Re: [Talk-ht] [activation hotosm] Hurricane Matthew response : Imagery/UAV coordination and support to local Haitian UAV capacities

[Dale Kunce]

Great job Fred, glad that you've managed to get things going on your own.
When if you have the imagery available please feel free to let us know and
we can make sure it's available on OpenAerialMap.

Stay safe and we wish you the best.



On Sat, Oct 8, 2016 at 8:34 PM, FredM <frmo...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Oups,
>
> Didn't read all your message. I have seen my name but I don't have time
> for that.
>
> Could you stop to use it as I have no time to cross check what you said.
> Fred can talk for Fred : )
>
> Just came back from an assessment in Jeremie for the gouvernment. We have
> huge work to do. So I am right now with the CNIGS and civil protection. In
> the field we flew drone for planification ( Warehouse, fix the port, damage
> assessment, etc...)
>
> Let me know if you have more UAV resource, For now we have 2 ebee and 3
> quadecopter. + Satellite imagery.
>
> Drone imagery is useful, we are using it in our NGO to promote technology
> and use it for local community. Not for the business or the storytelling.
>
> Only for operational purpose,... far away from the "Humanitarian circus"
> or something else.
>
> All the best FredM
>
> On 09/10/2016 01:58, Dale Kunce wrote:
>
> Hey everyone,
> First thanks to everyone that has contributed to the base mapping thus
> far. Many humanitarian groups including the Red Cross, Canadian Military,
> and the UN. I would much rather be mapping than responding to the copious
> emails but I wanted to try and end the discussion so we can get back to
> mapping.
>
> There has been a lot of chatter about UAV imagery the disaster imagery
> charter on the list serve with many accusations flying back and forth. I in
> my role as the activation lead for Hurricane Matthew, Vice-President of
> HOT, and GIS Lead for the American Red Cross see no value in trying to
> coordinate UAV use in Haiti. As has been said by Blake and Cristiano both
> of whom know more about this subject than I HOT should focus on the things
> we do best and leave coordination of UAV use and operation to UVAviators.
>
> Yes HOT in 2010 was different and HOT members took extraordinary measures
> to update the map for humanitarians. Due largely to those efforts and later
> ones in the Philippines, West Africa, Nepal, and many others HOT has become
> a trusted source of map data immediately following a disaster. Groups like
> the ones mentioned above have deeply integrated into their work and trust
> HOT and its amazing volunteers to provide the map data. One of the reasons
> HOT is trusted is because of our consistency. We provide a very reliable
> service without causing a lot of drama for the large humanitarian
> organizations. Throughout my time responding to disasters over the last few
> years consistency is paramount during large scale disasters.
>
> Comparing the airspace and subsequent use of UAVs in Tanzania, during
> normal "blue skies" times to the crowded chaotic airspace in Haiti shows a
> lack of basic understanding of the complexity of modern humanitarian
> operations. If I were empowered, which I'm not even close to being able to
> do, to simply put someone in a car or on a helicopter and send them into
> the affected areas I wouldn't. Given the reports from the area from UN, Red
> Cross, and other NGOs I would send food, water, and shelter kits.
>
> HOT has declined to support Fred's effort not because we don't think he
> has the capability but rather because HOT should and must be consistent in
> our work. In fact, Fred flies drones professionally and is currently under
> contract to fly a drone mission in Canaan for American Red Cross prior to
> Hurricane Matthew, hence he was in Haiti during the storm. We must
> understand our place during large scale international disasters, we must
> know the limits of our work, and we must not put the organization at risk
> without ample time to study and think about those risks.
>
> Lastly, as things have changed in disasters in the last few years the need
> to activate the imagery disaster charter has largely gone away. HOT has
> fantastic relationships with imagery providers and governments. All are
> often happy to provide imagery when they are capable of doing so.
>
> If you would like to contribute to the current mapping in Haiti please
> grab a task at http://tasks.hotosm.org
>
>
> On Sat, Oct 8, 2016 at 3:00 PM, Cristiano Giovando <
> cristiano.giova...@hotosm.org> wrote:
>
>> Nicolas,
>>
>> As you well know HOT's strength is in pre-event baseline mapping. We
>> have done some damage assessment and post-disaster mapping in the
>> past, but it's not easy and with controversial results.
>>
>> That being said, I'm sure other responding o

Re: [Talk-ht] [activation hotosm] Hurricane Matthew response : Imagery/UAV coordination and support to local Haitian UAV capacities

