[talk-au] Existing OSM precedent | Re: Aboriginal art sites

2019-04-03 Thread Rory McCann

On 01/04/2019 12:27, Ian Sergeant wrote:
is this form of censorship practised anywhere else in OSM - maybe for 
other indigenous people - that we could copy their model?


I don't think "censorship" is a helpful term here.

But there has been a practice in OSM to *not* map certain things, such 
as private/non-publicized domestic violence shelters, or the nesting 
sites of endangered birds. So the same logic applies here I think.



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Re: [talk-au] Mapping Indigenous Place Names

2018-02-05 Thread Rory McCann
You can use Ethnologue to check out the languages in Australia and what 
the language code to use.


https://www.ethnologue.com/country/AU/languages

They also have maps:

https://www.ethnologue.com/sites/default/files/styles/original/public/maps/20/AU___rgb.png
https://www.ethnologue.com/sites/default/files/styles/original/public/maps/20/AU_n_rgb.png

On 26/01/18 13:09, David Dean wrote:

Hi everyone,

I've done a little research, and added the following section to the 
Australian Tagging Guidelines at 
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Australian_Tagging_Guidelines#Places, and 
the Multilingual names page at 
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Multilingual_names:


Please use the name:aus (aus is the general ISO639-2 code for Australian 
Aboriginal Languages) to indicate the indigenous names of places. It 
would be useful to do this even when the generally used name is 
indigenous, to allow for a potential indigenous rendering of our maps.


I hope we can all agree that this is an excellent idea, and starting 
adding these everywhere we can. Here's my first go: 
https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/55769062.


So far we currently have about 4 name:aus tags in the whole country (see 
https://overpass-turbo.eu/s/voW). We can do better that that!


- David

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Re: [talk-au] Is it ok to add data from the yellow pages to OSM?

2016-11-15 Thread Rory McCann
On 12/11/16 05:09, Ian Sergeant wrote:
> This area of the law is unsettled in Australia, and OSM is about
> gathering open data, not being a legal test case on what we are
> allowed to copy.
> 
> Best practice is to ask the owner if we can use the information under
> the OSM terms and conditions.

This is an important point. OSM is trying to be "very clean" when it
comes to copyright.

After all, if you were to use it, and then a court were to find that
that was copyright infringement, then suddely OSM becomes unusable for
everyone. Anyone who uses OSM data would be liable to be sued. etc.

"When in doubt, leave it out" unfortunatly.

R




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Re: [talk-au] Tagging for the router

2016-09-06 Thread Rory McCann
On 31/08/16 13:44, Andrew Davidson wrote:
> Turn restrictions are, after all, entirely tagging for the router (it's
> not like they get rendered on the map).

"Tagging for the renderer" (similar to "tagging for the router") is a
bad thing when people add _incorrect_ data in order to get it to show up
nicely on the map.

If the playground at a local school had a red tarmac play area, and you
map it as building=industrial because that gets the correct reddish
colour, *thats* tagging for the renderer. You've added bad data so that
you could get a nice map. Instead you should change the renderer

In this case, if you're not legally allowed to make that u turn, then
adding a no_u_turn restriction isn't *incorrect*. Perhaps routers should
know about all the local restrictions, or deduce it from the geometry,
but adding such a turn restriction isn't added incorrect data.

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