Re: [talk-au] NSW LPI address import
I've fixed all the bugs I know about in the script now. I have included an updated README in the same branch as the bug fixes for the script, so they will all arrive together when it is merged. On 18/2/19 10:47 am, Dion Moult wrote: > G'day Joel! > > Yes, suburbs sit in that folder for a minimum of 2 weeks to allow peer > comments, and then we upload if there are no issues. > > You can read more here: > > https://gitlab.com/dionmoult/osm-nsw-address-import > > daviewales is working on some great scripts to improve the import > process, so we might need to update the README :) > > Sent from ProtonMail mobile > > > > Original Message > On 17 Feb. 2019, 11:55 pm, Joel H. < jo...@disroot.org> wrote: > > > If all is well with the data, Do we upload? > > P.S. I'm still in the middle of Brisbane City's import, so I can't > help right now, But I'll jump in later in the month. > > > On 11/2/19 7:28 am, Dion Moult wrote: >> Hey talk-au, >> >> This is just a reminder that the NSW LPI address import project is >> still going on, and that you can review any datasets in the >> following repo. Some of the manual steps have been automated a >> little bit more thanks to great work by David Wales, but it is >> still a human review process at the end of the day so we are doing >> a bit here a bit there. >> >> https://gitlab.com/dionmoult/osm-nsw-address-import/tree/master/review >> >> Gitlab has a subscribe feature somewhere I think. >> >> A list of suburbs that are currently in the review directory are >> as follows: >> >> Camellia, Concord West, Denistone East, Denistone West, Denistone, >> East Ryde, Galston, Harris Park, Liberty Grove, Meadowbank, >> Melrose Park, Newington, North Ryde, Tahmoor. >> >> Sent from ProtonMail mobile >> >> >> >> Original Message >> On 18 Dec. 2018, 11:07 pm, David Wales < daviewa...@disroot.org> >> wrote: >> >> >> Thanks Dion, >> >> I'll get back to the repo in the next day or so. I had a quick >> look, and it seemed pretty comprehensive, but I haven't had a >> chance to try it out yet. >> >> Andrew, I could make a custom OsmAnd map with address data, >> but it would spoil the point of using OsmAnd for me! I use it >> because it motivates me to improve Open Street Map! >> >> On 18 December 2018 12:05:28 am AEDT, Andrew Harvey >> wrote: >> >> On Mon, 17 Dec 2018 at 23:38, Dion Moult >> wrote: >> >> I also use OsmAnd a lot and lack of addresses is a big >> bugbear! Admittedly sometimes I cheat and search for >> the address on an app called "Transportr" on the >> F-Droid store before I do my routing in OsmAnd, but I >> digress. >> >> >> You could process the GNAF address points data into OsmAnd using >> [1] >> and [2], so you get full address support without needing to >> actually >> import anything into OSM. I did this and it works okay. >> >> [1] https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/OsmAndMapCreator >> [2] https://github.com/openaddresses/oa2osm >> >> >> Talk-au mailing list >> Talk-au@openstreetmap.org >> https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au >> >> >> ___ >> Talk-au mailing list >> Talk-au@openstreetmap.org >> https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au > > > ___ > Talk-au mailing list > Talk-au@openstreetmap.org > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au > signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
Re: [talk-au] NSW LPI address import
G'day Joel! Yes, suburbs sit in that folder for a minimum of 2 weeks to allow peer comments, and then we upload if there are no issues. You can read more here: https://gitlab.com/dionmoult/osm-nsw-address-import daviewales is working on some great scripts to improve the import process, so we might need to update the README :) Sent from ProtonMail mobile Original Message On 17 Feb. 2019, 11:55 pm, Joel H. wrote: > If all is well with the data, Do we upload? > > P.S. I'm still in the middle of Brisbane City's import, so I can't help right > now, But I'll jump in later in the month. > > On 11/2/19 7:28 am, Dion Moult wrote: > >> Hey talk-au, >> >> This is just a reminder that the NSW LPI address import project is still >> going on, and that you can review any datasets in the following repo. Some >> of the manual steps have been automated a little bit more thanks to great >> work by David Wales, but it is still a human review process at the end of >> the day so we are doing a bit here a bit there. >> >> https://gitlab.com/dionmoult/osm-nsw-address-import/tree/master/review >> >> Gitlab has a subscribe feature somewhere I think. >> >> A list of suburbs that are currently in the review directory are as follows: >> >> Camellia, Concord West, Denistone East, Denistone West, Denistone, East >> Ryde, Galston, Harris Park, Liberty Grove, Meadowbank, Melrose Park, >> Newington, North Ryde, Tahmoor. >> >> Sent from ProtonMail mobile >> >> Original Message >> On 18 Dec. 2018, 11:07 pm, David Wales < daviewa...