[Dale Kunce]

ing)
> > already undersized are rare, too rare.
> >
> > When HOT started its first field missions, we were exactly in the same
> > situation as Fred. Skilled individuals (less experimented though) with
> > adequate equipment, but with little operational resources. We did good.
> > Without the above mentioned forms of support, though our impact would
> have
> > been limited and the course of action for OMS in Haiti and in other
> > countries different.
> >
> > With the above in mind, it's weird to read that the president of HOT US
> Inc
> > stating that the only HOT US Inc support for Fred and this collective of
> > local Haitian dronists is only a well known list of UAV groups and a
> pointer
> > to UN OCHA. That's of no help.
> >
> > UAV are used in Tanzania by HOT US Inc in Development and Disaster Risk
> > Reduction (DRR) contexts [1]. Thanks to multi years of UAV activities in
> > Haiti, this country is no longer a terra incognita when it comes to
> drones
> > and there is no such thing as "UAV missions in disaster zones with
> > notoriously complicated airspaces" but an area where it's possible to
> > operate and make the difference we ought to the Haitians and to the
> Haitians
> > mappers/dronists who acquired part of their skills via HOT US Inc and OSM
> > folks.
> >
> > Do we have to understand that HOT US Inc will not help with simple
> > facilitation work with partner relief organizations working in Haiti,
> some
> > of those orgs (ARC, MSF etc) having representatives in the membership or
> the
> > Board ?
> >
> > Given where HOT US Inc comes from and ironically in Haiti, this would
> mean a
> > lot in terms of the losses of our operational/organizational ethos and
> would
> > raise questions about the reality of support/empowerment schemes to local
> > communities or possible conflict of interest between members/Board
> members
> > of HOT US Inc and other organizations.
> >
> > Best,
> > Nicolas
> >
> > [1] : https://hotosm.org/projects/tanzania
> >
> > On Sat, Oct 8, 2016 at 6:42 PM, Blake Girardot <bgirar...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >>
> >> Hi Nico,
> >>
> >> As you say, you and Fred have extensive experience in Hait and working
> >> with international partners in Haiti. Fred is actually on the ground
> >> in Haiti. You and he would be the best to coordinate him flying
> >> missions.
> >>
> >> This is not something HOT does, we do not coordinate or push for UAV
> >> missions in disaster zones with notoriously complicated airspaces. We
> >> rely on, and UAV missions need to be handled, by professionals, which
> >> you and Fred are, so I expect you should be able to handle making the
> >> proper arrangements and coordinations.
> >>
> >> I already suggested who to contact, UAviators, they have coordinated
> >> UAV missions in disaster zones in the past numerous times in
> >> conjunction with UN-OCHA. That is HOT's contact, I passed it on to you
> >> already.
> >>
> >> This is all HOT can do, except eagerly anticipate the imagery Fred's
> >> missions generate.
> >>
> >> Regards,
> >> Blake
> >>
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[OSM-legal-talk] Draft Guidelines

[Dale Kunce]

I'm not a frequent contributor to the legal talk list but I wanted to voice
my support for the current draft guidelines (
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Collective_Database_Guideline).

In my work for the Red Cross I work in many places around the world with
many different partners including, NGOs, governments, and corporations. The
proposed guidelines for me clear up some of the ambiguity that currently
exist with the license and allows for all of the above to work more closely
and extensively with OSM.

I look forward to seeing the adoption of the draft guidelines as they are
now and to the continued success of OSM.

Dale

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Re: [OSM-legal-talk] licenses suitable for import

[Dale Kunce]

Thanks Simon very helpful.

Sorry HDX is Humanitarian Data Exchange, is basically a clearinghouse of
datasets that organizations push up and maintain. There is lots of open geo
data available through the site, some of which would be appropriate for OSM
if they put an appropriate license on it. Many of the datasets are for
developing or highly at risk countries.
On Mar 20, 2016 10:35 AM, "Simon Poole" <si...@poole.ch> wrote:

