[talk-au] re Coastline rendering in Garmins Mapsource

2010-02-03 Thread John Kitchener
Seems Openmtbmap has recently got 'sea polygons' organized. :)

Here is a Mapsource Noosa view. It's not 100% for the entire coastline, but
it's pretty damn good.

http://img687.imageshack.us/img687/6421/noosamtb.jpg

Regards

John k




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Re: [talk-au] re Coastline rendering in Garmins Mapsource

2010-02-03 Thread Sean Williams
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Not only have they created sea polygons but they have turned the land
into polygons also.  The only way to do it.

John Kitchener wrote:
 Seems Openmtbmap has recently got 'sea polygons' organized. :)
 
 Here is a Mapsource Noosa view. It's not 100% for the entire coastline, but
 it's pretty damn good.
 
 http://img687.imageshack.us/img687/6421/noosamtb.jpg
 
 Regards
 
 John k
 
 
 
 
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Re: [talk-au] re Coastline rendering in Garmins Mapsource

2010-01-29 Thread Matt White
I sorted the maps today - stoopid downloads not working, and I obviously 
can't write a decent batch script to save my life

Would have fixed it earlier, but not at work to do so - Australia Day 
for me generally results in a hangover, as it's also my birthday

Matt

John Kitchener wrote:
 Matt wrote:

 Coastlines (and the inverse islands issues) have been ongoing for ages for
 the Mkgmap produced Garmin files. There's a --generate-sea switch for Mkgmap
 that sometimes works fine, other times, not so good. It's hit and miss
 enough that I've never enabled it for the maps I generate.

 Problem seems to come from a few different things - non-closed coastline
 polygons, coastline direction changes, points where rivers join
 sea/coastline etc.

 There's a lot of chat on the mkg-map dev list over the last 6 months or so
 regarding this.

 Matt
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 Thanks Matt. Without 'sea polygons' it'll remain a complete mess for Garmin
 displays. We need OSM to work in the 'real world' to accelerate uptake.

 Hopefully the --generate-sea- switch comes good in Mkgmap. Until then .

 John k

 PS The OsmAustralia downloads appear stuck at the 26/1 at 22b. Happy
 Australia Day. :)


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[talk-au] re Coastline rendering in Garmins Mapsource

2010-01-28 Thread John Kitchener
Matt wrote:

Coastlines (and the inverse islands issues) have been ongoing for ages for
the Mkgmap produced Garmin files. There's a --generate-sea switch for Mkgmap
that sometimes works fine, other times, not so good. It's hit and miss
enough that I've never enabled it for the maps I generate.

Problem seems to come from a few different things - non-closed coastline
polygons, coastline direction changes, points where rivers join
sea/coastline etc.

There's a lot of chat on the mkg-map dev list over the last 6 months or so
regarding this.

Matt
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Thanks Matt. Without 'sea polygons' it'll remain a complete mess for Garmin
displays. We need OSM to work in the 'real world' to accelerate uptake.

Hopefully the --generate-sea- switch comes good in Mkgmap. Until then .

John k

PS The OsmAustralia downloads appear stuck at the 26/1 at 22b. Happy
Australia Day. :)


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Re: [talk-au] re Coastline rendering in Garmins Mapsource

2010-01-28 Thread John Smith
This came up on the talk list:

http://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk/2010-January/047660.html

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Re: [talk-au] re Coastline rendering in Garmins Mapsource

2010-01-28 Thread John Henderson
John Smith wrote:
 This came up on the talk list:
 
 http://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk/2010-January/047660.html

Thanks John.  Later today I hope to get a chance to try some of those 
ideas out.

I'll post back any findings.

John H

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Re: [talk-au] re Coastline rendering in Garmins Mapsource

2010-01-28 Thread John Henderson
I wrote:

 Later today I hope to get a chance to try some of those ideas out.
 
 I'll post back any findings.

OK, I'm the first to admit I'm operating outside my knowledge comfort 
zone here.  But I've tried adding:

--generate-sea=polygons,no-sea-sectors,close-gaps=2000

to the mkgmap command, and I've added:

natural=sea [0x32 resolution 10]
natural=land [0x27 resolution 10]

as the first two lines of the mkgmap polygons style file.

There's no improvement in the rendering of the ocean.

As I'm making a Garmin map which includes New Zealand, I had a look 
there.  The same problem exists - the ocean looks like land.

John H

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Re: [talk-au] re Coastline rendering in Garmins Mapsource

2010-01-28 Thread John Smith
On 29 January 2010 14:18, John Henderson snow...@gmx.com wrote:
 as the first two lines of the mkgmap polygons style file.

 There's no improvement in the rendering of the ocean.

Read the thread I posted before, you have to tweak other things I think.

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Re: [talk-au] re Coastline rendering in Garmins Mapsource

2010-01-27 Thread Matt White
Coastlines (and the inverse islands issues) have been onging for ages 
for the mkgmap produced garmin files. There's a --generate-sea switch 
for mkgmap that sometimes works fine, other times, not so good. It's hit 
and miss enough that I've mever enabled it for the maps I generate

Problem seems to come from a few different things - non-closed coasline 
polygons, coastline direction changes, points where rivers join 
sea/coastline etc.

There's a lot of chat on the mkg-map dev list over the last 6 months or 
so regarding this

Matt

John Henderson wrote:
 John Kitchener wrote:
   
 Here's how it renders on an Oregon 300
 http://img695.imageshack.us/img695/2718/oregon300.jpg
 

 Using a different mkgmap style file and TYP file presumably to 
 generate the gmapsupp.img file.  They're highly configurable.  I've 
 started experimenting with them for the routable cycle maps I'm producing.

 We've still got that underlying problem with the coastline though.

 John H

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[talk-au] re Coastline rendering in Garmins Mapsource

2010-01-26 Thread John Kitchener
Here's how it renders on an Oregon 300
http://img695.imageshack.us/img695/2718/oregon300.jpg

Cheers John k


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Re: [talk-au] re Coastline rendering in Garmins Mapsource

2010-01-26 Thread John Henderson
John Kitchener wrote:
 Here's how it renders on an Oregon 300
 http://img695.imageshack.us/img695/2718/oregon300.jpg

Using a different mkgmap style file and TYP file presumably to 
generate the gmapsupp.img file.  They're highly configurable.  I've 
started experimenting with them for the routable cycle maps I'm producing.

We've still got that underlying problem with the coastline though.

John H

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Re: [talk-au] re Coastline rendering in Garmins Mapsource

2010-01-26 Thread John Smith
How is the garmin util converting from osm2garmin format?

There is shape files which are error checkef before mapnik renders tiles...

On 1/27/10, John Henderson snow...@gmx.com wrote:
 John Kitchener wrote:
 Here's how it renders on an Oregon 300
 http://img695.imageshack.us/img695/2718/oregon300.jpg

 Using a different mkgmap style file and TYP file presumably to
 generate the gmapsupp.img file.  They're highly configurable.  I've
 started experimenting with them for the routable cycle maps I'm producing.

 We've still got that underlying problem with the coastline though.

 John H

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