Re: [talk-au] Fwd: [OSM-talk] How to tag giant acorn?
Looks like we still have a quite a few to map, http://wikitravel.org/en/Big_things_in_Australia A rough count gave 134! This list maybe incomplete, I seem to remember a big potato in Victoria. On Thursday 03 Sep 2009 06:58:40 John Smith wrote: I should have also included ID numbers: 260591287 Big Brook Dam 38897981 The Big Crocodile 360127819 Big Rocking Horse 252048067 The Big Orange 318538346 Big Tree 360634495 Big Tree 318321519 The Big Merino 434858614 Big Bike 434856044 Big Mobile Phone 325658111 The Big Pineapple 25976251 Big Banana 443522427 Big Kauri Tree 472460335 The Big Shell ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
Re: [talk-au] Fwd: [OSM-talk] How to tag giant acorn?
2009/9/3 Evan Sebire e...@sebire.org: Looks like we still have a quite a few to map, http://wikitravel.org/en/Big_things_in_Australia A rough count gave 134! This list maybe incomplete, I seem to remember a big potato in Victoria. This is why I gave ID numbers, you could then link from a list directly to OSM maps. eg, Big Banana http://www.openstreetmap.org/?node=25976251 ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
Re: [talk-au] Fwd: [OSM-talk] How to tag giant acorn?
great opportunity here there's a nice giant strawberry just south of Tocumwal http://www.thebigstrawberry.com.au/ and another one on the sunshine coast http://www.bigthings.com.au/s.htm Came across this by accident this morning, someone already has tagged the big shell http://maps.bigtincan.com/?zoom=18lat=-26.386291470173lon=153.03765129668 ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
Re: [talk-au] Fwd: [OSM-talk] How to tag giant acorn?
2009/9/3 gehar...@gmail.com: tourism=attraction tourism=information You can't have 2 tags with the same key, so you need to tag 2 nodes usually to cover both. I wonder how many Big Things have been tagged like: select name from planet_osm_point where tourism='attraction' and name ilike '%big%' Big Brook Dam The Big Crocodile Big Rocking Horse The Big Orange Big Tree Big Tree The Big Merino Big Bike Big Mobile Phone The Big Pineapple Big Banana Big Kauri Tree The Big Shell ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
Re: [talk-au] Fwd: [OSM-talk] How to tag giant acorn?
could be the Java implementation on my installation. I don't mind terribly much - I can use my desktop PC if I need to - but I just like the idea of live GPS trackign and POI tagging (if this is possible). For example - miss a traffic light and pop it on the map or whatever - or a road change. John Smith wrote: 2009/8/28 Sam Couter s...@couter.id.au: Atom is Intel's poor attempt at a low-power CPU, intended for embedded devices. They're sick of ARM kicking their arse in that market. It runs the same x86 instruction set as modern Intel laptop/desktop chips. Fair enough, I just checked and the eeePC I have has a celeron 900Mhz chip in it. I thought it was underclocked but /proc/cpuinfo states cpu MHz: 897.8 so I guess it's not under clocked but I didn't do anything I can think of that would have upped the clock speed, maybe changing from xandros to debian did it. ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
Re: [talk-au] Fwd: [OSM-talk] How to tag giant acorn?
how much better? I have heard kernel tuning can make a substantial difference... Maybe this is worth considering for the netbook - but I hear Debian is very conservative and slow to update with new applications? And would the eeePC branch work on an MSI Wind? Their basically identical as far as I can tell. John Smith wrote: 2009/8/28 Cosmic Charade cosmichar...@gmail.com: I use Ubuntu with xfce so a similar setup but it runs like a dog on mine for some reason maybe I installed the wrong version of Java or I need to run with some command line options? I don't know if this is relevent to you or not, but unlike Ubuntu, Debian has an eeePC branch with kernel patches applied from the Asus eeePC repositories which makes the eeePCs function better than running a stock kernel. http://wiki.debian.org/DebianEeePC/HowTo/Install http://debian-eeepc.alioth.debian.org/ ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
Re: [talk-au] Fwd: [OSM-talk] How to tag giant acorn?