>
>
> http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Import/GettingPermission#Letter_Template3
> would seem to be the most complete version of "how we really would like you
> to release data to us".
>
> It is not really a surprise that OSM requires a special case, it is simply
> due to OSM actually being a special case and essentially being the only
> project that digests open data and produces such with the downstream end
> user very often multiple tiers away. Most other data consumers (the goog
> and so on) typically have complete. or at least tight. control over the end
> product and wont have issues with complicated attribution requirements and
> other restrictive terms.
>
> Outside of specific terms for OSM, currently, IMHO, organisations wanting
> to release data on open licence terms don't really have many good options.
> They will typically gyrate to CC by licences even though 2.0 and 3.0 don't
> really work for data (which is likely why  commercial users are such a fan
> of them) and 4.0 is a total rewrite which raises some questions with
> respect to use as a data licence that remain unanswered.
>
> If it was up to me I would suggest
> http://opendatacommons.org/licenses/by/1.0/ , however it is not clear if
> the authors are still interested at all in any of the O* licences.
>
> Simon
>
> PS: what is HDX, besides being CHJ (cool humanitarian jargon)?
>
> Am 19.03.2016 um 18:52 schrieb Dale Kunce:
>
> I'm very curious about the cc-by compatibility. The Red Cross is doing a
> very large mapping project in West Africa, ground truthing a lot of the
> data created by remote mappers during ebola. As part of the project we want
> to release the data both in OSM and in a more complete form (not all data
> gathered is appropriate for osm) on HDX. Our original thinking was to
> double license the data, Cc-by 4.0 for HDX with an explicit license for
> OSM.
>
> What is the best route for organizations to do something like this. From
> this thread I can see the need for a checklist or at the very minimum a
> wiki page with sample language. Forgive me if this already exist I haven't
> found anything online yet.
>
> Dale
> On Mar 18, 2016 9:58 PM, "Simon Poole" <si...@poole.ch> wrote:
>
>> Diane
>>
>> Any comment from CC on the -other- issues that have been raised wrt CC by
>> 4.0 and ODbL compatibility and in general with the way it works for
>> databases?
>>
>> Simon
>>
>> Am 18.03.2016 um 17:19 schrieb Diane Peters:
>>
>> Just to be clear on the attribution removal requirement in CC's licenses,
>> Erik asserted:
>>
>> I wish people would stop releasing data with CC-by; "you have to
>> attribute us, but you have to remove that attribution when ever we
>> want you too" which is not present in ODbL so
>>
>> There is no such absolute obligation. In 4.0, the removal requirement
>> provides: "If requested by the Licensor, You must remove any of the
>> information required by Section 3(a)(1)(A)
>> <http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/4.0/legalcode#s3a1A> to the
>> extent reasonably practicable."  (Sec. 3a3
>> <http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0/legalcode>). And in 3.0,
>> it's "to the extent practicable", which from a CC perspective is
>> functionally the equivalent (Sec. 4a
>> <http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/3.0/legalcode>).
>>
>> Diane
>>
>> On Thu, Mar 17, 2016 at 3:47 PM, Tom Lee <t...@mapbox.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Tobias, the best option for ensuring the data is usable by OSM is an
>>> explicit statement of permission for the OpenStreetMap project to
>>> incorporate and use the data under the project's terms. This is generally
>>> considered preferable to a dataset that is ODbL-licensed without such a
>>> statement.
>>>
>>> However, I would encourage you to consider non-OSM users as well when
>>> choosing the license. ODbL is not widely used outside of OSM. A license
>>> like CC-BY 4.0 is more widely used and actively maintained. Choosing it
>>> would ensure compatibility with a large number of non-OSM datasets. And if
>>> paired with a permission stateme

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] licenses suitable for import

[Dale Kunce]

I'm very curious about the cc-by compatibility. The Red Cross is doing a
very large mapping project in West Africa, ground truthing a lot of the
data created by remote mappers during ebola. As part of the project we want
to release the data both in OSM and in a more complete form (not all data
gathered is appropriate for osm) on HDX. Our original thinking was to
double license the data, Cc-by 4.0 for HDX with an explicit license for
OSM.

What is the best route for organizations to do something like this. From
this thread I can see the need for a checklist or at the very minimum a
wiki page with sample language. Forgive me if this already exist I haven't
found anything online yet.

Dale
On Mar 18, 2016 9:58 PM, "Simon Poole"  wrote:

