Re: [talk-au] Use of mapconnect data in OSM [SEC=UNCLASSIFIED]
On 15 April 2015 at 23:01, Ross i...@4x4falcon.com wrote: The issue is not with the licence. The current terms and conditions require permission to add data not owned by the contributor. Is there a source for this statement? I was under the assumption that in order to contribute data (whether your own or someone else's) into OSM, the data must comply with the contributor terms. Although the CTs agree to always give attribution, this (probably) still isn't compatible with the attribution required by CC-BY and the provide a link to the license and indicate if changes were made clauses of CC-BY. So my thinking is for data to be added to OSM under the current CTs it needs to waive these requirements of CC-BY and settle for attribution only (and perhaps a specific form of attribution). As you point out though this data is upto 8 years old and in many cases there is probably better or more current data available eg Tasmanian Estate Reserve. CAPAD is seems pretty good, http://www.environment.gov.au/fed/catalog/search/resource/details.page?uuid=%7B4448CACD-9DA8-43D1-A48F-48149FD5FCFD%7D ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
Re: [talk-au] Use of mapconnect data in OSM [SEC=UNCLASSIFIED]
On 15/04/15 23:14, Andrew Harvey wrote: On 15 April 2015 at 23:01, Ross i...@4x4falcon.com mailto:i...@4x4falcon.com wrote: The issue is not with the licence. The current terms and conditions require permission to add data not owned by the contributor. Is there a source for this statement? Go back to all the discussions in the 12 months prior to the licence change. This was one of the major sticking points for a number of contributors. I was under the assumption that in order to contribute data (whether your own or someone else's) into OSM, the data must comply with the contributor terms. Although the CTs agree to always give attribution, this (probably) still isn't compatible with the attribution required by CC-BY and the provide a link to the license and indicate if changes were made clauses of CC-BY. So my thinking is for data to be added to OSM under the current CTs it needs to waive these requirements of CC-BY and settle for attribution only (and perhaps a specific form of attribution). As you point out though this data is upto 8 years old and in many cases there is probably better or more current data available eg Tasmanian Estate Reserve. CAPAD is seems pretty good, http://www.environment.gov.au/fed/catalog/search/resource/details.page?uuid=%7B4448CACD-9DA8-43D1-A48F-48149FD5FCFD%7D ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
Re: [talk-au] Use of mapconnect data in OSM [SEC=UNCLASSIFIED]
On 4/15/2015 6:01 AM, Ross wrote: Hi Simon, The issue is not with the licence. The current terms and conditions require permission to add data not owned by the contributor. This is incorrect. An appropriate license is sufficient. Some obviously appropriate licenses are CC0, PDDL, ODC-BY and the ODbL itself. The issue is that CC BY (and BY-SA) 2.0, 2.5 and 3.0 require a form of attribution that is not practical for most map uses, so we need permission. This would have been true even without the license change, as we were never meeting the requirements of those versions of CC BY. We have permission for many Australian sources, and I believe for all CC BY Australian sources that were in use at the time of the license change. ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
Re: [talk-au] Use of mapconnect data in OSM [SEC=UNCLASSIFIED]
The data in Mapconnect can be up to 8 years old. It originally came from both CAPAD and the states/territories, and was generalised to be consistent with a cartographic map at a scale of 1:250,000. CAPAD has come from the states / territories, and probably from the national park authorities rather than the mapping agency. There will be differences. I would also be keen to hear what the limitations in the CCBY licence is. If you want to use the data in Mapconnect then I can chase up an alternative licence/permission to use if the current license doesn't work. Thanks, Simon Simon Costello Branch Head, National Location Information | EGD Management Environmental Geoscience Division | GEOSCIENCE AUSTRALIA Phone: +61 2 6249 9716tel:+61%202%206249%209716Fax: +61 2 6249 tel:+61%202%206249%20 Email: simon.coste...@ga.gov.aumailto:simon.coste...@ga.gov.auWeb: www.ga.gov.auhttp://www.ga.gov.au/ Cnr Jerrabomberra Avenue and Hindmarsh Drive Symonston ACT GPO Box 378 Canberra ACT 2601 Australiax-apple-data-detectors://3 Applying geoscience to Australia's most important challenges On 7 Apr 2015, at 10:03 pm, talk-au-requ...@openstreetmap.orgmailto:talk-au-requ...@openstreetmap.org talk-au-requ...@openstreetmap.orgmailto:talk-au-requ...@openstreetmap.org wrote: Send Talk-au mailing list submissions to talk-au@openstreetmap.orgmailto:talk-au@openstreetmap.org To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to talk-au-requ...@openstreetmap.orgmailto:talk-au-requ...@openstreetmap.org You can reach the person managing the list at talk-au-ow...@openstreetmap.orgmailto:talk-au-ow...@openstreetmap.org When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than Re: Contents of Talk-au digest... Today's Topics: 1. Re: Use of mapconnect data in OSM (Andrew Harvey) 2. Re: Use of mapconnect data in OSM (Ross) 3. Use of mapconnect data in OSM (Ross) (Warren) mime-attachment mime-attachment mime-attachment ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.orgmailto:Talk-au@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au Geoscience Australia Disclaimer: This e-mail (and files transmitted with it) is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed. If you are not the intended recipient, then you have received this e-mail by mistake and any use, dissemination, forwarding, printing or copying of this e-mail and its file attachments is prohibited. The security of emails transmitted cannot be guaranteed; by forwarding or replying to this email, you acknowledge and accept these risks. - ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
