Re: [talk-au] Data challenges in Maproulette for AU territories

2021-08-02 Thread Adam Horan
Can the existing MalformedRoundaboutChecks be disabled/hidden until they
are corrected?

They're currently still visible and show the incorrect identifications.

Thanks,

Adam

On Tue, 3 Aug 2021 at 05:25, Oisin Herriott (Insight Global Inc) via
Talk-au  wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> As called out my original post, we have now published the Atlas check
> Maproulette challenges for territories of NSW, WA, SA, and NT. These are
> posted through our github here,
> https://github.com/microsoft/Open-Maps/issues/69.
>
> Andrew Davidson pointed out the incorrect direction being identified in
> relation to MalformedRoundaboutCheck. Having passed on this feedback, it
> appears that the check takes into consideration the different sides of the
> road travelled in  countries. This is based off of a list of ISO country
> codes and a tag for iso_country_code, but as these challenges were created
> on a territory by territory basis, this was an oversight and will be
> updated. Thanks again for the feedback on that.
>
> Thanks Andrew Harvey for the update on the VIC address import project, it
> will be interesting to re-run the atlas check after this is complete and
> see what the results are.
>
> Thanks all,
> Oisin
>
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>3. Re: Roads in Industrial Estates: Residential, Unclassified or
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> Hi Andrew,
>
> As per your message below -
> " I think there may be a problem with your MalformedRoundaboutCheck
> challenges. It appears that every roundabout in the ACT and VIC has been
> flagged. I've checked about 15 so far and none of them have any issues.
>
> Could you have forgotten that roundabouts are clockwise in AU?"
>
> Thank you for pointing this out. I took a look and agree, so have fed this
> information back to some of the folks who worked on these tasks. The
> country's direction o f travel should be considered when looking into the
> details of the check on github here,
> https://nam06.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fgithub.com%2Fosmlab%2Fatlas-checks%2Fblob%2Fdev%2Fdocs%2Fchecks%2FmalformedRoundaboutCheck.mddata=04%7C01%7Cv-oiher%40microsoft.com%7C5a14f9d64ab04e3ee30908d950cc7ddd%7C72f988bf86f141af91ab2d7cd011db47%7C1%7C0%7C637629661641271485%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000sdata=BjxwawMPwjJctwBEulm%2FAhDCUD6qWob%2F%2F3SZ27wK8X4%3Dreserved=0.
> I can update when I find out more and will also check in other territories
> before sending any out on Maproulette until we find out whats happening  on
> this check.
>
> Best,
> Oisin
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[talk-au] Data challenges in Maproulette for AU territories

2021-08-02 Thread Oisin Herriott (Insight Global Inc) via Talk-au
Hi all,

As called out my original post, we have now published the Atlas check 
Maproulette challenges for territories of NSW, WA, SA, and NT. These are posted 
through our github here, https://github.com/microsoft/Open-Maps/issues/69. 

Andrew Davidson pointed out the incorrect direction being identified in 
relation to MalformedRoundaboutCheck. Having passed on this feedback, it 
appears that the check takes into consideration the different sides of the road 
travelled in  countries. This is based off of a list of ISO country codes and a 
tag for iso_country_code, but as these challenges were created on a territory 
by territory basis, this was an oversight and will be updated. Thanks again for 
the feedback on that.

Thanks Andrew Harvey for the update on the VIC address import project, it will 
be interesting to re-run the atlas check after this is complete and see what 
the results are. 

Thanks all,
Oisin

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   1. Re: Data challenges in Maproulette for AU territories
  (Oisin Herriott (Insight Global Inc))
   2. Re: Celebrating 17 years of OSM (Edoardo Neerhut)
   3. Re: Roads in Industrial Estates: Residential, Unclassified or
  Service? (Graeme Fitzpatrick)
   4. Re: Roads in Industrial Estates: Residential, Unclassified or
  Service? (Adam Horan)


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Date: Mon, 26 Jul 2021 17:23:21 +
From: "Oisin Herriott (Insight Global Inc)" 
To: "talk-au@openstreetmap.org" 
Subject: Re: [talk-au] Data challenges in Maproulette for AU
territories
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Hi Andrew,

As per your message below -
" I think there may be a problem with your MalformedRoundaboutCheck challenges. 
It appears that every roundabout in the ACT and VIC has been flagged. I've 
checked about 15 so far and none of them have any issues.

Could you have forgotten that roundabouts are clockwise in AU?"

Thank you for pointing this out. I took a look and agree, so have fed this 
information back to some of the folks who worked on these tasks. The country's 
direction o f travel should be considered when looking into the details of the 
check on github here, 
https://nam06.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fgithub.com%2Fosmlab%2Fatlas-checks%2Fblob%2Fdev%2Fdocs%2Fchecks%2FmalformedRoundaboutCheck.mddata=04%7C01%7Cv-oiher%40microsoft.com%7C5a14f9d64ab04e3ee30908d950cc7ddd%7C72f988bf86f141af91ab2d7cd011db47%7C1%7C0%7C637629661641271485%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000sdata=BjxwawMPwjJctwBEulm%2FAhDCUD6qWob%2F%2F3SZ27wK8X4%3Dreserved=0.
 I can update when I find out more and will also check in other territories 
before sending any out on Maproulette until we find out whats happening  on 
this check.

Best,
Oisin

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Re: [talk-au] Audible fences

2021-08-02 Thread Warin

On 1/8/21 7:25 pm, Mateusz Konieczny via Talk-au wrote:




Aug 1, 2021, 09:48 by fors...@ozonline.com.au:


What physically is this 'screeching fence'?


Is it in the middle of the road like a cattle grid, or along
the edge
of the road?

A single pole with the device on it?

Or is it 2 poles on opposite sides of the road with devices
mounted one them?

Or is it a series of poles along both sides of the road with
devices on them?


Hi Warin
There is more than one way to implement virtual fencing
The one near me https://www.wildlifesafetysolutions.com.au/
Is a series of poles along both sides of the road with devices on
them, though it could be one side

Tony


Then barrier=fence is really unsuitable - as it is not a barrier at 
all for human and

is unlike other barrier=fence despite using similar name
I'd not place the qualifier on a fence being a human barrier, what if 
the fence is 0.6 meters high?


I would advise against using barrier=fence for them
Even barrier=audible_fence would be better.

Maybe  something completely different
barrier=audible or barrier=sensoric (???)
(AFAIK also light is sometimes used)



I'd not use fence even as an extension.

barrier=audio ?

And for one using light alone

barrier=light?

For one using both light and audio

barrier-audio_and_light ?

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