Re: [talk-au] Newbie intro

2009-08-24 Thread Matt White
John Smith wrote:
 --- On Sun, 23/8/09, Liz ed...@billiau.net wrote:

 They still don't agree with us, they still think it's just another smoothness 
 option, except for those from Iceland maybe.
   
Don't get me started on the absolute uselessness of the smoothness tag...

Matt

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[talk-au] Newbie intro

2009-08-23 Thread Appleton Dale
G'day all,

A quick introduction, I'm starting out mapping the blank bits of  
country Victoria round my place, including some of the National Parks  
nearby.  I'm using a combination of iPhone, various Garmin receivers  
and the odd Trimble to do the work.

I've been enjoying reading the discussion on the status of 4WD  
tracks. Here in Vic there are three legal classes of tracks within  
National Parks and State forests: Management Vehicles Only  (MVO),  
seasonally closed and open.  All other signs (4WD, dry weather only)  
are advisory and have no legal status.  I'm not sure how this would  
be best reflected in OSM!

I look forward to learning heaps more here.

Cheers
H



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Re: [talk-au] Newbie intro

2009-08-23 Thread Liz
On Sun, 23 Aug 2009, Appleton Dale wrote:
 G'day all,

 A quick introduction, I'm starting out mapping the blank bits of
 country Victoria round my place, including some of the National Parks
 nearby.  I'm using a combination of iPhone, various Garmin receivers
 and the odd Trimble to do the work.

 I've been enjoying reading the discussion on the status of 4WD
 tracks. Here in Vic there are three legal classes of tracks within
 National Parks and State forests: Management Vehicles Only  (MVO),
 seasonally closed and open.  All other signs (4WD, dry weather only)
 are advisory and have no legal status.  I'm not sure how this would
 be best reflected in OSM!

 I look forward to learning heaps more here.

 Cheers
 H



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Re: [talk-au] Newbie intro

2009-08-23 Thread Liz
On Sun, 23 Aug 2009, Appleton Dale wrote:
 G'day all,

 A quick introduction, I'm starting out mapping the blank bits of
 country Victoria round my place, including some of the National Parks
 nearby.  I'm using a combination of iPhone, various Garmin receivers
 and the odd Trimble to do the work.

 I've been enjoying reading the discussion on the status of 4WD
 tracks. Here in Vic there are three legal classes of tracks within
 National Parks and State forests: Management Vehicles Only  (MVO),
 seasonally closed and open.  All other signs (4WD, dry weather only)
 are advisory and have no legal status.  I'm not sure how this would
 be best reflected in OSM!

 I look forward to learning heaps more here.

 Cheers
 H


sorry, i hit send on the wrong email

welcome aboard
we need more thinking about seasonal and unseasonal uses of roads, and other 
restrictions like 4wd_only; dry_weather_only

so management vehicles only (and i presume fire trucks too) is another 
important restriction.
whether it is legal or advisory is important to Germanic thinkers, less to us.
Now we understand better how we get those Europeans doing stupid things on our 
roads - it wasn't illegal, it was only advisory :-$


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Re: [talk-au] Newbie intro

2009-08-23 Thread John Smith
--- On Sun, 23/8/09, Liz ed...@billiau.net wrote:

 welcome aboard
 we need more thinking about seasonal and unseasonal uses of
 roads, and other 
 restrictions like 4wd_only; dry_weather_only

4wd_only is now a valid tag :) 

Want to go 2 from 2? :)

 so management vehicles only (and i presume fire trucks too)
 is another 
 important restriction.

I assume that would just be an access=private tag, even though it's crown land 
it's still considered as owned by NPWS usually.

 whether it is legal or advisory is important to Germanic
 thinkers, less to us.

In a very strict sense, these dry_weather/4wd_only signs could be used to fine 
someone, like the sign you posted a link to showing all road damage will be 
paid for by anyone screwing up the road in wet weather.

 Now we understand better how we get those Europeans doing
 stupid things on our 
 roads - it wasn't illegal, it was only advisory :-$

They still don't agree with us, they still think it's just another smoothness 
option, except for those from Iceland maybe.


  

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