2009/8/28 Cosmic Charade cosmichar...@gmail.com: could be the Java implementation on my installation. I don't mind terribly much - I can use my desktop PC if I need to - but I just like the idea of live GPS trackign and POI tagging (if this is possible). For example - miss a traffic light and pop it on the map or whatever - or a road change. Java is a bit of a dog at the best of times, but JOSM is a nice app and I really love being able to do GPS tracking of current position when driving about so if a street isn't tagged I don't have to figure out where I've driven just to find out the street is already named :) This happened to me the other day, thought I had taken my GPS dongles and left them both at home. Not happy Jan! ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
Re: [talk-au] Fwd: [OSM-talk] How to tag giant acorn?
2009/8/28 Cosmic Charade cosmichar...@gmail.com: how much better? I can't really make comparisions because I didn't use a stock kernel, however some sites I read while installing said there was gains to be had so I took that option :) I have heard kernel tuning can make a substantial difference... Maybe this is worth considering for the netbook - but I hear Debian is very conservative and slow to update with new applications? And would the eeePC branch work on an MSI Wind? Their basically identical as far as I can tell. I have no idea about a MSI Wind, see what comes up on a search engine I guess. As for Debian being out of date, that's only Debian stable, the stable branch is good for servers because you don't get any unexpected surprises, however for non-server stuff you can run testing or unstable packages depending how bleeding edge you want to be. Since I update JOSM independently it doesn't matter to me personally that the stable packages are out of date, but I run stable packages because I don't want surprises on my netbook when I go out to map and end up spending 20-30 mins to fix a problem, kills the mood in a hurry. ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
Re: [talk-au] Fwd: [OSM-talk] How to tag giant acorn?
2009/8/28 Evan Sebire e...@sebire.org: I develop a commercial surveying package for powerline design and of course use Qt, it is ideal for low power CPU's in the field with almost all of my customers using a panasonic toughbook which is quite slow but can last a whole day in the field, readable in direct sunlight and water/shock proof. If you have a spare 5k I would recommend one :-) I don't have much of a problem seeing the screen of an eeePC, but it wouldn't be water proof, but should be reasonably shock proof without the 10x price tag. The eeePC is easier to lug about too, the whole reason I got it was to stop using my laptop :) ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
Re: [talk-au] Fwd: [OSM-talk] How to tag giant acorn?
2009/8/28 Evan Sebire e...@sebire.org: I had an eee701 and would beg to differ on the screen readability, but LCD 's have been improving at about the same rate that my eyes are failing! (lenses getting thicker) Yea well I have so far had the good fortune of not needing glasses or other optical asstance, but it's fine for me. When surveying with a total station the toughbook sits on the tripod so weight Weight wasn't the big issue for me, it was the bulk and using it in a confined space in a car without needing to adjust the drivers seat when I pull up to quickly log a street name etc. and weighs around the eee701(1kg) but costs 7 times the price. Build qualities are worlds apart that is why commercial enterprises wouldn't touch a I wasn't suggesting that any enterprise switch to an eeePC :) However it does the job for me and because it's a solid state drive it should take a knock better than your average laptop and costs less than most laptops :) eee. The arrow keys and space gave up on the 701 after 12 months of playing tetris! If I was going to a lot of non-surveying I'd use an external keyboard/mouse but have a laptop for most everyday things, the eeePC is basically a car PC for surveying and the occasional video conference. ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
Re: [talk-au] Fwd: [OSM-talk] How to tag giant acorn?
Cosmic Charade cosmichar...@gmail.com wrote: I use Ubuntu with xfce so a similar setup but it runs like a dog on mine for some reason maybe I installed the wrong version of Java or I need to run with some command line options? My laptop is lower powered than yours and JOSM works okay. You need the Sun JRE, it won't work with OpenJDK. The only command line options I use are to set the HTTP proxy. -- Sam Couter | mailto:s...@couter.id.au OpenPGP fingerprint: A46B 9BB5 3148 7BEA 1F05 5BD5 8530 03AE DE89 C75C signature.asc Description: Digital signature ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
Re: [talk-au] Fwd: [OSM-talk] How to tag giant acorn?
