Re: [OSM-talk-be] Minor power lines

2015-03-11 Thread Marc Gemis
Bedankt, dat is inderdaad wat ik momenteel doe, het is enkel dat JOSM dan
een waarschuwing geeft dat voltage ontbreekt.

mvg

m

2015-03-12 5:31 GMT+01:00 Jo :

> Ik heb wat gezocht en het is niet met uitsluitsel vast te stellen. Ik zou
> gewoon niet vermelden wat we niet weten.
>
> Jo
>
> 2015-03-12 5:17 GMT+01:00 Marc Gemis :
>
>> en dan nu nog de foto / and now the photo
>>
>> [1]
>> http://xian.smugmug.com/OSM/OSM-2015/2015-03-08-Kester/i-98QfhTr/0/O/DSC_9713.jpg
>>
>> 2015-03-11 20:47 GMT+01:00 Marc Gemis :
>>
>>> Hallo,
>>>
>>> I have a question about minor power lines (e.g. [1]). What's the voltage
>>> on such lines ?
>>>
>>> regards
>>>
>>>
>>> I heb een vraagje over electriciteitsleidingen. Hoeveel volt gaat er
>>> door de kabels zoals op [1] ?
>>>
>>> alvast bedankt
>>>
>>> m
>>>
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Re: [OSM-talk-be] Minor power lines

2015-03-11 Thread Jo
Ik heb wat gezocht en het is niet met uitsluitsel vast te stellen. Ik zou
gewoon niet vermelden wat we niet weten.

Jo

2015-03-12 5:17 GMT+01:00 Marc Gemis :

> en dan nu nog de foto / and now the photo
>
> [1]
> http://xian.smugmug.com/OSM/OSM-2015/2015-03-08-Kester/i-98QfhTr/0/O/DSC_9713.jpg
>
> 2015-03-11 20:47 GMT+01:00 Marc Gemis :
>
>> Hallo,
>>
>> I have a question about minor power lines (e.g. [1]). What's the voltage
>> on such lines ?
>>
>> regards
>>
>>
>> I heb een vraagje over electriciteitsleidingen. Hoeveel volt gaat er door
>> de kabels zoals op [1] ?
>>
>> alvast bedankt
>>
>> m
>>
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Re: [OSM-talk-be] Minor power lines

2015-03-11 Thread Marc Gemis
en dan nu nog de foto / and now the photo

[1]
http://xian.smugmug.com/OSM/OSM-2015/2015-03-08-Kester/i-98QfhTr/0/O/DSC_9713.jpg

2015-03-11 20:47 GMT+01:00 Marc Gemis :

> Hallo,
>
> I have a question about minor power lines (e.g. [1]). What's the voltage
> on such lines ?
>
> regards
>
>
> I heb een vraagje over electriciteitsleidingen. Hoeveel volt gaat er door
> de kabels zoals op [1] ?
>
> alvast bedankt
>
> m
>
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Re: [OSM-talk-be] Call for Venues Open: State of the Map 2016

2015-03-11 Thread Nicolas Pettiaux

Hello,

I am meeting Noël Van Herreweghe (Adviseur eGovernment, 
Programmamanager Open Data) who was the official representative of 
Vlanderen at OpenBelgium this Friday Maart 13 afternoon in Gent to 
speak about the project I have to make an international conference 
about OpenAccess on Sunday 25 octobre 2015 in Brussels (with the 
support of many academic and hopefully a large amount of public money).


We could (the OSM-Be community) be present at that time as well.

If some of you (at least 4 people) tell me here that they would 
support, I'll propose to Mr Van Herreweghe that we hold a SOTM-Be 
conference first at the beginning of next year (February or March) to 
get going and then a full blown SOTM conference in beginning of 
September.


One of the thing I would very much like that we get is at least the 
start of a officially supported OpenSeaMap of the Belgian coast (the 
sand up to the lower tide line belongs to Flanders, the sea belongs to 
federal Belgium) with a community gathered bathymetric data (read more 
on http://depth.openseamap.org/)


With the help of the state (both Vlaanderen en Belgium) we could equip 
some leisure boats that are at Nieuwpoort, Oostende, Blankenberghe, 
Zeebrugge with the inexpensive equipment ( 
http://depth.openseamap.org/#introduction and 
http://seesea.sourceforge.net/datalogger/index.html) and start 
collecting the data, gathering them all in OSM and them producing the 
very best sea maps with depth of the world. With worldeader dredgers in 
Belgium (Jan De Nul and De Cloedt for example) and a full blown sea map 
with crowdsourced bathylmetric data, Belgium could be proud.


For those who already own a depth measurer (un profondimètre 
électronique) coupled to a GPS, adding such a cheap logging device is 
simple. Uploading the data is also simple and cheap. Navigating in the 
summer is a pleasure. Soon we'll have good maps of the seaground next 
to our coast to show at both Belgian and world SOTM next year.


I may be dreaming, but I think that with your help we could make it 
become true.


