Re: [talk-au] Tram stops and routes for Melbourne
On Fri, 19 Feb 2010, John Smith wrote: On 19 February 2010 10:10, Roy Wallace waldo000...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Feb 19, 2010 at 9:22 AM, Andy Botting a...@andybotting.com wrote: The Director would however approve the release of the data provided the usual terms of our licence agreement were in place. They clearly just don't get it hey... Well they are aware of cc-by, so that's a good first start, now to get them to look at using cc-by for a license on the data is the next step... They are bureaucrats, and can't be seen to be falling out of line or making a new decision. I confess to some understanding of the processes and suggest a snail mail to the appropriate Minister, asking him / her to authorise the release under the cc-by licence. Include the copy of the [refusal] sorry, reply received already ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
Re: [talk-au] answers to difficult questions
On Fri, 19 Feb 2010, David Murn wrote: Youve got a GPS, all you need is a compass, pen/paper and a little bit of high-school maths. My high school maths is gone many years ago But the suggestion is quite correct. ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
Re: [talk-au] answers to difficult questions
On 19 February 2010 18:38, Liz ed...@billiau.net wrote: My high school maths is gone many years ago But the suggestion is quite correct. Laser range finder wouldn't go astray either :) ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
Re: [talk-au] answers to difficult questions
On 20 February 2010 00:05, Nick Hocking nick.hock...@gmail.com wrote: 1) compass,gps, high school maths. 2) theodalite, professional gps and a real live surveyor. 4) laser rangefinder + gps These are all the same method, just slightly different tools... and #4 still needs a direction/compass... 3) photographic techniques 5) audio tracking ??? How would either of these methods help? ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
Re: [talk-au] answers to difficult questions
David Murn wrote: Ive laid out powerlines across most of the ACT and Queanbeyan, so feel free to do the line from the wind farm to the Queanbeyan sub-station. As well as the ways (power=line), shouldn't we be tagging the individual nodes (pylons) also (power=tower), as is done here: http://www.osm.org/?lat=-35.2332200109959lon=149.039309620857zoom=17layers=B000FTF John ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
Re: [talk-au] local chapter stuff
On Sat, 20 Feb 2010, John Smith wrote: For those interested, here's the current draft released this evening: http://map-data.bigtincan.com/data/OSM_Local_Chapters_Draft_v0_3.pdf My concerns about this still haven't been addressed and it doesn't look like it will happen so I won't be at this stage pursuing any form of a local chapter in Australia, there is still a need for a local entity so I'll focus my efforts on getting that finalised once I tweak things based on some suggestions Brendon made a while back. I wrote a note about this draft, decided it could be libellous and haven't posted it publically. I'll merely say that if they are the terms, I wouldn't be able to join the local chapter. I have let my membership of OSMF lapse deliberately and removed that logo from my wiki page already. ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
Re: [talk-au] answers to difficult questions
On Sat, 2010-02-20 at 05:16 +1100, John Henderson wrote: David Murn wrote: Ive laid out powerlines across most of the ACT and Queanbeyan, so feel free to do the line from the wind farm to the Queanbeyan sub-station. As well as the ways (power=line), shouldn't we be tagging the individual nodes (pylons) also (power=tower), as is done here: I toyed with that idea when I first started tracing them, but theres two things to consider. Main lines are generally tagged as power=line whereas suburban lines are tagged as power=minor_line. Main lines generally use towers and cross large areas of land, where minor lines often cross through areas already full of street data. Ive been tagging all nodes as power=tower where its evident from nearmap that there is a large metal tower, however rendered tiles only show the power=tower nodes, not the power=pylon nodes. I figured I was best off doing the line tracing then if renderers support it at a later date, its not too difficult to change the node to power=pylon. When I create the ways, I go from pylon to pylon, with no in-between nodes, so can depend on every node that isnt labelled as power=tower being a pylon. I havent seen many power lines drawn for Australia, but since they are relatively easy to trace on nearmap and can be useful when shown on maps at high zoom levels, I figured Id trace them in. Ive also traced a large number of powerlines from the Shepparton Nearmap, using the same method described above. David ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
Re: [talk-au] answers to difficult questions
Yes - If they're red and just that exact distance from the road then I quess it should be a postbox. I can't work out the telephone boxes in Queanbeyan from the imagery. so I'm still surveying them. some/lots of the telephone box's in Sydney are very distinctive ;-) Nick -- Franc ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
Re: [talk-au] answers to difficult questions
David Murn wrote: Ive been tagging all nodes as power=tower where its evident from nearmap that there is a large metal tower, however rendered tiles only show the power=tower nodes, not the power=pylon nodes. Yes, I see them rendering now. I'd picked an unfortunately small sample earlier. I havent seen many power lines drawn for Australia, but since they are relatively easy to trace on nearmap and can be useful when shown on maps at high zoom levels, I figured Id trace them in. Ive also traced a large number of powerlines from the Shepparton Nearmap, using the same method described above. It's certainly difficult to map them without nearmap! John H ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