> Diane
>
> Any comment from CC on the -other- issues that have been raised wrt CC by
> 4.0 and ODbL compatibility and in general with the way it works for
> databases?
>
> Simon
>
> Am 18.03.2016 um 17:19 schrieb Diane Peters:
>
> Just to be clear on the attribution removal requirement in CC's licenses,
> Erik asserted:
>
> I wish people would stop releasing data with CC-by; "you have to
> attribute us, but you have to remove that attribution when ever we
> want you too" which is not present in ODbL so
>
> There is no such absolute obligation. In 4.0, the removal requirement
> provides: "If requested by the Licensor, You must remove any of the
> information required by Section 3(a)(1)(A)
>  to the
> extent reasonably practicable."  (Sec. 3a3
> ). And in 3.0, it's
> "to the extent practicable", which from a CC perspective is functionally
> the equivalent (Sec. 4a
> ).
>
> Diane
>
> On Thu, Mar 17, 2016 at 3:47 PM, Tom Lee  wrote:
>
>> Tobias, the best option for ensuring the data is usable by OSM is an
>> explicit statement of permission for the OpenStreetMap project to
>> incorporate and use the data under the project's terms. This is generally
>> considered preferable to a dataset that is ODbL-licensed without such a
>> statement.
>>
>> However, I would encourage you to consider non-OSM users as well when
>> choosing the license. ODbL is not widely used outside of OSM. A license
>> like CC-BY 4.0 is more widely used and actively maintained. Choosing it
>> would ensure compatibility with a large number of non-OSM datasets. And if
>> paired with a permission statement like what's described above, OSM could
>> still use the data without any license compatibility worries.
>>
>> Of course, if you can do without attribution, you might consider
>> something even more simple that disclaims liability but imposes no other
>> terms. If that's an option let me know and I can turn up some examples.
>>
>> On Thu, Mar 17, 2016 at 5:43 PM, Erik Johansson 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> On Sun, Mar 13, 2016 at 8:27 PM, Tobias Wendorff
>>>  wrote:
>>> > Dear list,
>>> >
>>> > could you please recommend me licenses for releasing data to ODbL?
>>> > From my point of view, compatible licenses are CC-license without
>>> > "SA" and "BY" and (only if possible) CC0 and PD or finally special
>>> > license, like the following one:
>>> >
>>> > Some crporations like "Deutsche Bahn" (the biggest rail corporation
>>> > in Germany) has released their data under CC BY 4.0 with a special text
>>> > for OpenStreetMap (roughly translated):
>>> >
>>> > "If the data of Deutsche Bahn is part of the OpenStreetMap database
>>> work,
>>> > a reference to the Deutsche Bahn AG in the list of contributors is
>>> enough.
>>> > Crediting DB at each use of the data by a licensee of the mentioned
>>> database
>>> > work is no longer necessary then. Indirect credits (with reference to
>>> the
>>> > publisher of this databse work, which refers to the DB) is sufficient."
>>> >
>>> > Actually, that's a kind of dual-licensing with a special license for
>>> OSM.
>>> > From my understanding, releasing data ODbL would be the worst thing,
>>> > since the "BY" attribution of the data donator isn't compatible, is it?
>>>
>>>
>>> I've choosen not to start on a couple of imports because of the CC-by
>>> issue, I've gotten ok from the owners but they want to be included on
>>> http://osm.org/contributors . Deutsche Bahn seems to be much more
>>> free, I interpret it as source=Deutsche Bahn seems to be enough.
>>>
>>>
>>> I wish people would stop releasing data with CC-by; "you have to
>>> attribute us, but you have to remove that attribution when ever we
>>> want you too" which is not present in ODbL so
>>>
>>>
>>>
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Re: [OSM-talk] Vandalism

[Dale Kunce]

Missing maps reached out to the user today with some guidance and
information that edits are live. We've also cleaned up the offending data.

Well continue to figure out if this was at an event and work to tighten up
any training gaps.

Thanks everyone.
On Feb 26, 2016 4:39 PM, "Mike Thompson"  wrote:

> DWG has been contacted.
>
> Changeset comment has been entered along the lines Andy suggested.
>
> I am not at a place at the moment where I can revert, if someone else
> whats to handle that would be great.
>
> Mike
>
> On Fri, Feb 26, 2016 at 2:27 PM, Andy Townsend  wrote:
>
>> On 26/02/2016 21:09, Mike Thompson wrote:
>>
>>
>> 
>> ...
>> appear to be of very poor quality, or out right vandalism.
>>
>> How should this be handled?
>>
>>
>> In this particular case, the changeset comments suggest it's a remote HOT
>> project ("#hotosm-project-1401#MissingMaps #CHAI Source=WorldView-2,
>> Digital Globe, NextView, 28 Sep 2013"), so I'd probably mention it on the
>> #hot IRC channel.  They may be able to pin down where the edits were made
>> from and work out who the instructors / supervisors of the "missing maps"
>> session was (if it was one of their "group edit" sessions).
>> Notwithstanding "Doodle the Dog", I would cut new mappers a bit of slack
>> though - I'm sure my first 27 edits were a bit rubbish too.
>>
>> On the more general point, especially where mappers don't seem to be
>> "getting the hang of things" after extended periods editing, I'd just try
>> and concentrate on what they need to do to get from where they are to where
>> everyone would like them to be.  This normally means things like "zoom in a
>> bit before editing" and "don't over-trace from aerial imagery if you're not
>> sure what it is".
>>
>> It is difficult though - we have a process for dealing with vandalism
>> (which is thankfully rare) that works well*, but as a project we deal less
>> well with edits that are well-meaning but "just a bit rubbish".  We are
>> getting better though - http://resultmaps.neis-one.org/osm-discussions
>> is full of people being polite, helpful and trying to make especially new
>> users better mappers.
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> Andy
>>
>>
>> * as Chris said, email the data working group (which is actually
>> d...@osmfoundation.org).
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Re: [Talk-us] evacuation_center=yes

[Dale Kunce]

Blake,
Almost all shelters have a primary other use. This might be something we
could work on with the Red Cross as they are required to manage the
evacuation/emergency shelters in the US.