I use Merkaartor on my laptop and are happy with the speed. Its a C++ app so appears more responsive than JOSM on my laptop. http://www.merkaartor.org/ There are packages for ubuntu or you can compile from source if you have the Qt libraries installed. Evan On Thursday 27 Aug 2009 11:00:29 Sam Couter wrote: Cosmic Charade cosmichar...@gmail.com wrote: I use Ubuntu with xfce so a similar setup but it runs like a dog on mine for some reason maybe I installed the wrong version of Java or I need to run with some command line options? My laptop is lower powered than yours and JOSM works okay. You need the Sun JRE, it won't work with OpenJDK. The only command line options I use are to set the HTTP proxy. ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
Re: [talk-au] Fwd: [OSM-talk] How to tag giant acorn?
--- On Thu, 27/8/09, Sam Couter s...@couter.id.au wrote: My laptop is lower powered than yours and JOSM works okay. You need the Sun JRE, it won't work with OpenJDK. The only command line options I use are to set the HTTP proxy. I run JOSM on my eeePC just fine, it's underclocked because it's only a 7 version and I didn't bother to clock it at the speed the cpu can run at. As for OpenJDK I couldn't even see the main screen at all, let alone use it. Also the OP said something about Atom CPU? I've no idea how that compares to intel chips. ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
Re: [talk-au] Fwd: [OSM-talk] How to tag giant acorn?
I have merkaartor - does this have similar capaiblity to JOSM? How have you found it? Evan Sebire wrote: I use Merkaartor on my laptop and are happy with the speed. Its a C++ app so appears more responsive than JOSM on my laptop. http://www.merkaartor.org/ There are packages for ubuntu or you can compile from source if you have the Qt libraries installed. Evan On Thursday 27 Aug 2009 11:00:29 Sam Couter wrote: Cosmic Charade cosmichar...@gmail.com wrote: I use Ubuntu with xfce so a similar setup but it runs like a dog on mine for some reason maybe I installed the wrong version of Java or I need to run with some command line options? My laptop is lower powered than yours and JOSM works okay. You need the Sun JRE, it won't work with OpenJDK. The only command line options I use are to set the HTTP proxy. ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
Re: [talk-au] Fwd: [OSM-talk] How to tag giant acorn?
Overall it has less features than JOSM but is still very powerful. I have only used JOSM less than 10 times and each time I end up thinking Java is never going to replace C++ for graphical things. This means placement of nodes, drawing of road/paths is better in Merkaartor, and it's interface I think is more intuitive (I'm a Qt person)! But it lacks some of the feature and plugin tools that JOSM have, and has very little support in terms of developers, this just shows what Qt(toolkit) is capable of. One of the main problems I find is that the conflict resolution is not very good/non-existant. For instance if you download a particular area and make changes and in the mean time someone else deletes a node that you are working with it though a wobbly and only give you the option to ignore, retry or cancel. None of which will help if that node is needed for a road. JOSM does handle this better but not without problems. My solution is to make small change-sets and upload regularly in the hope nothing adverse changes in a short period, which usually it doesn't. Evan. On Thursday 27 Aug 2009 13:55:47 Cosmic Charade wrote: I have merkaartor - does this have similar capaiblity to JOSM? How have you found it? Evan Sebire wrote: I use Merkaartor on my laptop and are happy with the speed. Its a C++ app so appears more responsive than JOSM on my laptop. http://www.merkaartor.org/ There are packages for ubuntu or you can compile from source if you have the Qt libraries installed. Evan On Thursday 27 Aug 2009 11:00:29 Sam Couter wrote: Cosmic Charade cosmichar...@gmail.com wrote: I use Ubuntu with xfce so a similar setup but it runs like a dog on mine for some reason maybe I installed the wrong version of Java or I need to run with some command line options? My laptop is lower powered than yours and JOSM works okay. You need the Sun JRE, it won't work with OpenJDK. The only command line options I use are to set the HTTP proxy. ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
Re: [talk-au] Fwd: [OSM-talk] How to tag giant acorn?
Sam Couter wrote: Atom is Intel's poor attempt at a low-power CPU, intended for embedded devices. They're sick of ARM kicking their arse in that market. It runs the same x86 instruction set as modern Intel laptop/desktop chips. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intel_Atom Works fine for me, it's just JOSM I am struggling with. ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
Re: [talk-au] Fwd: [OSM-talk] How to tag giant acorn?