And OpenKnowledgeBelgium could be the main organizer, with some public 
support. It would make a lot of sense to organize Belgian SOTM in a sea 
city (either Oostend or Antwerpen), and then the main SOTM in Brussels.


What do you think ?

Best regards,

Nicolas 



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Re: [OSM-talk-be] Call for Venues Open: State of the Map 2016

2015-03-11 Thread Nicolas Pettiaux



Le mer 11 mar 2015 à 19:59, Jo  a écrit :

http://blog.emacsen.net/blog/2014/06/22/why-sotm-eu-was-awesome/

I think if we're going to do it, we should do it right. Brussels is a 
great location for such a conference. The ULB campus has proven to be 
a great venue, look at FOSDEM, RMLL, Odoo (back when they were still 
OpenERP).

indeed.

At the beginning of May, I have an appointment with the president of 
ULB and its administrator.


I proposed that ULB hosts RMLL. I am ready to propose that ULB hosts 
STOM. 

Yes, definitively, SOTM-Belgium would be a good start, but with Fosdem 
and RMLL experiences, and enough people, I think we can definitively 
aim at SOTM. Now, we just need to build the file and enter a good 
proposal.


I'll meet soon ministers and try to get money for other projects 
related to free software, open access, open data. OSM is only the next 
step.


What about organising in the beginning of 2016 SOTM-Belgium to get some 
traction, and that during only a week-end (like Fosdem). We could 
advertise during Fosdem and also before at different local events.


Then we could go larger for a full blown SOTM at the beginning of 
September 2016.


What do you think of such a proposal ?

I am ready also to propose it to the team that is behind the 
organisation of the associalibre.be activity of free software for 
associations on April 24 (where you are all welcome).
And where Julien will come and hopefully help with the planned OSM 
activity.


Best regards,

Nicolas 
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[OSM-talk-be] Minor power lines

2015-03-11 Thread Marc Gemis
Hallo,

I have a question about minor power lines (e.g. [1]). What's the voltage on
such lines ?

regards


I heb een vraagje over electriciteitsleidingen. Hoeveel volt gaat er door
de kabels zoals op [1] ?

alvast bedankt

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Re: [OSM-talk-be] Call for Venues Open: State of the Map 2016

2015-03-11 Thread Jo
http://blog.emacsen.net/blog/2014/06/22/why-sotm-eu-was-awesome/

I think if we're going to do it, we should do it right. Brussels is a great
location for such a conference. The ULB campus has proven to be a great
venue, look at FOSDEM, RMLL, Odoo (back when they were still OpenERP).

Jo

2015-03-11 18:33 GMT+01:00 Marc Ducobu :

> I think that "State of the map belgium" is a more wise choice. But
> sometimes it is worthful to not being too wise...
>
> I'm ok to help but I have also a lot of work...
>
>
> On 11 March 2015 at 12:07, Ben Abelshausen 
> wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > Thanks Pieter-Jan for keeping an eye on things as always! ;-)
> >
> > On Wed, Mar 11, 2015 at 11:22 AM, Pieter-Jan Pauwels
> >  wrote:
> >>
> >> One of the ideas for the next Open Belgium Conferences was even to have
> a
> >> specific main theme (eg. OSM) each year in stead of trying to cover
> every
> >> Open Knowledge aspect.
> >
> >
> > The more I think about this, the more I think we can do this. We can even
> > show we have experience organizing great events! ;-) We should try and
> > meetup with the OSM-people willing to help and setup a roadmap to submit
> a
> > proposal by the 16th of april. The fact that we are even considering
> this is
> > already a win for me!
> >
> > Cheers,
> >
> > Ben
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Re: [OSM-talk-be] Mapper of the month

2015-03-11 Thread Marc Ducobu
I asked to someone from OSM France if they use such a tool. I'm
wainting the response.

But I'm ok to use "trac" that I never use.

How do we organise ourself ?