@disroot.org> wrote: >> >>> Thanks Dion, >>> >>> I'll get back to the repo in the next day or so. I had a quick look, and it >>> seemed pretty comprehensive, but I haven't had a chance to try it out yet. >>> >>> Andrew, I could make a custom OsmAnd map with address data, but it would >>> spoil the point of using OsmAnd for me! I use it because it motivates me to >>> improve Open Street Map! >>> >>> On 18 December 2018 12:05:28 am AEDT, Andrew Harvey >>> [](mailto:andrew.harv...@gmail.com) wrote: >>> On Mon, 17 Dec 2018 at 23:38, Dion Moult [](mailto:d...@thinkmoult.com) wrote: > I also use OsmAnd a lot and lack of addresses is a big bugbear! Admittedly > sometimes I cheat and search for the address on an app called > "Transportr" on > the F-Droid store before I do my routing in OsmAnd, but I digress. You could process the GNAF address points data into OsmAnd using [1] and [2], so you get full address support without needing to actually import anything into OSM. I did this and it works okay. [1] https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/OsmAndMapCreator [2] https://github.com/openaddresses/oa2osm --- Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au >> >> ___ >> Talk-au mailing list >> Talk-au@openstreetmap.org >> >> https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
Re: [talk-au] NSW LPI address import
Hi Joel, If the data has been available for review for at least two weeks, feel free to upload it after reviewing it. Then, move the file to the 'uploaded' directory, and submit a merge request so we can keep track of everything. If you need to make small changes, please include those in the merge request, so the 'uploaded' directory matches what was actually uploaded. Regards, David Wales On 17 February 2019 11:55:37 pm AEDT, "Joel H." wrote: >If all is well with the data, Do we upload? > >P.S. I'm still in the middle of Brisbane City's import, so I can't help >right now, But I'll jump in later in the month. > > >On 11/2/19 7:28 am, Dion Moult wrote: >> Hey talk-au, >> >> This is just a reminder that the NSW LPI address import project is >> still going on, and that you can review any datasets in the following >> repo. Some of the manual steps have been automated a little bit more >> thanks to great work by David Wales, but it is still a human review >> process at the end of the day so we are doing a bit here a bit there. >> >> >https://gitlab.com/dionmoult/osm-nsw-address-import/tree/master/review >> >> Gitlab has a subscribe feature somewhere I think. >> >> A list of suburbs that are currently in the review directory are as >> follows: >> >> Camellia, Concord West, Denistone East, Denistone West, Denistone, >> East Ryde, Galston, Harris Park, Liberty Grove, Meadowbank, Melrose >> Park, Newington, North Ryde, Tahmoor. >> >> Sent from ProtonMail mobile >> >> >> >> Original Message >> On 18 Dec. 2018, 11:07 pm, David Wales < daviewa...@disroot.org> >wrote: >> >> >> Thanks Dion, >> >> I'll get back to the repo in the next day or so. I had a quick >> look, and it seemed pretty comprehensive, but I haven't had a >> chance to try it out yet. >> >> Andrew, I could make a custom OsmAnd map with address data, but >it >> would spoil the point of using OsmAnd for me! I use it because it >> motivates me to improve Open Street Map! >> >> On 18 December 2018 12:05:28 am AEDT, Andrew Harvey >> wrote: >> >> On Mon, 17 Dec 2018 at 23:38, Dion Moult > wrote: >> >> I also use OsmAnd a lot and lack of addresses is a big >> bugbear! Admittedly sometimes I cheat and search for the >> address on an app called "Transportr" on the F-Droid >store >> before I do my routing in OsmAnd, but I digress. >> >> >> You could process the GNAF address points data into OsmAnd >using [1] >> and [2], so you get full address support without needing to >actually >> import anything into OSM. I did this and it works okay. >> >> [1] https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/OsmAndMapCreator >> [2] https://github.com/openaddresses/oa2osm >> > >> Talk-au mailing list >> Talk-au@openstreetmap.org >> https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au >> >> >> ___ >> Talk-au mailing list >> Talk-au@openstreetmap.org >> https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
Re: [talk-au] NSW LPI address import
If all is well with the data, Do we upload? P.S. I'm still in the middle of Brisbane City's import, so I can't help right now, But I'll jump in later in the month. On 11/2/19 7:28 am, Dion Moult wrote: > Hey talk-au, > > This is just a reminder that the NSW LPI address import project is > still going on, and that you can review any datasets in the following > repo. Some of the manual steps have been automated a little bit more > thanks to great work by David Wales, but it is still a human review > process at the end of the day so we are doing a bit here a bit there. > > https://gitlab.com/dionmoult/osm-nsw-address-import/tree/master/review > > Gitlab has a subscribe feature somewhere I think. > > A list of suburbs that are currently in the review directory are as > follows: > > Camellia, Concord West, Denistone East, Denistone West, Denistone, > East Ryde, Galston, Harris Park, Liberty Grove, Meadowbank, Melrose > Park, Newington, North Ryde, Tahmoor. > > Sent from ProtonMail mobile > > > > Original Message > On 18 Dec. 2018, 11:07 pm, David Wales < daviewa...