Re: [talk-au] Sydney cycle routes

[Ben Kelley]

Hi.

On Tue, Mar 18, 2008 at 9:17 AM, Ian Sergeant [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 As I mentioned before to Franc, a blue sign does not a cycle route make.


True.

I don't believe there has ever been a RTA, or Sydney wide numbering system
 for cycle routes.


I did some digging today and came up with a couple of things.

Firstly, as you point out, there are some maps on the RTA web site, although
their usefulness varies.

Secondly, it seems that Sydney City council is doing something about cycle
routes. I found this link:

http://www.cityofsydney.nsw.gov.au/AboutSydney/documents/ParkingAndTransport/Cycling/CycleStrategyAndActionPlan2007-2017.pdf

If you read through that they do list some routes as such, with numbers.

Thirdly, it seems that the NSW RTA do in fact have state wide cycle routes.
I found a document at work today that lists some of them. Sadly I did not
keep the URL!

I propose that where local councils list route numbers on signage (or in
some publication that people might have seen) that these be listed as
lcn=yes and lcn_ref=*routeID*. e.g. The signs that Marrickville Council
list, or the ones that Sydney City propose.

For any state-wide routes (e.g. the ones the RTA propose) that these be
listed as rcn=yes and rcn_ref=*routeID*.

(Taking some lead from http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/index.php/Cycle_routes)


 It would, but we need to be careful, and have objective standards.  OSM
 cannot be bikely.com.  On bikely.com just about every road in Sydney forms
 part of somebody's cycle route.


This is true, and yet where cycle information is available in OSM it tends
to be very good, and because it is easy to edit, more up-to-date. In areas
where the International Cycle Map has good detail (not Australia ... yet) it
is very useful. e.g. Amsterdam
http://www.gravitystorm.co.uk/osm/?zoom=11lat=6868967.36892lon=545511.20427layers=B00

- Ben.
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Re: [talk-au] Sydney cycle routes

[Stephen Hope]

In the Brisbane Metro area, Pine Rivers shire (soon to be part of
Moreton Bay) has maps available of bike routes.  I looked at one to
see how many there would be to map in the region.  From what I can
tell, they've marked every wide footpath on the map, as well as shared
walkways through parks etc, and actual bike lanes.  I'm wondering what
tagging we should use for these footpaths.

They're not actually bike lanes, but there are signs beside the
footpath that show both a bike and a pedestrian, and the paths are
wider than most.  It is legal for a bike to use any footpath in QLD,
so it's not like you can't ride anywhere else, but these are
recommended routes.  They tend to go between things like a Tafe and a
train station, shopping centres, etc.

Stephen

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