2009/8/28 Sam Couter s...@couter.id.au: Atom is Intel's poor attempt at a low-power CPU, intended for embedded devices. They're sick of ARM kicking their arse in that market. It runs the same x86 instruction set as modern Intel laptop/desktop chips. Fair enough, I just checked and the eeePC I have has a celeron 900Mhz chip in it. I thought it was underclocked but /proc/cpuinfo states cpu MHz: 897.8 so I guess it's not under clocked but I didn't do anything I can think of that would have upped the clock speed, maybe changing from xandros to debian did it. ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
Re: [talk-au] Fwd: [OSM-talk] How to tag giant acorn?
2009/8/28 Cosmic Charade cosmichar...@gmail.com: I use Ubuntu with xfce so a similar setup but it runs like a dog on mine for some reason maybe I installed the wrong version of Java or I need to run with some command line options? I don't know if this is relevent to you or not, but unlike Ubuntu, Debian has an eeePC branch with kernel patches applied from the Asus eeePC repositories which makes the eeePCs function better than running a stock kernel. http://wiki.debian.org/DebianEeePC/HowTo/Install http://debian-eeepc.alioth.debian.org/ ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
Re: [talk-au] Fwd: [OSM-talk] How to tag giant acorn?
On Wed, 26 Aug 2009, Cosmic Charade wrote: OSM however is stalling woefully on my humble 2GB Atom powered Ubuntu netbook. Has anyone had any success with JOSM on such a platform? yes, but I use debian and xfce as desktop. however the screen is so small you need to learn about fullscreen, the keyboard shortcuts and see the optometrist as well ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
Re: [talk-au] Fwd: [OSM-talk] How to tag giant acorn?
Liz wrote: On Wed, 26 Aug 2009, Cosmic Charade wrote: yes, but I use debian and xfce as desktop. however the screen is so small you need to learn about fullscreen, the keyboard shortcuts and see the optometrist as well I use Ubuntu with xfce so a similar setup but it runs like a dog on mine for some reason maybe I installed the wrong version of Java or I need to run with some command line options? ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
Re: [talk-au] Fwd: [OSM-talk] How to tag giant acorn?
2009/8/23 David Clarke gadic...@pnambic.org That's cutting in to our big attractions. So what're we left with, the big potato, merino, trout and oyster? Big gallah in SA somewhere too (around Kimba? I don't remember...) Big lobster *somewhere*. I know I've seen it, but buggered if I know where. Does the Golden Guitar or whatever in Tamworth count? I'm sure there are a heap of others too. I don't think we're running out of big things just yet. ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
Re: [talk-au] Fwd: [OSM-talk] How to tag giant acorn?
Big lobster is in Kingston, SE South Australia. 2009/8/25 Jason Stirk jst...@oobleyboo.com 2009/8/23 David Clarke gadic...@pnambic.org That's cutting in to our big attractions. So what're we left with, the big potato, merino, trout and oyster? Big gallah in SA somewhere too (around Kimba? I don't remember...) Big lobster *somewhere*. I know I've seen it, but buggered if I know where. Does the Golden Guitar or whatever in Tamworth count? I'm sure there are a heap of others too. I don't think we're running out of big things just yet. ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
Re: [talk-au] Fwd: [OSM-talk] How to tag giant acorn?
On 23/08/2009 11:55pm, John Smith delta_foxt...@yahoo.com wrote: That's cutting in to our big attractions. So what're we left with, the big potato, merino, trout and oyster? A good reference for these big attractions is http://www.bigthings.com.au/. I dont' think we would run out anytime soon. I saw the kerfuffle about Balina's Big Prawn on the 7 PM Project and that it would be moved to a new service station. ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
Re: [talk-au] Fwd: [OSM-talk] How to tag giant acorn?
