[talk-au] Large contribution to update OSM rural / offroad tracks in Australia

[James Nuccio]

Hi OSM community!

I'm relatively new to using and contributing to OSM but must say I'm really
getting into it.  I am currently building a navigation app targeted towards
the 4wding market which makes use of OSM.  Part of our offering is to
geo-track our users as they navigate through the bush to better understand
the 4wd tracks themselves.

A byproduct of this process is that we have hundred of traces to be able to
validate the geometry of current tracks, as well as add new tracks to the
database.  All of these traces are an aggregation of user data, not traces
of individual users.

I am keen to get this info back into OSM but I'm looking for help as I
don't have capacity to do so myself.  However I'd still like the
contributions to be entered under my OSM userid.

Is this something anyone can help with?  I'm based in Melbourne if that
makes a difference.

Cheers
James

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Re: [talk-au] Aboriginal art sites

[Graeme Fitzpatrick]

On Wed, 3 Apr 2019 at 07:17, Graeme Fitzpatrick 
wrote:

> This was discussed a while back about mapping a track up in that area, but
> I can't find the reference in the archives
>

Found it!

https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk-au/2018-August/012029.html

Which mentioned "I have just had an email back to say the elders do not
want the trail mapped at this time"

Also spotted
https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk-au/2018-January/011634.html

"we should be attempting to engage with out local indigenous community and
asking them what their local language is and what features in OSM (or that
we can add to OSM) are important to them."

Thanks

Graeme
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Re: [talk-au] Aboriginal art sites

[Graeme Fitzpatrick]

On Mon, 1 Apr 2019 at 20:27, Ian Sergeant  wrote:

> How do we actually contact "local elders"?
>

Would have to be done "on the ground" in that local area


>   Where do we record their consent?
>

Possibly in Notes? Maybe the Oz Data Catalogue page
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Australian_data_catalogue or similar?

  What if they change their minds?
>

Then I think we would need to delete the entries, similar to the way that
you can request your premises not be shown on Google Maps. I have seen a
comment on the Tagging list that some town in the US requested that all
it's minor streets be deleted from all online maps to prevent rat-runners
from driving down them!


>
> Are we saying other mappers should delete these sites if they see them on
> the map?  How do they know if approval was obtained?
>

I would hope that people have done things "properly". As mentioned though,
if the site is advertised / signposted, then it's fine to map. But if
you're walking in the Kimberley & find a cave full of paintings, then you
should ask for approval before mapping them. This was discussed a while
back about mapping a track up in that area, but I can't find the reference
in the archives


> is this form of censorship practised anywhere else in OSM - maybe for
> other indigenous people - that we could copy their model?
>

I don't know? I'll post the question on the Tagging list.


> P.S. It's Strait - not "Straight".
>

Thanks! Corrected :-)

Thanks

Graeme
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Re: [talk-au] Berry Train Station

[Andrew Harvey]

According to the wiki, railway=station areas start at the entrance signal
from the perspective of the train, not the passenger, so based on that, the
area would enlarge.

However I wouldn't have though this entrance signal has any correlation to
the cadastral parcels, which is what it seems you're proposing? Do you have
any knowledge that indicates it does? I thought the parcels which make up
the rail corridor were arbitrary and internal boundaries don't represent
anything.

PS. If you're planning on importing cadastre, I'd appreciate a few dot
points on your plan, so the community has some visibility.

On Tue, 2 Apr 2019 at 22:07, Sebastian Spiess  wrote:

> This is follow on from the previous discussion about the Sydney train
> station.
>
> The Berry station (public_transport=station) is currently outlined by
> https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/678867487
>
> Thanks to the meet up last weekend I was introduced to QGIS and the NSW
> data source.
>
> If I import the areas of each plot of land the train station is quite a
> big area. See the screenshot here: https://prnt.sc/n6cg12
>
> My question is now should the complete area be tagged landuse=railway
> AND railway=station which is how I understand the wiki when using an
> area,
>
> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:railway%3Dstation#A_Simple_Railway_Station
>
> What are your thoughts?
>
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[talk-au] Berry Train Station

[Sebastian Spiess]

This is follow on from the previous discussion about the Sydney train
station.

The Berry station (public_transport=station) is currently outlined by
https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/678867487

Thanks to the meet up last weekend I was introduced to QGIS and the NSW
data source.

If I import the areas of each plot of land the train station is quite a
big area. See the screenshot here: https://prnt.sc/n6cg12

My question is now should the complete area be tagged landuse=railway
AND railway=station which is how I understand the wiki when using an
area,
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:railway%3Dstation#A_Simple_Railway_Station

What are your thoughts?


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