[talk-au] Adelaide Metro using OpenStreetmap/OpenTripPlanner instead of Google Transit

2012-11-01 Thread Alex Sims
Adelaide Metro, the umbrella brand for public transport in Adelaide on 
their new (beta) website at


http://www.adelaidemetro.com.au/

are using OpenTripPlanner and OpenStreetmap for journey planning. Nice 
to see OpenStreetmap getting more, albeit unacknowledged exposure.


Alex

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Re: [talk-au] Adelaide Metro using OpenStreetmap/OpenTripPlanner instead of Google Transit

2012-11-01 Thread Daniel O'Connor
On Thu, Nov 1, 2012 at 5:08 PM, Alex Sims a...@softgrow.com wrote:

 Adelaide Metro, the umbrella brand for public transport in Adelaide on
 their new (beta) website at

 http://www.adelaidemetro.com.**au/ http://www.adelaidemetro.com.au/

 are using OpenTripPlanner and OpenStreetmap for journey planning. Nice to
 see OpenStreetmap getting more, albeit unacknowledged exposure.


Are they pushing data into OSM? Or do we know if the installation has data
services available? (Good to see the bus stops are URIs!)

I remember approaching them several years ago, asking about data extracts
of timetables/stop locations/etc to do mashups - I met with them, but I
felt it went poorly at the time.

It's interesting to see this as basically an about face!
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Re: [talk-au] Adelaide Metro using OpenStreetmap/OpenTripPlanner instead of Google Transit

2012-11-01 Thread Alex Sims
My understanding is that real time data is sent from all Metrocard vehicles via 
GPRS to a central site. The supply of data is real soon now and they are keen 
to get developers using the data

All of the timetable data and stop data has been available for a year or so as 
GTFS format, although hidden on their old site under site map. There is a 
copy also on GitHub.

Getting back on topic I don't think their license condition permits upload to 
OpenStreetmap, but it wouldn't hurt to ask.

Alex

On 01/11/2012, at 9:11 PM, Daniel O'Connor daniel.ocon...@gmail.com wrote:

 Are they pushing data into OSM? Or do we know if the installation has data 
 services available? (Good to see the bus stops are URIs!)
 
 I remember approaching them several years ago, asking about data extracts of 
 timetables/stop locations/etc to do mashups - I met with them, but I felt it 
 went poorly at the time.

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Re: [talk-au] Adelaide Metro using OpenStreetmap/OpenTripPlanner instead of Google Transit

2012-11-01 Thread Daniel O'Connor
All of the timetable data and stop data has been available for a year or so
 as GTFS format, although hidden on their old site under site map. There
 is a copy also on GitHub.

 Neat, wish I'd seen that sooner!

Getting back on topic


So I guess...
What's the best kind of contribution that would make their use of OSM more
relevant to the public?

I put in a suggestion around looking at different renders - something more
like the transport map would be useful (as it focused on bus stops and
roads only), but I really don't know enough about the tools to judge how
hard that is.

House/street numbering, place names come to mind, but what else would
people recommend?
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Re: [talk-au] Adelaide Metro using OpenStreetmap/OpenTripPlanner instead of Google Transit

2012-11-01 Thread John Henderson

On 01/11/12 23:43, Daniel O'Connor wrote:


What's the best kind of contribution that would make their use of OSM
 more relevant to the public?


Putting in the footpaths which aren't alongside the road.  I mean the
important ones which run between buildings to allow pedestrian access
between streets without having to go the long way around (and following
the route cars would have to take).

John


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