My Dad knew the guy who made the big lobster. Although that has no relevance to this discussion, I'd just like to claim my non existent fame. regards Paul :) From: talk-au-boun...@openstreetmap.org [mailto:talk-au-boun...@openstreetmap.org] On Behalf Of Cameron Sent: Tuesday, 25 August 2009 11:27 To: Jason Stirk Cc: talk-au@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [talk-au] Fwd: [OSM-talk] How to tag giant acorn? Big lobster is in Kingston, SE South Australia. 2009/8/25 Jason Stirk jst...@oobleyboo.commailto:jst...@oobleyboo.com 2009/8/23 David Clarke gadic...@pnambic.orgmailto:gadic...@pnambic.org That's cutting in to our big attractions. So what're we left with, the big potato, merino, trout and oyster? Big gallah in SA somewhere too (around Kimba? I don't remember...) Big lobster *somewhere*. I know I've seen it, but buggered if I know where. Does the Golden Guitar or whatever in Tamworth count? I'm sure there are a heap of others too. I don't think we're running out of big things just yet. ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.orgmailto:Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au Notice: The information contained in this email message and any attached files may be confidential information, and may also be the subject of legal professional privilege. If you are not the intended recipient any use, disclosure or copying of this email is unauthorised. If you received this email in error, please notify the DEEWR Service Desk by calling (02) 6240 and delete all copies of this transmission together with any attachments. ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
Re: [talk-au] Fwd: [OSM-talk] How to tag giant acorn?
Jason Stirk jst...@oobleyboo.com writes: At Ballina, and it's been announced in the last week or so that it will be demolished some time soon, as it's in really bad nick. That's cutting in to our big attractions. So what're we left with, the big potato, merino, trout and oyster? ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
Re: [talk-au] Fwd: [OSM-talk] How to tag giant acorn?
--- On Sun, 23/8/09, David Clarke gadic...@pnambic.org wrote: That's cutting in to our big attractions. So what're we left with, the big potato, merino, trout and oyster? The owners of the big pineapple (one near Nambour) were on tv the other day complaining about it being heritage listed which would limit remodeling and what not. ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
[talk-au] Fwd: [OSM-talk] How to tag giant acorn?
-- Forwarded Message -- Subject: [OSM-talk] How to tag giant acorn? Date: Wed, 12 Aug 2009 From: Kate maps2w...@gmail.com To: openstreetmap t...@openstreetmap.org At the last DC mapping party in Silver Spring, Maryland, I came across a giant acorn that should be marked on OSM, but not sure the best way to tag it: http://www.flickr.com/photos/kmf164/3814667470/ Also, how we should tag attractions like the world's largest strawberry in Strawberry Point, Iowa: http://www.roadsideamerica.com/salad/strawberry.html -Kate great opportunity here there's a nice giant strawberry just south of Tocumwal http://www.thebigstrawberry.com.au/ and another one on the sunshine coast http://www.bigthings.com.au/s.htm ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
Re: [talk-au] Fwd: [OSM-talk] How to tag giant acorn?
--- On Wed, 12/8/09, Liz ed...@billiau.net wrote: great opportunity here there's a nice giant strawberry just south of Tocumwal http://www.thebigstrawberry.com.au/ Big banana at coffs, big prawn somewhere else along the pacific highway, big oyster also along the pacific highway. The big banana is what started it all off, world wide too I think, but it was made by an American. and another one on the sunshine coast http://www.bigthings.com.au/s.htm Free entry to go inside it too, so you can get a clear reading from the top of it :) Actually it's not far from Nambour, the guys coming up from Brisbane will most likely be going past it. ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
Re: [talk-au] Fwd: [OSM-talk] How to tag giant acorn?
Free entry to go inside it too, so you can get a clear reading from the top of it :) Actually it's not far from Nambour, the guys coming up from Brisbane will most likely be going past it. I was talking about the big pineapple, sorry, I'll see if I can detour to do the big shell on the way down. ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
Re: [talk-au] Fwd: [OSM-talk] How to tag giant acorn?
I was talking about the big pineapple, sorry, I'll see if I can detour to do the big shell on the way down. The big pineapple in Gympie was torn down last year because of the road was being upgraded to dual carriage way and the council was too cheap to move it to some other site. ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
Re: [talk-au] Fwd: [OSM-talk] How to tag giant acorn?
2009/8/12 John Smith delta_foxt...@yahoo.com big prawn somewhere else along the pacific highway At Ballina, and it's been announced in the last week or so that it will be demolished some time soon, as it's in really bad nick. Not sure when though. ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
