Re: [talk-au] boundary=aboriginal_lands ( Was Re: admin_level, suburbs and rendering; should the order be updated?)
Looks like the issues are well-at-hand and being discussed. Cheers, ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
Re: [talk-au] boundary=aboriginal_lands ( Was Re: admin_level, suburbs and rendering; should the order be updated?)
On Wed, Dec 1, 2021 at 2:03 PM Andrew Harvey wrote: > > If this is not disputed, it would be nice to update > https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Australian_Tagging_Guidelines#Australia.E2.80.99s_First_People > with this information otherwise it'll get lost over time in the archives > here. I am basing my interpretation on the tag proposal https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Tag:boundary%3Daboriginal_lands which says: "This proposal is for mapping the official reservation boundaries of recognized aboriginal / indigenous / native peoples" and explicitly states that it doesn't include: "Lands outside of reservations that are owned by aboriginal groups, but which do not have special legal status" "Areas outside of reservations where aboriginal groups may have special rights, such as traditional fishing or hunting grounds" The question would be how different from regular land titles would something have to be to make it "special"? ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
Re: [talk-au] boundary=aboriginal_lands ( Was Re: admin_level, suburbs and rendering; should the order be updated?)
If this is not disputed, it would be nice to update https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Australian_Tagging_Guidelines#Australia.E2.80.99s_First_People with this information otherwise it'll get lost over time in the archives here. On Tue, 30 Nov 2021 at 19:58, Andrew Davidson wrote: > On 30/11/21 17:51, stevea wrote: > > > > This is REALLY going to be different in Oz than USA, but please consider > boundary=aboriginal_lands. > > boundary=aboriginal_lands is not applicable to Australia for at least > two reasons: > > 1. Australia does not have a system of "reservations". Before the 1960s > there were Aboriginal reserve > (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aboriginal_reserve). But these no longer > exist for fairly obvious reasons. > > 2. Where Indigenous land rights have been recognised in Australia > (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indigenous_land_rights_in_Australia) this > is done by issuing a communally owned freehold or leasehold title. In > effect this is the same as anyone else who owns land in Australia. > > The other concept that seems to confuse mappers is the Indigenous > Protected Area > (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indigenous_Protected_Area). This is an > area protected by indigenous people rather than for protecting > indigenous people. The areas have a IUCN protection category so should > be protect_class 1-6. > > ___ > Talk-au mailing list > Talk-au@openstreetmap.org > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au > ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
[talk-au] boundary=aboriginal_lands ( Was Re: admin_level, suburbs and rendering; should the order be updated?)
On 30/11/21 17:51, stevea wrote: This is REALLY going to be different in Oz than USA, but please consider boundary=aboriginal_lands. boundary=aboriginal_lands is not applicable to Australia for at least two reasons: 1. Australia does not have a system of "reservations". Before the 1960s there were Aboriginal reserve (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aboriginal_reserve). But these no longer exist for fairly obvious reasons. 2. Where Indigenous land rights have been recognised in Australia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indigenous_land_rights_in_Australia) this is done by issuing a communally owned freehold or leasehold title. In effect this is the same as anyone else who owns land in Australia. The other concept that seems to confuse mappers is the Indigenous Protected Area (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indigenous_Protected_Area). This is an area protected by indigenous people rather than for protecting indigenous people. The areas have a IUCN protection category so should be protect_class 1-6. ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
