Re: [talk-au] cities changed to towns

[Nick Hocking]

Richard wrote

"Take a shot at creating rendering rules that fit your use case!  :-)"

I'm with John on this one - especially for the case of Australia.  Maybe we
need a special renderer for Australia.  Just recently I managed to get some
new mappers interested in mapping in rural NSW.

They have started on the Wyndham area (which was just about completely
unmapped, and they are having the same problem as John. I,E when they want
to see Wyndham and it's neighbouurs (Candelo and Cathcart) at the same time
on a map, OpenStreetMap shows almost nothing since they are too far apart.

We really need a smart renderer that determines (for each tile in each zoom
level) what are the most significant objects/ways in that tile/zoom and
makes sure that they are rendered (even if they happen to be hundred mile
long dirt tracks). Also if the major places in the tile are only
localities,hamlets or villages then they should be rendered. That way we
would not be tempted to elevate a village to a town just to make the map
usable.


Nick
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Re: [talk-au] cities changed to towns

[Richard Weait]

On Wed, Dec 12, 2012 at 2:16 PM, John Henderson  wrote:

> Absolutely.  When I'm planning a trip, I like to look at OSM maps
> online.  There's nothing more frustrating than seeing a few "towns"
> (obvious from the network of streets), but not a town name to be seen.
>
> Sure, I can zoom in to see the names, but when I do that, I've got to
> zoom in so far that I can no longer see the spacial relationship between
> those few towns (because I can see only one at a time).  This is the
> result of tagging rural Australian towns purely on the basis of population.
>
> The principle of not tagging for the renderer can be taken too far.  The
> maps must be useful.


Don't obsess over a single renderer.  You wouldn't use a circuit diagram to
build a bookcase, and you wouldn't instruct your chef with music notation.
Make a rendering style that meets your needs. Take a shot at creating
rendering rules that fit your use case!  :-)
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Re: [talk-au] cities changed to towns

[Richard Weait]

On Mon, Dec 10, 2012 at 5:17 PM, Chris Barham  wrote:

> Hi,
> some Australian places have changed from cities to towns on;
> changeset was: http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/changeset/14217241
>
> I've emailed to the editor to ask the source for the change as I believe
> some are now incorrect.
>

Did the account reply to you in a satisfactory manner?  I don't see a
correspondent in this thread that I relate to that username "porjo".  Have
the edits in question been reverted?
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[talk-au] Fwd: [Osmf-talk] State of the Map 2013 - Call for Venues

[Charles Gregory]

Hi everyone,

I've only been on this list for a short time - is there any city in
Australia with a large enough active userbase to submit a bid?

Regards,

Charles

-- Forwarded message --
From: Richard Fairhurst 
Date: Wed, Dec 19, 2012 at 10:14 AM
Subject: [Osmf-talk] State of the Map 2013 - Call for Venues
To: t...@openstreetmap.org, osmf-t...@openstreetmap.org


Hi all,

The State of the Map 2013 call for venues is out:

http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/**wiki/State_Of_The_Map_2013/**Call_for_venues

Looking forward to seeing the bids. Please do forward this to/translate for
your local country lists.

cheers
Richard

[sent to both talk@ and osmf-talk@, please be selective in your replies :) ]

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Re: [talk-au] Tagging dirt and 4x4 roads - new approach

[Ross Scanlon]

On 16/12/12 16:50, Russell Edwards wrote:

Could I ask a newbie question on this topic?

I want to update some roads that are 4wd-only in certain sections.

Any "new approach" aside, what is the best way to do this -- a) what tag
do I use, and b) how do I handle the changing traversibility - separate
ways linked as a route, or... ?

Thanks in advance

Russell


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a) Well if you look at the wiki

http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Australian_Tagging_Guidelines#Unsealed_and_4wd_Roads

This will give you an idea of where to start.

b) Realistically if the track is 4wd_only=yes;recommended for part of 
it, it should be 4wd_only=yes;recommended for it's entire length. 
Unless there is definitely a section that can be accessed by other 
vehicles without having to go through a 4wd_only=yes section.


For example I'd tag a track as below in exactly the way the tags are on 
the appropriate sections this would show that all vehicles can acces the 
section up to the 4wd_only=yes but you need to have 4wd_only from there on.


Start of track - 4wd_only=no - 4wd_only=recommended - 4wd_only=yes - 
4wd_only=no - End of track


This one there is really no point in tagging the center bit as 
4wd_only=no (or no tag) as only 4wd's can access the track anyway.


Start of track - 4wd_only=yes - 4wd_only=recommended - 4wd_only=no - 
4wd_only=yes - End of track.


No need to put it in a relation I'd just tag the individual sections of 
the way with the appropriate 4wd_only tag.


A link to the way you are looking at editing would help us help you as well.

Cheers
Ross

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