Re: [talk-au] NearMap PhotoMap imagery for OSM

2009-11-11 Thread John Smith
2009/11/12 Alex Kwiatkowski :
> The day we flew Sydney there was a no fly zone in the CBD. Something to do
> with an important politician. We're aiming to have a complete Sydney survey
> up soon but I can't give you a firm ETA.

That's one reason I don't live in Sydney any more, when ever there is
a major event half the city gets shut down, thankfully I missed out on
APEC I bet that was a major pain in the butt.

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Re: [talk-au] NearMap PhotoMap imagery for OSM

2009-11-11 Thread John Smith
2009/11/12 Alex Kwiatkowski :
> I hope that helps some of you guys. I'm really excited that the OSM
> community has got on board and already given us heaps of great feedback that
> we're busily trying to schedule into our release plans :)

Any idea when the rest of Sydney will be flown or uploaded?

Don't take this as a complaint, because what you guys have done is
amazing, but it's a tad strange that the imagery doesn't cover the
main CBD.

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Re: [talk-au] NearMap PhotoMap imagery for OSM

2009-11-11 Thread Alex Kwiatkowski

Hi guys,

My names Alex and I work at Nearmap. I'm responsible for the Javascript
browser application so I can only answer a sub set of all the questions I
see here on the mailing list. I'll have to pass some of the salesy type ones
onto someone else.

In the areas we fly, we normally have images up to zoom level 21 or 22. In
some very rare areas we do return images at levels higher than this (e.g.
Perth CBD). The browser application @ www.nearmap.com allows you to zoom
into level 24 on all areas. It does this by scaling the images up from a
lower level on the client side. So if you can zoom into level 24 it doesn't
necessarily mean you will be able to request images from level 24 in your
plugins.

I hope that helps some of you guys. I'm really excited that the OSM
community has got on board and already given us heaps of great feedback that
we're busily trying to schedule into our release plans :)



David Dean wrote:
> 
> This pseudo-wms (or whatever we are calling it) doesn't appear to zoom in
> as far as the NearMap data allows. For example, this link:
> 
> http://map-data.bigtincan.com/wms/nearmap.php?bbox=153.0113011,-27.4445217,153.0115373,-27.4443121&srs=EPSG:4326&width=500&height=500
> 
> returns the right region, but is not 500*500 pixels in width. It seems
> that the zoom level is not getting any closer than z18, while I think
> NearMap can support a fair way past that.
> 
> - David
> 
> 
> 
> Bugzilla from deltafoxtrot...@gmail.com wrote:
>> 
>> Actually I added the username/password as part of the URL for the
>> images and it now works in JOSM :)
>> 
>> Add a new WMS layer etc, and put the URL as:
>> 
>> html:http://map-data.bigtincan.com/wms/nearmap.php?
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Re: [talk-au] NearMap PhotoMap imagery for OSM

2009-11-11 Thread Peter Ross
On Thu, Nov 12, 2009 at 1:07 PM, John Smith  wrote:
> 2009/11/12 Peter Ross :
>> It's great, but I at least in this location it's out by about 3-5m.
>
> Considering that's bordering on GPS accuracy it's kind of hard to tell
> the actual accuracy that way.
>
Sure if you only have one GPS track for that location, however I have
multiple gps tracks taken on different days over about 2 months, so
I'm assuming that using the mid point of all of those traces should be
where the track is.  If you use josm and download the gps traces for
the region I'm talking about you should be able to see what I mean.


> Brendan did some comparisons with the property boundaries in QLD and
> came up with an accuracy of 1-4m.
>
Ben Last from nearmap got in contact with me after I posted the above
on the nearmap wikipage and I quote:

"We'd like to find out what sort of errors you're seeing.  The
Melbourne survey wasn't flown with precision GPS due to a fault, but
it shoudl still be within 5m or  so absolute."

After that I did some more accurate measuring and the underlying
imagery needed to be moved 6m east and 3m south  and then it all lined
up extermely well.

