Re: [talk-au] Proposal to update weather monitoring_stations using BoM data.

2010-06-19 Thread John Smith
On 20 June 2010 14:11, {Tim}  wrote:
> On 06/20/2010 11:40 AM, John Smith wrote:
>> If you've made the changes you were going to make, then go for it,
>> anyone that was going to comment would have by now.
>
> Your timing uncanny. I just finished typing wiki entry:
>
> http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Australian_Bureau_Of_Meteorology/Import
>

I wouldn't have bothered waiting till Monday, unless of course you
don't have time to do it till then that is...

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Re: [talk-au] Australian Timezones

2010-06-19 Thread John Smith
On 20 June 2010 16:11, rran...@ihug.com.au  wrote:
> From the linux timezone files

Which file is that? Because that isn't in zone.tab...

Also anyone have any details on the Ashmore and Cartier Islands
timezone? Seems for the most part to be identical to WA...

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Re: [talk-au] Australian Timezones

2010-06-19 Thread rran...@ihug.com.au

>From the linux timezone files


# From Paul Eggert (1996-11-22):
# IATA SSIM (1993-02/1994-09) say that the Holiday Islands (Hayman, Lindeman,
# Hamilton) observed DST for two years after the rest of Queensland stopped.
# Hamilton is the largest, but there is also a Hamilton in Victoria,
# so use Lindeman.

So currently they are the same as Queensland, but were different 1992-1994.

Roy Rankin 
 

On Sun Jun 20  9:52 , John Smith  sent:

Does anyone know why Linderman Island and 2 other islands close to the

northern Qld coast get their own time zone?



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Re: [talk-au] Australian Timezones

2010-06-19 Thread John Henderson
On 20/06/10 11:52, John Smith wrote:
> Does anyone know why Linderman Island and 2 other islands close to the
> northern Qld coast get their own time zone?

Are you sure that's not just on April 1st?

John H

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[talk-au] Coral Sea Islands Territory and Queensland

2010-06-19 Thread John Smith
I came across a dataset by ga.gov.au that has among other things a
boundary shape file for the Coral Sea Islands Territory (CSIT), which
surprisingly enough lined up perfectly with the existing Solomon
Islands border, the boundary data is either cc-by or OSDM which is a
cc-by type/compatible license.

I also merged the Australian maritime border with this shape file and
fudged the PNG border a little, however now there is a bit of a gap
between the CSIT and the boundary for Qld and I'm not sure if it's
only federal territory or state territory...

Qld: http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/relation/80373
CSIT: http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/relation/968374
Aust: http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/relation/80500
PNG: http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/relation/307866

Oh and if anyone feels up to the research, PNG only has half a border...

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[talk-au] Australian Timezones

2010-06-19 Thread John Smith
Does anyone know why Linderman Island and 2 other islands close to the
northern Qld coast get their own time zone?

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Re: [talk-au] Generating good looking PDF/SVG maps?

2010-06-19 Thread Ben Kelley
Hi.

The Mapnik -> SVG -> Inkscape route is probably good for where the map needs
manual editing.

PNG isn't really going to work for any large sized map though.

I will report back if I get anywhere.

 - Ben.

On 19 June 2010 14:50, Sam Vekemans  wrote:

> And don't forget the team @ KDE Marble Desktop, has the ability to
> save PNG at any map view. The linux version also uses the CycleMap :-)
>
> On 6/18/10, Sam Vekemans  wrote:
> > Its on my list to set up an OpenOfficeDraw template where all you need
> > todo is to copy the pdf from walking-papers.org and paste it into the
> > document, and move it to the bottom layer. Then edit the title and the
> > legend and the POI list to suit the area.
> >
> > I know that doesnt help you today, but there are people working on it :)
> >
> > Every printed map, needs to have some manual creative work done on it.
> >
> > The technology from Open Orienteeringmap is close, but it doesnt
> > support mapnik. And hikebikemap.de has a great rendering, but isnt on
> > walking-papers.org, nor OpenOrienteeringmap
> >
> > Its also on maposmatic's list to get a proper legend, as well as
> > maperitive.
> >
> > inkscape allows for svg opening & saving it as a Oo file, to break
> > apart and easily manipulate the map.
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Sam
> >
>
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[talk-au] Tasmania imagery

2010-06-19 Thread John Smith
Craig pointed to me to this site:

http://www.thelist.tas.gov.au/listmap/listmap.jsp?cookieteststate=check&llx=13.0&lly=5116000.0&urx=712000.0&ury=5662000.0&layers=268

Which was in relation to better DEM information, but they also have
half decent aerial imagery for most of the state, however the
copyright license says for non-commercial use only and I have no idea
if you use the imagery personally to derive vector information if that
could then be uploaded to OSM.

