Re: [talk-au] Sydney Wiki page actively discourages mapping pubs

2010-06-27 Thread Tom Brennan

On 27/06/2010 2:10 AM, John Smith wrote:

Since I'm not in Sydney I was hessitent to make changes, at least
without announcing ahead of time.


Fair enough.  However, I think it's out of date enough that you could 
just make the changes anyway. It will probably spur some Sydneysiders to 
then tidy it up.



Speaking of which, the NoName layer appears way out of date. There are
streets I named a couple of months ago that still haven't made it off that
layer. Is it still being regenerated?


Is this the BTC noname layer or the Cloudmade noname layer?


It's the Cloudmade layer. Even with a cache refresh it's still months 
out of date in the area I'm interested in. I had to Google BTC to find 
out what it was, but its NoName layer is much more up to date.


cheers

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Re: [talk-au] Sydney Wiki page actively discourages mapping pubs

2010-06-27 Thread John Smith
On 27 June 2010 17:51, Tom Brennan webs...@ozultimate.com wrote:
 Fair enough.  However, I think it's out of date enough that you could just
 make the changes anyway. It will probably spur some Sydneysiders to then
 tidy it up.

This thread prompted at least one person to update their info a little :)

I've also removed the section that prompted this thread to see if
anyone will be upset at all.

 It's the Cloudmade layer. Even with a cache refresh it's still months out of

You have to force the tiles to be redrawn by viewing the tile and
putting /dirty on the end, otherwise you see the cached tiles.

 date in the area I'm interested in. I had to Google BTC to find out what it
 was, but its NoName layer is much more up to date.

Sorry, I thought the URL was common knowledge :)

http://maps.bigtincan.com/?z=11ll=-33.866,151.028layer=BFTFFF

There is a couple of big red blobs around Blacktown and Penrith...

Also no one replied to my post about stopping things from showing up
on the noname layer, so I just pushed the current thoughts to the
Aussie tagging guidelines page:

http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Australian_Tagging_Guidelines#How_can_I_tag_streets_with_missing_signs.2Fno_names.3F

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Re: [talk-au] Sydney Wiki page actively discourages mapping pubs

2010-06-27 Thread David Murn
On Mon, 2010-06-28 at 08:16 +1000, Tom Brennan wrote:
 On 27/06/2010 8:38 PM, John Smith wrote:
  It's the Cloudmade layer. Even with a cache refresh it's still months out 
  of
 
  You have to force the tiles to be redrawn by viewing the tile and
  putting /dirty on the end, otherwise you see the cached tiles.
 
 Like this ?
 http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=-33.7127lon=150.4666zoom=15layers=000BFTF/dirty

No, load the map in your browser, then right click on the map image tile
you want to refresh, click 'view image', then when the single image
loads, add /dirty to the end.

David


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Re: [talk-au] Sydney Wiki page actively discourages mapping pubs

2010-06-27 Thread John Smith
On 28 June 2010 08:16, Tom Brennan webs...@ozultimate.com wrote:
 Like this ?
 http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=-33.7127lon=150.4666zoom=15layers=000BFTF/dirty
 I filled in all the streets in this area back in April.

As David wrote, you need to view the individual tiles and add dirty to the end:

eg if the image is

http://c.tile.cloudmade.com/fd093e52f0965d46bb1c6c6281022199/3/256/15/30078/19646.png

You do this:

http://c.tile.cloudmade.com/fd093e52f0965d46bb1c6c6281022199/3/256/15/30078/19646.png/dirty

but that's a complete pain in the butt to do, especially if you have
to force a lot of tiles to be re-drawn

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[talk-au] Queensland parks, forests and conservation areas

2010-06-27 Thread James Livingston
Hi all,

I've been looking at http://data.australia.gov.au/127, which contains all
the national parks, state forest, conservation areas and so on in
Queensland. If no-one else had been doing anything with this, I'd been
thinking about adding it to OSM.

Current practice seems to be tagging them all as boundary=national_park,
regardless of whether they're National Parks or other things like State
Forests. Would adding national_park=state_forest and similar to the tags be
a good idea?

There's also a bunch of things like resource reserves and timber
reserves inside the parks, any good suggestions about how to tag those?


This would obviously be a manual piece-by-piece upload, since it would need
merging with existing data there's interesting things like river/road names
we can pull out (because it has the road reserves marked). A converted file
with most of the attributes cleaned up is at
http://www.sunsetutopia.com/qld_parks.osm.bz2 if anyone wants to look, but
it still needs a lot of merging of polygons and the like

-- 
James
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Re: [talk-au] Queensland parks, forests and conservation areas

2010-06-27 Thread John Smith
On 28 June 2010 10:24, James Livingston li...@sunsetutopia.com wrote:
 Current practice seems to be tagging them all as boundary=national_park,
 regardless of whether they're National Parks or other things like State
 Forests. Would adding national_park=state_forest and similar to the tags be
 a good idea?

State forests aren't the same thing as national parks, state forests
are government operated logging areas...

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