Dale

On Thu, Feb 4, 2016 at 8:17 PM, Greg Troxel <g...@ir.bbn.com> wrote:

>
> Blake Girardot <bgirar...@gmail.com> writes:
>
> > What tags are we using in the US for disaster evacuation centers for
> > like hurricanes and things?
> >
> > http://taginfo.osm.org/keys/evacuation_center#map
> >
> > Shows none in the US but I know we have a lot.
> >
> > I am looking for the right tag to use but am just so shocked we don't
> > use that tag in the US, is there another one I should be looking at?
>
> I suspect that in the US, there are almost zero places where the primary
> purpose is as a shelter (what we call them in Mass.).   In my town, we
> have a school (that has a generator) designated as a shelter in the
> local emergency plan and it is activated/opened during extended power
> outages or other issues.
>
> There may be a difference between shelter (that you can go to if you
> want, to use the shower, have heat, charge your phone) and a place where
> you are told to go during mandatory evacuation orders, but I suspect
> it's the same thing.
>
> It does seem like evacuation_center=yes is a secondary key that can get
> added to describe an attribute, vs the object primarily being a
> shelter.  That seems sensible to me.
>
> Nits about spelling aside, it seems as good as any, assuming there is no
> real difference between evacuation_center and what we in the US call a
> (emergency type) shelter.
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Re: [Talk-us] Local OSM groups in the US

[Dale Kunce]

Martijn,
While Missing Maps is mostly internationally focused we always hoped to
support local OSM communities in the US. We would love to find more ways we
can support the mapping of vulnerable populations in the US. I'd like to
participate when you have your next call.


Great initiative and I look forward to helping out.

Dale


On Mon, Jan 11, 2016 at 8:08 PM, Martijn van Exel <mart...@openstreetmap.us>
wrote:

> Hi all,
> Eleanor, Clifford and I started talking about ways to make local OSM
> groups more successful, and / or how to support more of them. See our
> meeting notes here if you are interested:
> https://gist.github.com/mvexel/ffefcbf2c3012af51f16
>
> Currently we are compiling a list of local groups that are active. Here is
> what we have right now (after only a bit of searching Meetup by Clifford)
>
> Bay Area OSMToronto OSM EnthusiastsOSM ColoradoOSM SeattleOSM Salt Lake
> CityOSM Tampa BayPhoenix GeoOSM St. Louis Mid America MappersOSM Southern
> CaliforniaOSM OttawaMapping DCOSM Kansas CityOSM VancouverMapGive
> mapathon (DC)
> Do you know of any others, please let us know! With a link / contact
> person if possible.
>
> We will meet again in a couple of weeks. If you want to help think about
> and work on ways to support local OSM groups, let us know and we will make
> sure you get on the next call with us.
>
> Thanks,
> Martijn
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[Talk-ec] Huaquillos Ecuador Mapping

[Dale Kunce]

As part of the Missing Maps project the American Red Cross is starting to
trace the city of Huaquillos, Ecuador. As we get started with the tracing I
wanted to reach out to see if there are any OSM/HOT folks in Ecuador that
would be interested in either helping to remotely trace or are in
Huaquillos and would be interested in participating or potentially helping
to train local Red Cross volunteers how to field map in OSM.

This is the area that we will be mapping. We anticipate our mapping team to
be on the ground sometime in February.

http://tasks.hotosm.org/project/1367

Feel free to reach out to me or Drishtie directly.

Dale

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[OSM-talk] Bing Analyzer

[Dale Kunce]

I was doing some work tonight and I wanted to find the age of the Bing
tiles I was working with. I went to use the great Bing Analyzer TMS that
Ant did for his site a while back but it appears to be down.

Martijn's site still seems to be working but it doesn't have a proper TMS
from what I can tell.

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[OSM-talk] Portable OSM

[Dale Kunce]

The American Red Cross GIS Team is constantly looking for new ways to
improve our workflows and learn from the OpenStreetMap and FOSS4G
communities. I'm proud to say that 95% of the GIS analysis and map making
we do is done using FOSS4G tools.

A couple of years ago we realized that to be effective consumers of OSM
data and FOSS4G software we would need to start contributing and developing
ourselves.

In the aftermath of Typhoon Haiyan we identified
<http://americanredcross.github.io/OSM-Assessment/> a need for a better OSM
field data collection
<http://americanredcross.github.io/OSM-Assessment/#recommendations> tool
that could work with structured surveys. Eventually we created OpenMapKit
with initial seed money from USAID Global Development Lab. We have used
OpenMapKit <https://github.com/AmericanRedCross/openmapkit> in several Missing
Maps <http://missingmaps.org/> field mapping missions last year in Zimbabwe,
Rwanda, Tanzania, and Bangladesh
<http://osmstories.org/articles/Missing-Maps-community-mapping/>. During
these field trials we noticed that we were continually in need of an OMK
compatible server that did not rely on connected cloud services. Due to the
remoteness of our mapping locations we also needed to have better ways to
interact and edit OSM in a disconnected way for days and potentially weeks
at a time.

This fall, thanks to the Page Family Foundation, we began work on our
largest and most ambitious mapping project to date. Over the next year we
will map 15km on either side of the Guinea, Sierra Leone, and Liberia
borders <https://arcmaps.s3.amazonaws.com/share/west_africa_mapping-01.png>
(large
PNG). This area was well mapped extensively by remote mappers during the
Ebola crisis but lacks ground truthed data such as identifying hospitals,
schools, churches, and other POIs. As part of this project we will
establish a mapping hub in Guéckédou and develop the software and hardware
tools that we need.

