Re: [talk-au] How to tag swimming pontoons

[Andrew Davidson]

On 28/01/17 10:43, Graeme Fitzpatrick wrote:

consist of a floating boom suspending an underwater net, surrounding the
designated area.


Turns out I can't read  If it's got a net then I guess it's barrier=net.

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Re: [talk-au] How to tag swimming pontoons

[Andrew Davidson]

Is there something underneath eg: a net?

One suggestion is barrier=boom (there's 30 of these):

https://help.openstreetmap.org/questions/37418/tag-line-of-floating-buoys-near-weir-or-dam

other people have used barrier=net (423 of these) or barrier=shark_net 
(6 of these).


On 28/01/17 10:43, Graeme Fitzpatrick wrote:

Continuing on with swimming areas, we've got a few on the GC that
consist of a floating boom suspending an underwater net, surrounding the
designated area. One of them then has a swimming raft in it:

http://www.goldcoastkids.com.au/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/beaches-the-broadwater-blog-header.jpg

In OSM, the boom's are currently marked as fences:

http://www.openstreetmap.org/edit#map=18/-27.96790/153.41779, which
doesn't really seem right?

I can see reference in the wiki to an oil-boom, which is a floating boom
to contain oil spills, but not really appropriate.

Don't know if they'd be a pontoon either, because you can't really climb
up on it.

Any thoughts?

Graeme



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On 27 January 2017 at 06:23, Max Bainrot > wrote:

The swimming raft describes it exactly

man_made=pontoon was my first thought but wasn't sure (was checking
on a mobile device on the bus) so I'll use that.

With tagging the ladder, the pontoons can rotate a fair bit so how
sensitive is the position of something like a ladder?

Swimming area is also something I plan on marking as these swimming
areas do have buoys on like a cable around the perimeter marking the
boundary.

Thank you to everyone for their input so far, the help is very much
appreciated.


On 26 Jan. 2017 21:14, "Andrew Davidson" > wrote:

On 25/01/17 22:05, Andrew Harvey wrote:


As for the pontoon, per
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:man_made%3Dpier
 "The
man_made=pier tag is used for a raised walkway over water
supported by
pillars made of metal/wood, or floating and secured using
chains",
plus floating=yes


It would depend on whether we are talking about a floating jetty:

http://www.letsonslanding.com/images/IMG_4212dock_wide.jpg


or what our American friends would call a swimming raft:

http://manitoulincedar.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/03/swim-raft-2013.jpg



The first one is a pier but the second one isn't.

It seems that there are two ways to tag a swimming raft. The
first is from OpenSeaMap seamark:type=pontoon

https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:seamark:type%3Dpontoon


There's 36 of these. The other is man_made=pontoon (There's 87
of these).


On 26/01/17 10:25, Graeme Fitzpatrick wrote:
> Would you then mark the inside of the pontoon as a swimming pool?
>
> Could you mark a swimming pool in the middle of a lake?
>

Maybe swimming_area

https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:leisure%3Dswimming_area
 ?


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Re: [talk-au] How to tag swimming pontoons

[Graeme Fitzpatrick]

Continuing on with swimming areas, we've got a few on the GC that consist
of a floating boom suspending an underwater net, surrounding the designated
area. One of them then has a swimming raft in it:

http://www.goldcoastkids.com.au/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/beaches-the-broadwater-blog-header.jpg

In OSM, the boom's are currently marked as fences:

http://www.openstreetmap.org/edit#map=18/-27.96790/153.41779, which doesn't
really seem right?

I can see reference in the wiki to an oil-boom, which is a floating boom to
contain oil spills, but not really appropriate.

Don't know if they'd be a pontoon either, because you can't really climb up
on it.

Any thoughts?

Graeme



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Graeme
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0407 754321

On 27 January 2017 at 06:23, Max Bainrot  wrote:

> The swimming raft describes it exactly
>
> man_made=pontoon was my first thought but wasn't sure (was checking on a
> mobile device on the bus) so I'll use that.
>
> With tagging the ladder, the pontoons can rotate a fair bit so how
> sensitive is the position of something like a ladder?
>
> Swimming area is also something I plan on marking as these swimming areas
> do have buoys on like a cable around the perimeter marking the boundary.
>
> Thank you to everyone for their input so far, the help is very much
> appreciated.
>
>
> On 26 Jan. 2017 21:14, "Andrew Davidson"  wrote:
>
> On 25/01/17 22:05, Andrew Harvey wrote:
>
>
>> As for the pontoon, per
>> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:man_made%3Dpier "The
>> man_made=pier tag is used for a raised walkway over water supported by
>> pillars made of metal/wood, or floating and secured using chains",
>> plus floating=yes
>>
>>
> It would depend on whether we are talking about a floating jetty:
>
> http://www.letsonslanding.com/images/IMG_4212dock_wide.jpg
>
> or what our American friends would call a swimming raft:
>
> http://manitoulincedar.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/03/swim-raft-2013.jpg
>
> The first one is a pier but the second one isn't.
>
> It seems that there are two ways to tag a swimming raft. The first is from
> OpenSeaMap seamark:type=pontoon
>
> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:seamark:type%3Dpontoon
>
> There's 36 of these. The other is man_made=pontoon (There's 87 of these).
>
>
> On 26/01/17 10:25, Graeme Fitzpatrick wrote:
> > Would you then mark the inside of the pontoon as a swimming pool?
> >
> > Could you mark a swimming pool in the middle of a lake?
> >
>
> Maybe swimming_area
>
> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:leisure%3Dswimming_area ?
>
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Re: [talk-au] How to tag swimming pontoons

[Max Bainrot]

The swimming raft describes it exactly

man_made=pontoon was my first thought but wasn't sure (was checking on a
mobile device on the bus) so I'll use that.