On 6 March 2015 at 21:50, Glenn Plas  wrote:
> Hi Marc,
>
> Redmine is dreadful to setup in the first place, using nginx + passenger
> it is doable but once you need to apply updates to ruby it goes south.
> I professionally support redmine installs and I hate them, so I like the
> idea a lot but not the software you suggest.
>
> It's fine at first but with some plugins you start to hit the rails/ruby
> versioning issues that make it hell to support and keep it secure.
>
> On the other hand, maybe we can use trac like JOSM does.  The tool
> http://trac.edgewall.org/ might not be fancy, but all I ever need to do
> is run the standalone version behind an nginx webserver and it runs for
> years , written in python.  With the limited resources we have, we need
> some low mainteance thing.
>
> Trac is also nice since it doesn't 'force' a ticket flow, you can just
> invent one that suits you.  It's a project help tool more than a
> ticketing/helpdesk tool like redmine. (which is ok as long as you don't
> have to touch it after a sucessfull initial install)
>
> Greetings,
>
> Glenn
>
> PS: I also feel that all the sudden we have a boost in this community,
> it's awesome and contagious too!
>
>
>
>
> On 06-03-15 21:36, Marc Ducobu wrote:
>> Hello every one !
>>
>> I have the impression that all of us wants to develop the community of
>> OSM belgium and I'm happy about it! Moreover it is nice to see that we
>> have a reflexion about it.
>>
>> I like a lot the idea of the 'todo' because some people wants to help
>> but doesn't know what to do (sometimes too much emails to read, no
>> occasion to talk in real life with others, ...). Redmine (
>> http://www.redmine.org/ ) can be useful tool for that (maybe there is
>> other tool more efficient, even a page on the drupal site is
>> enough...). But I think that the must important step is to have a
>> reflexion about the organisation of this todo list because it can be
>> very messy and so useless. Maybe we can contact other local community
>> to know if they use such a tool...
>>
>> Also I think that it will be interesting is to have a national meeting
>> once a year (or twice). To build a community, it is important to meet
>> each others in real. Also it can be a good occasion to motivate new
>> people to help us...
>>
>> Have a nice we.
>>
>> Marc
>>
>> On 6 March 2015 at 09:29, Nicolas Pettiaux  wrote:
>>> Le jeu. 5 mars 2015 à 21:45, Jorieke Vyncke  a
>>> écrit :
>>>
>>> And to Nicolas, it would indeed be nice to have a direct link to all the
>>> mappers of the month. I'll have a look if I can add a keyword or
>>> something...
>>>
>>> thanks
>>>
>>> Nicolas
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Re: [OSM-talk-be] Call for Venues Open: State of the Map 2016

2015-03-11 Thread Marc Ducobu
I think that "State of the map belgium" is a more wise choice. But
sometimes it is worthful to not being too wise...

I'm ok to help but I have also a lot of work...


On 11 March 2015 at 12:07, Ben Abelshausen  wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Thanks Pieter-Jan for keeping an eye on things as always! ;-)
>
> On Wed, Mar 11, 2015 at 11:22 AM, Pieter-Jan Pauwels
>  wrote:
>>
>> One of the ideas for the next Open Belgium Conferences was even to have a
>> specific main theme (eg. OSM) each year in stead of trying to cover every
>> Open Knowledge aspect.
>
>
> The more I think about this, the more I think we can do this. We can even
> show we have experience organizing great events! ;-) We should try and
> meetup with the OSM-people willing to help and setup a roadmap to submit a
> proposal by the 16th of april. The fact that we are even considering this is
> already a win for me!
>
> Cheers,
>
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Re: [OSM-talk-be] Call for Venues Open: State of the Map 2016

2015-03-11 Thread Ben Abelshausen
Hi,

Thanks Pieter-Jan for keeping an eye on things as always! ;-)

On Wed, Mar 11, 2015 at 11:22 AM, Pieter-Jan Pauwels <
pieter-jan.pauw...@okfn.org> wrote:

> One of the ideas for the next Open Belgium Conferences was even to have a
> specific main theme (eg. OSM) each year in stead of trying to cover every
> Open Knowledge aspect.
>

The more I think about this, the more I think we can do this. We can even
show we have experience organizing great events! ;-) We should try and
meetup with the OSM-people willing to help and setup a roadmap to submit a
proposal by the 16th of april. The fact that we are even considering this
is already a win for me!

Cheers,

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Re: [OSM-talk-be] Call for Venues Open: State of the Map 2016

2015-03-11 Thread Pieter-Jan Pauwels
Hello all, 

As Ben said, if there is any need in support for organising this, we’d be happy 
to help. 
One of the ideas for the next Open Belgium Conferences was even to have a 
specific main theme (eg. OSM) each year in stead of trying to cover every Open 
Knowledge aspect. 

So feel free to keep me in the loop or to activate me when possible. 

Kind regards,
Pieter-Jan

Pieter-Jan Pauwels
Community Coordinator, Open Knowledge Belgium
m: +32 476 66 27 77  | e: pieter-jan.pauw...@okfn.org 
 | w: okfn.be  

> On 11 Mar 2015, at 11:17, Ben Abelshausen  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> Very ambitious, I like the idea lot! That being said I also have my doubts 
> but maybe that should not stop us of entertaining the idea. I also like 
> Julien's idea of doing a SOTM Belgium.
> 
> Anyway, you will have my full support in any of these initiatives. I also 
> think that if we would organize the global SOTM we can count on some support 
> from Open Belgium.
> 
> Met vriendelijke groeten,
> Best regards,
> 
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Re: [OSM-talk-be] Call for Venues Open: State of the Map 2016

2015-03-11 Thread Julien Fastré
I was wondering if we should not organize a "state of the map belgium"
first, to train us. I think this should also strengthen our community
and make speak about us.

This is also the [occasion/gelegenheid] to invite people from
administrations, companies, ... who are curious about OSM and are
wondering about "how to participate".

Julien

Le 11/03/15 08:12, Nicolas Pettiaux a écrit :
>
>
> