Re: [talk-au] Removing ABS data
Ben, It appears that ABS data that is inland may connect to the coastline but doesn't continue along it with the same way. Therefore I'm pretty sure that if you are carefull not to actually click on the coastline at all, then you will be quite safe. Happy cleaning Nick ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
Re: [talk-au] Removing ABS data
Sam Wilson s...@archives.org.au wrote: All good points, Nick. Thanks. Except for the childish dark side comments. Nick, please accept that people have their reasons for declining the CTs, just as you presumably have your reasons for accepting. -- Sam Couter | mailto:s...@couter.id.au OpenPGP fingerprint: A46B 9BB5 3148 7BEA 1F05 5BD5 8530 03AE DE89 C75C signature.asc Description: Digital signature ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
Re: [talk-au] Removing ABS data
On Thu, December 29, 2011 9:56 am, Nick Hocking wrote: Sam wrote Is it necessary to remove that data now, before the big change-over date? 1. Is there not still a chance that people who have declined the new licence will change their minds, and accept? 2. Surely there's some magic in the works, that is going to swiftly and completely remove the non-compliant data for us? Yes, I think it is necessary to delete this data now... Firstly, the importer of this data has moved over to the dark side and seems to be relishing in the possible data loss to the OSM project. So there isn't a chance in hell of him accepting the CT's. Even if he did, I'm not sure the ABS data would be allowed to be relicenced under Odbl. And even if it was, this data is woefully out of date and now almost useless anyway. Also the ABS data appear as red dots and lines in Fredricks tainted data display and this masks out other bad data that needs to be removed and either remapped or OSM mappers good data recovered from history - where available. Also the places where people have mixed the ABS data with otherwise good data need to be looked at individually, now, to try to save as much good data as possible. Nick All good points, Nick. Thanks. I guess I've been hoping that it doesn't come down to individually looking at everything and manually fixing things... but it does (if we're to save as much data as possible) and so I'm quite happy to get cracking with it... :-) ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
Re: [talk-au] Removing ABS data
Ben wrote I'm particularly worried about large slabs of coastline disappearing. Ben, I'm avoiding touching the coastline since it does not get in my way for remapping roads and since I don't want to flood all of australia :-). I'll have a pretend delete session of ABS ways near coastlines tonight to see if it is easy to avoid the coastline. If not we'll have to split the way near the coast to isolate it from the coast before deleting it. I know for a fact that Frederick would love to be the one to finally get rid of that coastline and put a previous clean version in its place (which we could then improve from imagery over time). What I'm doing is deleting all the unedited ABS data (author is still ABS_2006) from an area which I will soon be cleaning. Then I wait for the OSM_inspector to remove their red dots/lines then I'm ready to work on that area. Any boundary data left in the area I try to recover clean tags from acceptors history and remap from imagery if available. If I can't then I just leave it for others or for the April rinse down. Cheers Nick PS don't worry about the broken boundary multipoligon relations, they can be removed holus-bolus any time later. ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au