@disroot.org> wrote: > > > Thanks Dion, > > I'll get back to the repo in the next day or so. I had a quick > look, and it seemed pretty comprehensive, but I haven't had a > chance to try it out yet. > > Andrew, I could make a custom OsmAnd map with address data, but it > would spoil the point of using OsmAnd for me! I use it because it > motivates me to improve Open Street Map! > > On 18 December 2018 12:05:28 am AEDT, Andrew Harvey > wrote: > > On Mon, 17 Dec 2018 at 23:38, Dion Moult wrote: > > I also use OsmAnd a lot and lack of addresses is a big > bugbear! Admittedly sometimes I cheat and search for the > address on an app called "Transportr" on the F-Droid store > before I do my routing in OsmAnd, but I digress. > > > You could process the GNAF address points data into OsmAnd using [1] > and [2], so you get full address support without needing to actually > import anything into OSM. I did this and it works okay. > > [1] https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/OsmAndMapCreator > [2] https://github.com/openaddresses/oa2osm > > > Talk-au mailing list > Talk-au@openstreetmap.org > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au > > > ___ > Talk-au mailing list > Talk-au@openstreetmap.org > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
Re: [talk-au] NSW LPI address import
Hey talk-au, This is just a reminder that the NSW LPI address import project is still going on, and that you can review any datasets in the following repo. Some of the manual steps have been automated a little bit more thanks to great work by David Wales, but it is still a human review process at the end of the day so we are doing a bit here a bit there. https://gitlab.com/dionmoult/osm-nsw-address-import/tree/master/review Gitlab has a subscribe feature somewhere I think. A list of suburbs that are currently in the review directory are as follows: Camellia, Concord West, Denistone East, Denistone West, Denistone, East Ryde, Galston, Harris Park, Liberty Grove, Meadowbank, Melrose Park, Newington, North Ryde, Tahmoor. Sent from ProtonMail mobile Original Message On 18 Dec. 2018, 11:07 pm, David Wales wrote: > Thanks Dion, > > I'll get back to the repo in the next day or so. I had a quick look, and it > seemed pretty comprehensive, but I haven't had a chance to try it out yet. > > Andrew, I could make a custom OsmAnd map with address data, but it would > spoil the point of using OsmAnd for me! I use it because it motivates me to > improve Open Street Map! > > On 18 December 2018 12:05:28 am AEDT, Andrew Harvey > wrote: > >> On Mon, 17 Dec 2018 at 23:38, Dion Moult wrote: >> >>> I also use OsmAnd a lot and lack of addresses is a big bugbear! Admittedly >>> >>> sometimes I cheat and search for the address on an app called "Transportr" >>> on >>> >>> the F-Droid store before I do my routing in OsmAnd, but I digress. >> >> You could process the GNAF address points data into OsmAnd using [1] >> >> and [2], so you get full address support without needing to actually >> >> import anything into OSM. I did this and it works okay. >> >> [1] >> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/OsmAndMapCreator >> >> [2] >> https://github.com/openaddresses/oa2osm >> --- >> >> Talk-au mailing list >> >> Talk-au@openstreetmap.org >> https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
Re: [talk-au] NSW LPI address import
Thanks Dion, I'll get back to the repo in the next day or so. I had a quick look, and it seemed pretty comprehensive, but I haven't had a chance to try it out yet. Andrew, I could make a custom OsmAnd map with address data, but it would spoil the point of using OsmAnd for me! I use it because it motivates me to improve Open Street Map! On 18 December 2018 12:05:28 am AEDT, Andrew Harvey wrote: >On Mon, 17 Dec 2018 at 23:38, Dion Moult wrote: >> I also use OsmAnd a lot and lack of addresses is a big bugbear! >Admittedly >> sometimes I cheat and search for the address on an app called >"Transportr" on >> the F-Droid store before I do my routing in OsmAnd, but I digress. > >You could process the GNAF address points data into OsmAnd using [1] >and [2], so you get full address support without needing to actually >import anything into OSM. I did this and it works okay. > >[1] https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/OsmAndMapCreator >[2] https://github.com/openaddresses/oa2osm > >___ >Talk-au mailing list >Talk-au@openstreetmap.org >https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
Re: [talk-au] NSW LPI address import
On Mon, 17 Dec 2018 at 23:38, Dion Moult wrote: > I also use OsmAnd a lot and lack of addresses is a big bugbear! Admittedly > sometimes I cheat and search for the address on an app called "Transportr" on > the F-Droid store before I do my routing in OsmAnd, but I digress. You could process the GNAF address points data into OsmAnd using [1] and [2], so you get full address support without needing to actually import anything into OSM. I did this and it works okay. [1] https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/OsmAndMapCreator [2] https://github.com/openaddresses/oa2osm ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