[image: mapping hub]

A couple weeks ago I joined the awesome folks from SpatialDev
<http://spatialdev.com/> and Stamen <http://stamen.com/> in Seattle for a
week of brainstorming and hacking. During the week we outlined and
architected Portable OSM (POSM) <https://github.com/AmericanRedCross/posm>.
As part of the project we are helping make several improvements to Field
Papers <https://github.com/fieldpapers/fieldpapers/labels/POSM> and
OpenMapKit
<https://github.com/AmericanRedCross/OpenMapKitAndroid/labels/POSM> as well
as introducing a new lightweight OMK Server
<https://github.com/AmericanRedCross/OpenMapKitServer> based on SimpleODK
<https://github.com/digidem/simple-odk>. POSM will hopefully be a very
affordable (sub $300) solution to many problems for us including offline
OSM API, OMK Server, and Offline Field Papers.

The project is being developed in the open on github and we are open to
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[Talk-us] Portable OSM

[Dale Kunce]

The American Red Cross GIS Team is constantly looking for new ways to
improve our workflows and learn from the OpenStreetMap and FOSS4G
communities. I'm proud to say that 95% of the GIS analysis and map making
we do is done using FOSS4G tools.

A couple of years ago we realized that to be effective consumers of OSM
data and FOSS4G software we would need to start contributing and developing
ourselves.

In the aftermath of Typhoon Haiyan we identified
<http://americanredcross.github.io/OSM-Assessment/> a need for a better OSM
field data collection
<http://americanredcross.github.io/OSM-Assessment/#recommendations> tool
that could work with structured surveys. Eventually we created OpenMapKit
with initial seed money from USAID Global Development Lab. We have used
OpenMapKit <https://github.com/AmericanRedCross/openmapkit> in several Missing
Maps <http://missingmaps.org/> field mapping missions last year in Zimbabwe,
Rwanda, Tanzania, and Bangladesh
<http://osmstories.org/articles/Missing-Maps-community-mapping/>. During
these field trials we noticed that we were continually in need of an OMK
compatible server that did not rely on connected cloud services. Due to the
remoteness of our mapping locations we also needed to have better ways to
interact and edit OSM in a disconnected way for days and potentially weeks
at a time.

This fall, thanks to the Page Family Foundation, we began work on our
largest and most ambitious mapping project to date. Over the next year we
will map 15km on either side of the Guinea, Sierra Leone, and Liberia
borders <https://arcmaps.s3.amazonaws.com/share/west_africa_mapping-01.png>
(large
PNG). This area was well mapped extensively by remote mappers during the
Ebola crisis but lacks ground truthed data such as identifying hospitals,
schools, churches, and other POIs. As part of this project we will
establish a mapping hub in Guéckédou and develop the software and hardware
tools that we need.

[image: mapping hub]

A couple weeks ago I joined the awesome folks from SpatialDev
<http://spatialdev.com/> and Stamen <http://stamen.com/> in Seattle for a
week of brainstorming and hacking. During the week we outlined and
architected Portable OSM (POSM) <https://github.com/AmericanRedCross/posm>.
As part of the project we are helping make several improvements to Field
Papers <https://github.com/fieldpapers/fieldpapers/labels/POSM> and
OpenMapKit
<https://github.com/AmericanRedCross/OpenMapKitAndroid/labels/POSM> as well
as introducing a new lightweight OMK Server
<https://github.com/AmericanRedCross/OpenMapKitServer> based on SimpleODK
<https://github.com/digidem/simple-odk>. POSM will hopefully be a very
affordable (sub $300) solution to many problems for us including offline
OSM API, OMK Server, and Offline Field Papers.

The project is being developed in the open on github and we are open to
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Re: [talk-ph] Mapbox welcomes Maning Sambale!

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Congrats maning.

On Fri, Oct 2, 2015, 1:05 PM Eugene Alvin Villar  wrote:

> Now the news is official: https://www.mapbox.com/blog/welcome-maning/
>
> Congratulations! :-)
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[Talk-us] Missing Maps Field Mapping Opportunity

[Dale Kunce]

American Red Cross and Missing Maps need your help.

Do to some staff deployments to support the global Red Cross in Vanuatu,
American Red Cross is in urgent need of a volunteer to help with training
and field mapping in Tanzania http://tasks.hotosm.org/project/955. We
already have all of the materials and great lead trainer from American Red
Cross GIS team but we need a second trainer.