I thought I'd point this site out if most people weren't aware of it,
but I'll leave that up to those interested in Tasmania to figure it
out the fine print.

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Re: [talk-au] ABS data and new license

2010-06-19 Thread John Smith
On 19 June 2010 22:19, Liz  wrote:
> no I don't know
> the licence asks for attribution
> but whether the new proposed new system is going to provide appropriate
> attribution?

The new license has a requirement for attribution so I don't think
that's a problem. I think cc-by is ok, but cc-by-sa most likely won't
be ok as the data won't be released under the same license in future.

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Re: [talk-au] Hikers on this list?

2010-06-19 Thread John Smith
On 19 June 2010 20:04, Craig Feuerherdt  wrote:
> The only DEM that I know about is the 9second product from Geoscience
> Australia - http://www.ga.gov.au/meta/ANZCW0703011541.html It does cost $100
> and probably has some stringent use/distribution limitations.
> You want the DEM to produce a hillshade or to derive contours from? If you
> want contours the Geo Data 250k product
> (http://www.ga.gov.au/image_cache/GA8349.pdf) is downloadable. Once again
> not certain on the licencing arrangements.

A little birdy tells me that they think the GA data may suffer similar
problems to the SRTM data, in any case will have to look into the
licensing, it may not be favourable even if the data isn't being
uploaded to OSM.

In the mean time we can play spot the unmapped islands, so far I've
found several, including this one in SA waters.

http://maps.bigtincan.com/?z=12&ll=-34.643,134.793&layer=0B000FTFF

This island chain near Singapore:

http://maps.bigtincan.com/?z=13&ll=3.130,106.104&layer=0B000FTFF

And the first one I spotted was in NZ waters:

http://maps.bigtincan.com/?z=12&ll=-37.290,176.258&layer=0B000FTFF

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Re: [talk-au] ABS data and new license

2010-06-19 Thread Liz
On Sat, 19 Jun 2010, Franc Carter wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> Legal stuff, hurts my brain to the point of making no progress ;-(
> 
> Does anyone know if the proposed new license is compatible with the ABS
> license at http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/2.5/au/
> 
> thanks

no I don't know
the licence asks for attribution
but whether the new proposed new system is going to provide appropriate 
attribution?

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[talk-au] ABS data and new license

2010-06-19 Thread Franc Carter
Hi,

Legal stuff, hurts my brain to the point of making no progress ;-(

Does anyone know if the proposed new license is compatible with the ABS
license at http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/2.5/au/

thanks

-- 
Franc
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Re: [talk-au] Hikers on this list?

2010-06-19 Thread Craig Feuerherdt
The only DEM that I know about is the 9second product from Geoscience
Australia - http://www.ga.gov.au/meta/ANZCW0703011541.html It does cost $100
and probably has some stringent use/distribution limitations.
You want the DEM to produce a hillshade or to derive contours from? If you
want contours the Geo Data 250k product (
http://www.ga.gov.au/image_cache/GA8349.pdf) is downloadable. Once again not
certain on the licencing arrangements.

Craig
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Re: [talk-au] Attributing points and/or areas

2010-06-19 Thread Craig Feuerherdt
i much prefer the single object option ie move attributes to the polygon if
it is mapped. Just want to make sure that if/when these mass imports are
updated (ie caltex service stations etc) that any scripts will check both
point and polygon features.

Cheers,

Craig

On 19 June 2010 10:09, John Smith  wrote:

> On 19 June 2010 10:03, Roy Wallace  wrote:
> > Within the GPS software - yes. Within the OSM database - no.
>
> That's what I actually meant, within pre-processing software, not in
> the OSM DB...
>
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