With tagging the ladder, the pontoons can rotate a fair bit so how
sensitive is the position of something like a ladder?

Swimming area is also something I plan on marking as these swimming areas
do have buoys on like a cable around the perimeter marking the boundary.

Thank you to everyone for their input so far, the help is very much
appreciated.

On 26 Jan. 2017 21:14, "Andrew Davidson"  wrote:

On 25/01/17 22:05, Andrew Harvey wrote:


> As for the pontoon, per
> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:man_made%3Dpier "The
> man_made=pier tag is used for a raised walkway over water supported by
> pillars made of metal/wood, or floating and secured using chains",
> plus floating=yes
>
>
It would depend on whether we are talking about a floating jetty:

http://www.letsonslanding.com/images/IMG_4212dock_wide.jpg

or what our American friends would call a swimming raft:

http://manitoulincedar.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/03/swim-raft-2013.jpg

The first one is a pier but the second one isn't.

It seems that there are two ways to tag a swimming raft. The first is from
OpenSeaMap seamark:type=pontoon

https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:seamark:type%3Dpontoon

There's 36 of these. The other is man_made=pontoon (There's 87 of these).


On 26/01/17 10:25, Graeme Fitzpatrick wrote:
> Would you then mark the inside of the pontoon as a swimming pool?
>
> Could you mark a swimming pool in the middle of a lake?
>

Maybe swimming_area

https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:leisure%3Dswimming_area ?


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Re: [talk-au] How to tag swimming pontoons

[Andrew Davidson]

On 25/01/17 22:05, Andrew Harvey wrote:



As for the pontoon, per
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:man_made%3Dpier "The
man_made=pier tag is used for a raised walkway over water supported by
pillars made of metal/wood, or floating and secured using chains",
plus floating=yes



It would depend on whether we are talking about a floating jetty:

http://www.letsonslanding.com/images/IMG_4212dock_wide.jpg

or what our American friends would call a swimming raft:

http://manitoulincedar.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/03/swim-raft-2013.jpg

The first one is a pier but the second one isn't.

It seems that there are two ways to tag a swimming raft. The first is 
from OpenSeaMap seamark:type=pontoon


https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:seamark:type%3Dpontoon

There's 36 of these. The other is man_made=pontoon (There's 87 of these).

On 26/01/17 10:25, Graeme Fitzpatrick wrote:
> Would you then mark the inside of the pontoon as a swimming pool?
>
> Could you mark a swimming pool in the middle of a lake?
>

Maybe swimming_area

https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:leisure%3Dswimming_area ?

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Re: [talk-au] How to tag swimming pontoons

[Warin]

On 26-Jan-17 10:25 AM, Graeme Fitzpatrick wrote:

Would you then mark the inside of the pontoon as a swimming pool?

Could you mark a swimming pool in the middle of a lake?


No Limits?

You could mark a swimming pool anywhere ... and provided it is a 
'swimming pool' then it would be correct to mark is as such.






On 25 January 2017 at 21:05, Andrew Harvey > wrote:


I would tag the ladder as a node per
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:ladder
.

As for the pontoon, per
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:man_made%3Dpier
 "The
man_made=pier tag is used for a raised walkway over water supported by
pillars made of metal/wood, or floating and secured using chains",
plus floating=yes

On 25 January 2017 at 18:24, Max Bainrot > wrote:
> Hi all
>
> Quick question
>
> How does one map a swimming pontoon? Our local lake has two
beaches that has
> them.
>
> They consist of a floating platform with a ladder to one side
and are
> anchored to the bottom of the lake and are mostly static
although they do
> move and rotate a little.
>
> Cheers
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Re: [talk-au] How to tag swimming pontoons

[Graeme Fitzpatrick]

Would you then mark the inside of the pontoon as a swimming pool?

Could you mark a swimming pool in the middle of a lake?



On 25 January 2017 at 21:05, Andrew Harvey  wrote:

> I would tag the ladder as a node per
> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:ladder.
>
> As for the pontoon, per
> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:man_made%3Dpier "The
> man_made=pier tag is used for a raised walkway over water supported by
> pillars made of metal/wood, or floating and secured using chains",
> plus floating=yes
>
> On 25 January 2017 at 18:24, Max Bainrot  wrote:
> > Hi all
> >
> > Quick question
> >
> > How does one map a swimming pontoon? Our local lake has two beaches that
> has
> > them.
> >
> > They consist of a floating platform with a ladder to one side and are
> > anchored to the bottom of the lake and are mostly static although they do
> > move and rotate a little.
> >
> > Cheers
> > Max
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Re: [talk-au] How to tag swimming pontoons

[Andrew Harvey]

I would tag the ladder as a node per
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:ladder.

As for the pontoon, per
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:man_made%3Dpier "The
man_made=pier tag is used for a raised walkway over water supported by
pillars made of metal/wood, or floating and secured using chains",
plus floating=yes

On 25 January 2017 at 18:24, Max Bainrot  wrote:
> Hi all
>
> Quick question
>
> How does one map a swimming pontoon? Our local lake has two beaches that has
> them.
>
> They consist of a floating platform with a ladder to one side and are
> anchored to the bottom of the lake and are mostly static although they do
> move and rotate a little.
>
> Cheers
> Max
>
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