Re: [talk-au] data.qld.gov.au explicit permission request
On Thursday, December 5, 2013, Jason Ward wrote: Hi again, There has been a response from TMR and the necessary permission has been obtained (for their datasets accessiblehttps://data.qld.gov.au/organizationon the data.qld.gov.au portal). I have an administrative query to be cleared by TMR before I make any amendments to the Wiki. Its a start and the gtfs data will shortly be okay to use (once the attribution goes up). So, how would we like to approach this? Bus stop import and reconcile with existing data? Full routes? something else? I did a gtfs bus stop import for SA via a josm plugin, but managed to accidentally add a few doubled stops a year ago or so. I would probably look at a few custom tools to generate .osm files and avoid dupes this time around, so it can be repeatedly sync'd Happy to help write up the various import plans. ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
Re: [talk-au] data.qld.gov.au explicit permission request
The Wiki has been updated with the appropriate details. If anyone has any questions or amendments please go right ahead and ask. I've redacted an actual work address in the headers section of the attribution page as the original response came from the CIO of the Dept. The second response, now in the Wiki was presumably sent by his secretary rather than from the mailbox and it retained her details in the headers. If, in redacting her surname, this breaks the explicit permission then let me know and I'll request the same email from a mailbox (rather than by a user from that mailbox). Wiki page is here (Attribution link is in the 1st para): https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Attribution#Queensland_Government_data_.28Department_of_Transport_and_Main_Roads_-_TMR.29 Cheers, Jason ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
Re: [talk-au] data.qld.gov.au explicit permission request
Hi again, There has been a response from TMR and the necessary permission has been obtained (for their datasets accessiblehttps://data.qld.gov.au/organizationon the data.qld.gov.au portal). I have an administrative query to be cleared by TMR before I make any amendments to the Wiki. Its a start and the gtfs data will shortly be okay to use (once the attribution goes up). Unfortunately, the respondent has noted, at least from the position of TMR, that approval would need to be sourced from each dataset owner (see link above for that list). In an interesting and somewhat timely twist. Andrew Mills, the SA Govt CIO since 2007 commences as the Qld Government CIO in January 2014 so I guess that means, Watch this space. I'll be introducing myself to him in the New Year. Cheers, Jason ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
Re: [talk-au] data.qld.gov.au explicit permission request
Hi Jason, Nice work - any response? Steve On Fri, Nov 15, 2013 at 2:49 PM, Jason Ward jasonjwa...@gmail.com wrote: Hi everyone, My apologies if this has already been posted but I've just sent off a request to data.qld.gov.au for explicit permission to incorporate and publish their applicable datasets. I've provided them a link to the SA Government response to the same permission request so I hope it is just a formality that one of their legal eagles can complete. SA Link provided to them: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Attribution/sa.data.gov.au_explicit_permission I'm pretty new to OSM and figured I'd better not waste my effort already expended by not having this type of permission supplied. I know that the whole dataset is CC-BY-3.0 AU so I'm not even sure if my request is required (but I figure there is no harm in seeking it). -- Cheers, Jason ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
Re: [talk-au] data.qld.gov.au explicit permission request
Hi Team (thanks Steve), I called the 13QGOV number earlier this week and got referred to David from Transport and Main Roads which is where the online enquiry was manually referred to by a customer service rep. They were working on a TMR departmental response and in the online referral the context or information that the enquiry was for the whole dataset was lost (To the extent that David said the TMR response would cover only that departments dataset(s). Thankfully the phone call and my adding that the request was for everything in data.qld.gov.au means the TMR guy is including the whole-of-government person or entity in their response back to me. He said I'd get a written response the next day (I called on Wednesday). Nothing back from them yet but I'll call later next week to give them plenty of time and if I get the right person that can respond for the whole dataset rather than just one department (within the whole dataset) I'll get further traction with the request. That said, the TMR guy seemed to know and understand the background behind the request and when I offered to provide more information on the ODbL side of things he said that had already been discovered/addressed. I'll keep you in the loop of course and update the Wiki with any outcomes. On 1 December 2013 00:02, Steve Bennett stevag...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Jason, Nice work - any response? Steve On Fri, Nov 15, 2013 at 2:49 PM, Jason Ward jasonjwa...@gmail.com wrote: Hi everyone, My apologies if this has already been posted but I've just sent off a request to data.qld.gov.au for explicit permission to incorporate and publish their applicable datasets. I've provided them a link to the SA Government response to the same permission request so I hope it is just a formality that one of their legal eagles can complete. SA Link provided to them: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Attribution/sa.data.gov.au_explicit_permission I'm pretty new to OSM and figured I'd better not waste my effort already expended by not having this type of permission supplied. I know that the whole dataset is CC-BY-3.0 AU so I'm not even sure if my request is required (but I figure there is no harm in seeking it). -- Cheers, Jason ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au -- Cheers, Jason M: 0438740049 ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
[talk-au] data.qld.gov.au explicit permission request
Hi everyone, My apologies if this has already been posted but I've just sent off a request to data.qld.gov.au for explicit permission to incorporate and publish their applicable datasets. I've provided them a link to the SA Government response to the same permission request so I hope it is just a formality that one of their legal eagles can complete. SA Link provided to them: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Attribution/sa.data.gov.au_explicit_permission I'm pretty new to OSM and figured I'd better not waste my effort already expended by not having this type of permission supplied. I know that the whole dataset is CC-BY-3.0 AU so I'm not even sure if my request is required (but I figure there is no harm in seeking it). -- Cheers, Jason ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
