Re: [talk-au] outback SA street names
Neil Penman wrote: Yes the Coober Pedy golf course is almost identical to the google maps representation. Using google earth it does however seem to me that the golf course in that area (no grass of course) but the area marked on the maps only covers a small part of the total course, maybe the club house and immediate surrounds. Still the main point I wanted to make is that if before talking about reverting edits you need to talk to the mapper directly and get there story. Agree totally. Message sent. Cheers Ross ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
Re: [talk-au] outback SA street names
It's not a full sized golf course from what I saw of it when I was through there in June this year. Kevin S From: talk-au-boun...@openstreetmap.org [mailto:talk-au-boun...@openstreetmap.org] On Behalf Of Neil Penman Sent: Wednesday, 27 October 2010 3:20 PM To: talk-au@openstreetmap.org; i...@4x4falcon.com Subject: Re: [talk-au] outback SA street names Yes the Coober Pedy golf course is almost identical to the google maps representation. Using google earth it does however seem to me that the golf course in that area (no grass of course) but the area marked on the maps only covers a small part of the total course, maybe the club house and immediate surrounds. Still the main point I wanted to make is that if before talking about reverting edits you need to talk to the mapper directly and get there story. --- On Wed, 27/10/10, Ross Scanlon i...@4x4falcon.com wrote: From: Ross Scanlon i...@4x4falcon.com Subject: Re: [talk-au] outback SA street names To: talk-au@openstreetmap.org Received: Wednesday, 27 October, 2010, 12:42 PM referenced is for Coober Pedy. As far as I can tell the guy was on holiday in Aus mapped Coober Pedy then traveled on through Marree adding the pub as he went. The Coober Pedy ones look suspect as well. If you compare the Golf Cource (their spelling) with the mentioned commercial maps then they are similar. If you look at the satellite images from the same source then you see that it bears no resemblence to what is actually there. Cheers Ross ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
[talk-au] [Fwd: [OpenStreetMap] Re: Marree, South Australia]
Original Message Subject: [OpenStreetMap] Re: Marree, South Australia From:staehler m-141249-8c1...@messages.openstreetmap.org Date:Wed, October 27, 2010 17:37 To: ed...@billiau.net -- Hi drlizau, staehler has sent you a message through OpenStreetMap with the subject Re: Marree, South Australia: == Hi, you obviously found a patch which hasn't removed last time. I copied some names and streets from google, sorry for this. I officially apologized for my mistake, see attached mail. I'm going to remove my edits in marree and please accept my apologize. Best regards, Michael - Hi Neal, I'll get support from Frederik (Germany). He is going to revert my changes. After that OSM is clean from my edits. I'll keep my enthusiasm for OSM :-) Regards, Michael On Wed Apr 14 02:13:14 UTC 2010 NRS wrote: Hi, Yes OSM is infectious. I don't know much about reverting changesets but others who do seem to have taken up the query. I will leave it to them. Please keep your enthusiasm for OSM. Cheers Neal On Tue Apr 13 20:18:08 UTC 2010 staehler wrote: Hi Neal, first of all please accept my appologise for my obvious mistakes I made. I try to prepare my australia holiday and want to compile my own garmin maps. Therefore I added some additional POIs and played with JOSM. Accidentially the fuel POIs have been uploaded. I already removed them from OSM. But to be honest, after drawing overland roads from landsat I also copied roads from google to complete some places of our planned route. I didn't do this on different layers in JOSM and uploaded both to OSM, the copied roads from google and the copied overland roads from landsat. I couldn't stop my enthusiasm to the openstreetmap project and walked the illegal way - I'm so sorry! How can I remove my changesets? I'ld appreciate your assistance in this, if possible: #4341783 #4341031 #4339058 #4338519 #4332119 #4330945 #4330174 Again, please appologise all inconvinience I have caused :-( Nevertheless I'm looking forward visiting australia with our rent 4WD next year :-) Best regards, Michael On 2010-10-26 20:24:55 UTC drlizau wrote: Staehler, from where did you get the street names in Marree? There isn't a single street sign in the town. == You can also read the message at http://www.openstreetmap.org/message/read/141249 and you can reply at http://www.openstreetmap.org/message/reply/141249 ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
Re: [talk-au] outback SA street names
