Re: [talk-au] Boundary questions.

2009-04-14 Thread Ben Murphy
Hi Liz,

Looks ok to my untrained eye so-far:
http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=-34.6257lon=146.3141zoom=14layers=B000F
TF

Nice work!
Cheers,
Ben.

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Subject: Re: [talk-au] Boundary questions.

On Wed, 4 Mar 2009, Nick Hocking wrote:
 2) If a suburb follows a road or river should part of the boundary way be
 deleted and replaced with that part of the road or river.

 3) How can we determine if a boundary follows the centre of the road/river
 or maybe one or other sides of it.

I've just been replacing big hunks of Murrumbidgee River with the imported 
boundaries
In the first place most of the Murrumbidgee was imported by vmap, which
didn't 
do a great job with regard to the twists and turns of the river. Some has 
been handdrawn, and some of that was no better, depending on how tired I was

at the time.

So where the ABS boundaries show a great improvement (eg the river goes
under 
the bridges and lines up with landsat images, I've now used those for the 
Bidgee along a section - mostly Narrandera to Darlington Point.

I need to know if this doesn't work when it gets to the renderer, and if so 
what we could do about it.

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Re: [talk-au] Boundary questions.

2009-04-12 Thread Liz
On Wed, 4 Mar 2009, Nick Hocking wrote:
 2) If a suburb follows a road or river should part of the boundary way be
 deleted and replaced with that part of the road or river.

 3) How can we determine if a boundary follows the centre of the road/river
 or maybe one or other sides of it.

I've just been replacing big hunks of Murrumbidgee River with the imported 
boundaries
In the first place most of the Murrumbidgee was imported by vmap, which didn't 
do a great job with regard to the twists and turns of the river. Some has 
been handdrawn, and some of that was no better, depending on how tired I was 
at the time.

So where the ABS boundaries show a great improvement (eg the river goes under 
the bridges and lines up with landsat images, I've now used those for the 
Bidgee along a section - mostly Narrandera to Darlington Point.

I need to know if this doesn't work when it gets to the renderer, and if so 
what we could do about it.

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Re: [talk-au] Boundary questions.

2009-03-04 Thread Franc Carter
While we are thinking about alignment etc, I have found another case we
should consider.

In some areas the ABS data does not line up with the existing coastline
which has come from yahoo or landsat., e.g

  * Yowie Bay in sydney which I assume comes from Yahoo
  * The Whitsunday islands that I assume comes from landsat

Once the upload is done I am inclined align the the existing Whitsunday
Islands
to the new suburb boundary.

But what about the the yahoo based coastline - case by case based on gps
traces if available ? what about if we have no traces ?

cheers

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Re: [talk-au] Boundary questions.

2009-03-04 Thread Franc Carter
Agreed, it's not as simple as I was hoping ;-(

cheers

On Thu, Mar 5, 2009 at 11:01 AM, Ross Scanlon i...@4x4falcon.com wrote:

  In some areas the ABS data does not line up with the existing coastline
  which has come from yahoo or landsat., e.g
 
* Yowie Bay in sydney which I assume comes from Yahoo
* The Whitsunday islands that I assume comes from landsat
 
  Once the upload is done I am inclined align the the existing Whitsunday
  Islands
  to the new suburb boundary.
 
  But what about the the yahoo based coastline - case by case based on gps
  traces if available ? what about if we have no traces ?
 
* Yowie Bay in sydney which I assume comes from Yahoo
* The Whitsunday islands that I assume comes from landsat
 
  Once the upload is done I am inclined align the the existing Whitsunday
  Islands to the new suburb boundary.


 The Whitsunday islands are PGS data.

 Some sections have been aligned to Yahoo but not all.

 I'd be carefull about aligning to the ABS data without looking at Yahoo or
 some other sat image.  The ABS data cuts across the mouth of some bays and
 inlets and also extends too far up some of the inlets.  Have a look at
 Whitsunday Island with Yahoo imagery as the background.  Part of Cid
 Harbour (western side) is cut off and Hill Inlet extends all the way up
 the inlet which probably should be marked as a river.

 Also have a look at the area of Hamilton Island airport as the ABS data
 cuts across the runway and follows the original coastline.  So this data
 has obviously not been updated since 1984 when the runway was built.

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 Cheers
 Ross



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