Re: [talk-au] Fwd: [OSM-talk] Most of Busselton deleted
Thank you, Arie. ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
Re: [talk-au] Fwd: [OSM-talk] Most of Busselton deleted
This could have been an accident, not malicious damage. When I was editing streets in my home suburb, mainly just adding in street names, I needed to cut a street at a node because it changes its name. Somewhere along the way, the street disappeared. When I edited it (using Potlatch), the street was still there, but never showed up in the rendered version. I tried making subtle changes to force it to save the changes but to no avail. I eventually deleted the street entirely, saved the change, and replaced the street (from Yahoo) a few hours later. I suspect Potlatch may have some hidden bugs that only show up under certain odd conditions. I've done a lot of editing (in Potlatch and JOSM) since then, and have never had the same problem. It could be that the problem only occurs when you do a few small changes, save them and wait to see the result - just the sort of thing a novice user would do. Richard John Smith wrote: -- Forwarded message -- From: Apollinaris Schoell ascho...@gmail.com Date: 2 February 2010 17:22 Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] [talk-au] Most of Busselton deleted To: John Smith deltafoxtrot...@gmail.com Cc: Arie Paap wildmy...@gmail.com, Talk Openstreetmap t...@openstreetmap.org will do it, no conflicts detected in dry run edit definitely looks destruction done by a newbie please notify the user why this has been done and explain how to edit. On 1 Feb 2010, at 21:54 , John Smith wrote: I've forwarded a copy of your email to the main talk list, some people have scripts to be able to easily revert changes but I don't have anything set up at present. On 2 February 2010 15:45, Arie Paap wildmy...@gmail.com wrote: Can someone suggest how to deal with this kind of vandalism: Most of Busselton appears to have been deleted by user MAA on 31/1/2010. See following links: http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=-33.6573lon=115.3547zoom=12layers=B000FTFT http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/MAA/edits http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/changeset/3756449 Is there an easy way to revert this kind of changeset? Arie ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au ___ talk mailing list t...@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
Re: [talk-au] Fwd: [OSM-talk] Most of Busselton deleted
Something similar happened in my region recently, someone new to josm managed to turn a park around 100m across into a 2km diameter circle, and mangled the ways nearby. A quick email to the user revealed he was new to josm and wasnt even aware of what he had done. Fortunately the mess was easily fixed, but luckily I contacted the bloke, and he was apologetic and continues to ask questions to learn how to use osm/josm better. Sometimes the diplomatic approach can be best. David On Tue, 2010-02-02 at 23:08 +1100, Richard Colless wrote: This could have been an accident, not malicious damage. When I was editing streets in my home suburb, mainly just adding in street names, I needed to cut a street at a node because it changes its name. Somewhere along the way, the street disappeared. When I edited it (using Potlatch), the street was still there, but never showed up in the rendered version. I tried making subtle changes to force it to save the changes but to no avail. I eventually deleted the street entirely, saved the change, and replaced the street (from Yahoo) a few hours later. I suspect Potlatch may have some hidden bugs that only show up under certain odd conditions. I've done a lot of editing (in Potlatch and JOSM) since then, and have never had the same problem. It could be that the problem only occurs when you do a few small changes, save them and wait to see the result - just the sort of thing a novice user would do. Richard John Smith wrote: -- Forwarded message -- From: Apollinaris Schoell ascho...@gmail.com Date: 2 February 2010 17:22 Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] [talk-au] Most of Busselton deleted To: John Smith deltafoxtrot...@gmail.com Cc: Arie Paap wildmy...@gmail.com, Talk Openstreetmap t...@openstreetmap.org will do it, no conflicts detected in dry run edit definitely looks destruction done by a newbie please notify the user why this has been done and explain how to edit. On 1 Feb 2010, at 21:54 , John Smith wrote: I've forwarded a copy of your email to the main talk list, some people have scripts to be able to easily revert changes but I don't have anything set up at present. On 2 February 2010 15:45, Arie Paap wildmy...@gmail.com wrote: Can someone suggest how to deal with this kind of vandalism: Most of Busselton appears to have been deleted by user MAA on 31/1/2010. See following links: http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=-33.6573lon=115.3547zoom=12layers=B000FTFT http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/MAA/edits http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/changeset/3756449 Is there an easy way to revert this kind of changeset? Arie ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au ___ talk mailing list t...@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
Re: [talk-au] Fwd: [OSM-talk] Most of Busselton deleted
I have also sent a message to the user regarding what happened and some links to help on editing. In this particular case a large number of ways were deleted (as you can see from the changeset) and reverting seemed to me the best way to fix up the damage to the map. Arie On Wed, Feb 3, 2010 at 6:13 AM, David Murn da...@incanberra.com.au wrote: Something similar happened in my region recently, someone new to josm managed to turn a park around 100m across into a 2km diameter circle, and mangled the ways nearby. A quick email to the user revealed he was new to josm and wasnt even aware of what he had done. Fortunately the mess was easily fixed, but luckily I contacted the bloke, and he was apologetic and continues to ask questions to learn how to use osm/josm better. Sometimes the diplomatic approach can be best. David ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