What We Need:
 - Two week commitment starting April 10
 - Experience with OpenStreetMap
 - Experience with JOSM and/or iD
 - Experience with Field Papers
 - Previous field experience within a humanitarian context, especially
Africa, a plus

What You Will Do:
Train Tanzanian Red Cross staff and volunteers on
 - OSM data model
 - Using Field Papers to collect OSM data
 - Entering Data in JOSM and/or iD
 - Deploy and test OpenMapKit for use throughout the mapping
 - Help build a local OSM community

Why You Should Do It:
 - Learn how to use OpenMapKit
 - Gain field mapping experience in a humanitarian context
 - Help out Missing Maps and support vulnerable people
 - ARC will pay for all field expenses and travel within our expense rules

Apply:
Send and email to me, dale.ku...@redcross.org, with your CV/Resume and
answer the following questions.
- Why you want to volunteer?
- Description of your OSM/HOT experience
- Statement about your ability to obtain a visa for Tanzania.

Brief Program Description:
The American Red Cross and Tanzanian Red Cross are beginning long term
disaster risk reduction programming in rural Ushirombo, Tanzania. The Red
Cross hopes to capture GIS data using OSM and needs more detailed basemap
data (roads, land features, rivers) to assist in the project design phase.
The maps produced will be used to create more efficient and grounded
programs to reduce the risk or disease and environmental disaster from
affecting the communities.

Thanks
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Re: [talk-ph] OSM Notes opened for the Yolanda / Haiyan Typhoon and not yet resolved

[Dale Kunce]

I'd like the damage tagging scheme to be a topic of discussion at the HOT
summit. @pierre do you think you could lead/propose a session.

On Thu, Feb 26, 2015 at 8:14 PM Pierre Béland pierz...@yahoo.fr wrote:

 Talking of archiving the Yolanda info, while working for the Hagupit
 typhoon,

 I made propositions on the HOT Discussion list but only few comments.
 See
 http://gis.19327.n5.nabble.com/Damage-evaluation-tagging-schema-td5831094.html

 Plus still working on the Ebola activation and missed time assuring that
 this moves on.

 Pierre
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 and not yet resolved

 I actually reached out to ChrisEspectato (via an OSM account message) on
 21 February to ask about the purpose of the notes. If I haven't heard back
 after some time I was planning on going through and closing the notes. With
 the anonymous notes, reaching out isn't possible. I think it's good to
 close some of the notes in the manner you mention.

 There are certainly some notes leftover from Yolanda that could be
 resolved (because they are no longer relevant or do not contain enough
 detail). On a side note, there are also many tags related to the Yolanda
 response that could be 'archived' or removed. Unfortunately this sort of
 cleanup work tends to be a lot less interesting than adding new details and
 features to the map.

 All the best,
 Dan

 On Fri, Feb 27, 2015 at 7:17 AM, Pierre Béland pierz...@yahoo.fr wrote:



 There is a discussion today on the general talk list about anonymous OSM
 notes.

 The Yolanda / Haiyan Activation is an example where such info could have
 helped if more infos provided and the possibility to interact with the
 person adding such note. To revise the OSM Notes and enhance the map, we
 can select this layer from openstreetmap.org

 Today, after more then a year, this info seems useless and I revises and
 resolves/closed some of these notes adding this comment:

 *Incomplete infos from this note or comments not related to mapping
 objects . More then a year later, no more infos added. I am closing this
 note.*

 I also see notes Created by ChrisEspectato
 http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/ChrisEspectato with comments that
 seem to refer to an event or trip simply.
 #28 1-27-14 834am
  See http://www.openstreetmap.org/note/157873
 http://www.openstreetmap.org/note/157873

 regard

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Re: [talk-ph] Mappy Hour Yolanda Anniversary (Nov 7?)

[Dale Kunce]

Super excited that you guys are doing the Mappy Hour for Yolanda. Robert
and I are both really pumped and excited that we will get to work with such
a strong OSM community for missing maps in the Philippines. I added the
Mappy Hour as a launch event for Missing Maps. http://www.missingmaps.org



On Mon, Nov 3, 2014 at 10:29 PM, maning sambale emmanuel.samb...@gmail.com
wrote:

 OK let's do this!
 http://www.eventbrite.com/e/osm-ph-mappy-hour-tickets-14128774545
 Get your tickets here!

 On Tue, Nov 4, 2014 at 9:06 AM, Nick Brown n...@nickbrown.ca wrote:
  I'm at event scheduled to run until 5:30pm on Friday, but would love to
 join
  afterwards! -Nick
 
  On Tue, Nov 4, 2014 at 6:12 AM, maning sambale 
 emmanuel.samb...@gmail.com
  wrote:
 
  Hi,
 
  Anyone up for a mappy hour for Yolanda's 1 year anniv?  I can host it
  (as usual) in my office on Friday evening (Nov 7).  Bring something to
  share (food and enthusiasm) :).  We can maybe just share stories or
  look at ways to improve current data over Yolanda affected areas.
 