Ian Sergeant wrote: As far as street names are concerned, we could just pick up the names for the streets currently unnamed by survey from the Atlas of SA, and attribute appropriately. If someone gets updated names from survey, they can update. Until then the temptation to just add them from a commercial map is gone. It would only take a couple of minutes for Maree/Coober Pedy, and the problem as far as street names go would vanish. Ian. Good idea. Just be careful not to replace names already surveyed. Cheers Ross ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
Re: [talk-au] outback SA street names
As far as street names are concerned, we could just pick up the names for the streets currently unnamed by survey from the Atlas of SA, and attribute appropriately. I've got 3 names by research - checking the addresses of the pub, school, police station. After that I was going to send offspring to Dept Lands in Adelaide to read the official maps and get some names definitely off copyright I didn't know about the Atlas of SA If someone gets updated names from survey, they can update. Until then the temptation to just add them from a commercial map is gone. It would only take a couple of minutes for Maree/Coober Pedy, and the problem as far as street names go would vanish. Ian. That then removes the tempation On 27 October 2010 12:42, Ross Scanlon i...@4x4falcon.com wrote: referenced is for Coober Pedy. As far as I can tell the guy was on holiday in Aus mapped Coober Pedy then traveled on through Marree adding the pub as he went. The Coober Pedy ones look suspect as well. If you compare the Golf Cource (their spelling) with the mentioned commercial maps then they are similar. If you look at the satellite images from the same source then you see that it bears no resemblence to what is actually there. Cheers Ross ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
Re: [talk-au] outback SA street names
On Tue, 26 Oct 2010 17:20:50 -0400 Richard Weait rich...@weait.com wrote: What did staehler say when you discussed this? reply sent to list separately ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
Re: [talk-au] [Fwd: [OpenStreetMap] Re: Marree, South Australia]
On Wed, 27 Oct 2010 15:28:08 +1000 Ross Scanlon i...@4x4falcon.com wrote: It would be nice if people passed on the info as per here: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Australian_Vandalism That way these could have been reverted easily. Looking at them most will have problems as they have been modified by others. Please don't touch them, I'll arrange to have the reverts run over this weekend (30th-31st October). Cheers Ross Usual wiki problem - can't find any info when you want it so i just started with contact and an email to talk-au I was thinking as I cycled home tonight that JOSM really needs source= coming up in the presets - if we had that we would have known what this gentleman had got from landsat and what was not from landsat, and now it will all have to go because that was recorded on JOSM when he edited (see forwarded explanation) ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
Re: [talk-au] outback SA street names
On Tue, 26 Oct 2010 14:33:25 -0700 (PDT) Neil Penman ianaf4...@yahoo.com wrote: As far as I can tell the guy was on holiday in Aus mapped Coober Pedy then traveled on through Marree adding the pub as he went. Pub isn't where he put it, nor the Health Service and the pub is really called The Great Northern Hotel on the board with the licensee's name ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
Re: [talk-au] outback SA street names
You done good Liz. Well spotted. --- On Wed, 27/10/10, Elizabeth Dodd ed...@billiau.net wrote: From: Elizabeth Dodd ed...@billiau.net Subject: Re: [talk-au] outback SA street names To: Cc: talk-au@openstreetmap.org Received: Wednesday, 27 October, 2010, 7:22 PM On Tue, 26 Oct 2010 14:33:25 -0700 (PDT) Neil Penman ianaf4...@yahoo.com wrote: As far as I can tell the guy was on holiday in Aus mapped Coober Pedy then traveled on through Marree adding the pub as he went. Pub isn't where he put it, nor the Health Service and the pub is really called The Great Northern Hotel on the board with the licensee's name ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
Re: [talk-au] outback SA street names
On Wed, 27 Oct 2010 16:16:10 +1100 Ian Sergeant inas66+...@gmail.com wrote: As far as street names are concerned, we could just pick up the names for the streets currently unnamed by survey from the Atlas of SA, and attribute appropriately. If someone gets updated names from survey, they can update. Until then the temptation to just add them from a commercial map is gone. It would only take a couple of minutes for Maree/Coober Pedy, and the problem as far as street names go would vanish. Son agrees to get copyright free data from appropriate government department in Adelaide - he said he had to go there anyway. then when the revert process has completed I can add names and attribute them to correct source ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