>> However the actual imagery is fan-bloody-tastic!
>
> Considering other imagery sources are out 20+ m in places so is the accuracy 
> :)
>
It's the problem of having such good imagery, when things are out it's
much more noticeable.

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Re: [talk-au] NearMap PhotoMap imagery for OSM

2009-11-11 Thread John Smith
2009/11/12 Peter Ross :
> It's great, but I at least in this location it's out by about 3-5m.

Considering that's bordering on GPS accuracy it's kind of hard to tell
the actual accuracy that way.

Brendan did some comparisons with the property boundaries in QLD and
came up with an accuracy of 1-4m.

> However the actual imagery is fan-bloody-tastic!

Considering other imagery sources are out 20+ m in places so is the accuracy :)

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Re: [talk-au] Help with a couple of things

2009-11-11 Thread Ross Scanlon
> > Looks correct to me, although I would make the relations only  
> > applicable for the section from the last intersection to the  
> > intersection where the restriction occurs.
> I can't seem to find out where I can do this in the JOSM interface?  
> All the selection options just give me the entire Pacific Highway (37  
> nodes) selection or the entire Military Road selection.

Select the node where you want to split the way, if the node is on more than 
one way (ie intersection) then you have to select the way as well.

Then Tools-->Split Way or hit P

Then remove the relation from the section where it's not required.

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Re: [talk-au] Help with a couple of things

2009-11-11 Thread Jonathan Trott
On 11/11/2009, at 18:01, Ross Scanlon wrote:

>> The two turns that I have to pass almost every day are the following:
>> Point 31395304 (Holt Avenue and Military Road in Cremorne, NSW)  
>> should
>> be no right turn both directions here.
>> Point 13877590 (Christie Street and Pacific Highway in St Leonards.
>> NSW) should be no right turn both directions here also.
>
> Looks correct to me, although I would make the relations only  
> applicable for the section from the last intersection to the  
> intersection where the restriction occurs.
I can't seem to find out where I can do this in the JOSM interface?  
All the selection options just give me the entire Pacific Highway (37  
nodes) selection or the entire Military Road selection.

>> Another problem I just recently discovered is Robsons Rd, Keiraville,
>> NSW is duplicated. One with 17 nodes and one with 4. What's the best
>> way to clean this up as there are roads that are joined to one and  
>> not
>> the other.
>> I'm hoping there is an easy way to fix this?
>
> Delete the least appropriate way and reconnect the roads.  Sorry I  
> don't know of any easy fix.
OK, I think I've fixed all this, and other errors that cropped up in  
the validator at the time.
Thanks,
JT

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Re: [talk-au] NearMap PhotoMap imagery for OSM

2009-11-11 Thread Peter Ross
On Wed, Nov 11, 2009 at 5:06 PM, John Smith  wrote:
> NearMap now has Melbourne imagery online...
>
> http://www.nearmap.com/?ll=-37.793508,145.04837&z=11&t=h
>
I've checked out the imagery in an area [1] where I've uploaded
multiple GPS traces over multiple days with the Nearmap imagery.

It's great, but I at least in this location it's out by about 3-5m.

http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=-37.801988&lon=145.014908&zoom=18&layers=B000FTF

However the actual imagery is fan-bloody-tastic!

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Re: [talk-au] Help with a couple of things

2009-11-11 Thread Ross Scanlon
On Thu, 12 Nov 2009 07:16:01 +1100
Sam Couter  wrote:

> Ross Scanlon  wrote:
> > a fence and medium strip dividing the two.
> 
> That's median, meaning in the middle. Not medium, which means average.
> 
> Pet peeve.
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Yeah, should not do things late at night. 

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Re: [talk-au] Help with a couple of things

2009-11-11 Thread Sam Couter
Ross Scanlon  wrote:
> a fence and medium strip dividing the two.

That's median, meaning in the middle. Not medium, which means average.

Pet peeve.
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Re: [talk-au] New to mapping in Perth, WA

2009-11-11 Thread Arie Paap
Thank you everyone for your comments and advice.

I'll carry on for a while, I'm sure I'll have more questions as I go along.

Arie.

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