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Re: [talk-ph] Project NOAH encouraging mapping through OSM

[Dale Kunce]

Maning, very cool.

How does WebSafe compare to the InaSafe work being done by HOT in Indonesia?
Small thing but the map they are showing doesn't include a attributation to
OSM.

Looking forward to seeing more of these projects over time.

Dale



On Tue, Jun 24, 2014 at 10:47 AM, Pierre Béland pierz...@yahoo.fr wrote:


 I am happy to see that the awesome OpenstreetMap community is recognized
 by Noah. You should communicate on this on the HOT discussion list to give
 examples of usefulness of Activations like the Haiyan / Yolanda Activation.

 And let's hope they will also use the OSM basemap on the front page of
 their site.

 Is there any functional link to Websafe impact assessment tool ?

 regard

 Pierre

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 *Objet :* Re: [talk-ph] Project NOAH encouraging mapping through OSM

 And here's a YouTube video from Project NOAH on why they want people,
 especially LGUs, to map buildings in OSM:
 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ywnUfY2uerY

 Very nice! :-)


 On Tue, Jun 24, 2014 at 5:50 PM, maning sambale 
 emmanuel.samb...@gmail.com wrote:

 Just saw this blog article from Project NOAH

 http://blog.noah.dost.gov.ph/2014/06/24/how-to-map-using-open-street-map-osm/

 Even before the Project NOAH website was launched years ago, I have
 been talking to Dr. Mahar Lagmay on possible collaborations.  Slowly
 they are now adopting OSM as the resource for updated basemap to
 complement the hazard mapping they are doing.

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Re: [OSM-talk] Administrative boundaries export

[Dale Kunce]

The American Red Cross is dealing with this issue right now.

We've built a database using GADM, GAUL, and Natural Earth. We initially
wanted to rely heavily on OSM but because the relation breaks said it
proved problematic. We've parked the use of OSM in our boundary dataset so
that we can move forward with our implementation. We would love to help
build out a plausible solution if one can be developed.

The basic features of our current in production solution:

   - Name based lookup for anything in GADM, GAUL, Natural Earth, and
   GeoNames.
   - Ability to get the admin stack, all admin boundaries above the
   currently selected feature, geoname, or WKT.
   - Ability to look at all of the datasets through time to use GADM.
   - Ability to get any feature from any of the datasets in geoJSON format.


Our roadmap includes an API link to Nominatim and using the OSM polygon
boundaries to then parse against our internal system to get the admin
stack names and then going back to Nominatim to get the OSM geometry for
the given features. Not the most elegant solution but I think it should
work for most of our work where we want to use OSM admin boundaries.

The code for our project is available on our github page.
https://github.com/AmericanRedCross/GeoWebServices and
https://github.com/AmericanRedCross/GeoDB.




On Wed, Oct 2, 2013 at 4:01 PM, Eugene Alvin Villar sea...@gmail.comwrote:

 On Thu, Oct 3, 2013 at 3:58 AM, Frederik Ramm frede...@remote.org wrote:

 What we would really need though, is something much bigger: A separate
 database of admin hierarchies, where people could - in a crowdsourced
 manner - record things like:

 There is an adminlevel 2 entities called Germany
 It is divided into 16 exclusive adminlevel 4 entities with the
 following names: ...
 These 16 entities cover the area of Germany completely (no holes or sea
 areas that would be outside of one of the entities)
 The adminlevel 4 entity named 'Brandenburg' is divided in X adminlevel
 6 entities...

 and so on. A tree of arbitrary size where people can add and edit at will.


 This seems exactly like the kind of data I expect Wikidata (a Wikimedia
 Foundation project, spearheaded by Wikimedia Deutschland) to encode.


 Now you will say but this tree could be generated from OpenStreetMap,
 and I grant that one could attempt to build such a tree but it will
 always be faulty and reflect the current brokenness of geometries in
 OSM. One could *start* with an OSM-generated tree, but after that, the
 tree must be kept separate. People should be able to add stuff to the
 tree even when it is not in OpenStreetMap - there should be an
 adminlevel 8 boundary called so-and-so. A regularly-running process

 would then compare the tree to OpenStreetMap, and generate error reports
 that can be presented visually: [...]


 I would expect the tree to be much more stable than the
 data in OSM. Most of all, the tree could be worked on independently,
 even by people unfamiliar with OSM. Of course the tree could link to OSM
 objects but these links would regularly be checked and perhaps even
 changed by the automated comparison system.


 If this tree database will only be compared to OSM then it should be OK to
 start it as a derivative of the OSM database (inheriting the ODbL license).
 However, we lose the ability to compare this with other similar databases
 like the Global Administrative Areas database (http://www.gadm.org/) as
 another form of QA due to the license incompatibility.

 I think it would be better if the tree were started in Wikidata (which is
 CC0-licensed) or as a separate project released to the public domain or
 CC0- or PDDL-licensed.

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