Re: [talk-au] NSW LPI address import
Cheers David, I've responded on the bugtracker and also updated the README with hoepfully a very detailed step by step guide. Please check it out and let me know on the bugtracker if it makes sense :) I also use OsmAnd a lot and lack of addresses is a big bugbear! Admittedly sometimes I cheat and search for the address on an app called "Transportr" on the F-Droid store before I do my routing in OsmAnd, but I digress. On Mon, Dec 17, 2018 at 09:48:47PM +1100, David Wales wrote: >Thanks Dion! >Addresses for NSW are my primary mission at the moment. I use OsmAnd >exclusively on my phone for navigation, and the only thing I really >miss is the lack of address data. > >On 17 December 2018 7:40:33 pm AEDT, Dion Moult >wrote: > > Hi David! > Sorry that I've been AWOL - I'll update the repository and respond to all your > posted issues and merge requests. I guess I have not been receiving email > notifications and so I didn't know there was activity on the repository. > I've been uploading them part of my own account, but tagging them as follow: > `source=source:import=NSW LPI Web Services` > This is an example changeset: > [1]https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/6235620 > 1#map=15/-33.7889/151.0845 > I'll post a little HOWTO later tonight on how to import in the repo and > respond > to your bug report, as I've streamlined the process somewhat after some trial > and error, and the code in import.py is no longer an efficient way to do > things. > Cheers, let me know how things go. > On Mon, Dec 17, 2018 at 05:39:13PM +1100, David Wales wrote: > > Thanks Andrew, > I'll make sure to tag them as part of the NSW LPI address import. > I'll also make sure that no hand mapped addresses are lost or > duplicated. > Do I need to create a new account for this import, or is it OK to > upload under my own account, provided it is properly tagged? > On 17 December 2018 5:30:27 pm AEDT, Andrew Harvey > wrote: > Hi David, > The process Dion set up is a valid way to contribute (at the same > time > you're not restricted to only using that approach). > From my point of view, so long as > 1. these changesets are somehow tagged or noted as being part of the > NSW LPI Address import > 2. addresses which are already mapped in OSM are not lost in the > process, since these are potentially more accurate, and potentially > more ground truthed > then it's fine to proceed as you see fit. > On Mon, 17 Dec 2018 at 11:00, David Wales > wrote: > Hello Talk-AU, > I sent this message earlier with the subject âHello!â, but somehow > it got PGP encrypted on the way! > So, here it is again, hopefully not encrypted. > I am an Australian mapper, interested in participating in the NSW > LPI address import. > I have found the wiki page, along with the talk-au discussion and > the imports list discussion. > I have also found Dion Moultâs address import repository on Gitlab. > I have started reviewing the changesets listed in the review > directory by opening new issues in the repository for any issues I > find. > Once I have reviewed a changeset, and fixed any issues, should I > upload it to OSM and submit a pull request to fix the changeset and > move it to the âuploadedâ directory? Or does it need more review > than that? > Regards, > David Wales >___ > > Talk-au mailing list > Talk-au@openstreetmap.org > [1]https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au > References > 1. [2]https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au > > References > >1. > https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/62356201#map=15/-33.7889/151.0845 >2. https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au -- Dion Moult ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
Re: [talk-au] NSW LPI address import
Hi David! Sorry that I've been AWOL - I'll update the repository and respond to all your posted issues and merge requests. I guess I have not been receiving email notifications and so I didn't know there was activity on the repository. I've been uploading them part of my own account, but tagging them as follow: `source=source:import=NSW LPI Web Services` This is an example changeset: https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/62356201#map=15/-33.7889/151.0845 I'll post a little HOWTO later tonight on how to import in the repo and respond to your bug report, as I've streamlined the process somewhat after some trial and error, and the code in import.py is no longer an efficient way to do things. Cheers, let me know how things go. On Mon, Dec 17, 2018 at 05:39:13PM +1100, David Wales wrote: >Thanks Andrew, >I'll make sure to tag them as part of the NSW LPI address import. >I'll also make sure that no hand mapped addresses are lost or >duplicated. >Do I need to create a new account for this import, or is it OK to >upload under my own account, provided it is properly tagged? > >On 17 December 2018 5:30:27 pm AEDT, Andrew Harvey > wrote: > > Hi David, > The process Dion set up is a valid way to contribute (at the same time > you're not restricted to only using that approach). > From my point of view, so long as > 1. these changesets are somehow tagged or noted as being part of the > NSW LPI Address import > 2. addresses which are already mapped in OSM are not lost in the > process, since these are potentially more accurate, and potentially > more ground truthed > then it's fine to proceed as you see fit. > On Mon, 17 Dec 2018 at 11:00, David Wales wrote: > > Hello Talk-AU, > I sent this message earlier with the subject âHello!â, but somehow > it got PGP encrypted on the way! > So, here it is again, hopefully not encrypted. > I am an Australian mapper, interested in participating in the NSW > LPI address import. > I have found the wiki page, along with the talk-au discussion and > the imports list discussion. > I have also found Dion Moultâs address import repository on Gitlab. > I have started reviewing the changesets listed in the review > directory by opening new issues in the repository for any issues I > find. > Once I have reviewed a changeset, and fixed any issues, should I > upload it to OSM and submit a pull request to fix the changeset and > move it to the âuploadedâ directory? Or does it need more review > than that? > Regards, > David Wales >___ > > Talk-au mailing list > Talk-au@openstreetmap.org > [1]https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au > > References > >1. https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au -- Dion Moult ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
Re: [talk-au] NSW LPI address import
Thanks Andrew, I'll make sure to tag them as part of the NSW LPI address import. I'll also make sure that no hand mapped addresses are lost or duplicated. Do I need to create a new account for this import, or is it OK to upload under my own account, provided it is properly tagged? On 17 December 2018 5:30:27 pm AEDT, Andrew Harvey wrote: >Hi David, > >The process Dion set up is a valid way to contribute (at the same time >you're not restricted to only using that approach). > >From my point of view, so long as > >1. these changesets are somehow tagged or noted as being part of the >NSW LPI Address import >2. addresses which are already mapped in OSM are not lost in the >process, since these are potentially more accurate, and potentially >more ground truthed > >then it's fine to proceed as you see fit. > >On Mon, 17 Dec 2018 at 11:00, David Wales >wrote: >> >> Hello Talk-AU, >> >> I sent this message earlier with the subject ‘Hello!’, but somehow it >got PGP encrypted on the way! >> So, here it is again, hopefully not encrypted. >> >> I am an Australian mapper, interested in participating in the NSW LPI >address import. >> I have found the wiki page, along with the talk-au discussion and the >imports list discussion. >> >> I have also found Dion Moult’s address import repository on Gitlab. >> I have started reviewing the changesets listed in the review >directory by opening new issues in the repository for any issues I >find. >> Once I have reviewed a changeset, and fixed any issues, should I >upload it to OSM and submit a pull request to fix the changeset and >move it to the ‘uploaded’ directory? Or does it need more review than >that? >> >> Regards, >> David Wales >> ___ >> Talk-au mailing list >> Talk-au@openstreetmap.org >> https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
Re: [talk-au] NSW LPI address import
Hi David, The process Dion set up is a valid way to contribute (at the same time you're not restricted to only using that approach). From my point of view, so long as 1. these changesets are somehow tagged or noted as being part of the NSW LPI Address import 2. addresses which are already mapped in OSM are not lost in the process, since these are potentially more accurate, and potentially more ground truthed then it's fine to proceed as you see fit. On Mon, 17 Dec 2018 at 11:00, David Wales wrote: > > Hello Talk-AU, > > I sent this message earlier with the subject ‘Hello!’, but somehow it got PGP > encrypted on the way! > So, here it is again, hopefully not encrypted. > > I am an Australian mapper, interested in participating in the NSW LPI address > import. > I have found the wiki page, along with the talk-au discussion and the imports > list discussion. > > I have also found Dion Moult’s address import repository on Gitlab. > I have started reviewing the changesets listed in the review directory by > opening new issues in the repository for any issues I find. > Once I have reviewed a changeset, and fixed any issues, should I upload it to > OSM and submit a pull request to fix the changeset and move it to the > ‘uploaded’ directory? Or does it need more review than that? > > Regards, > David Wales > ___ > Talk-au mailing list > Talk-au@openstreetmap.org > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
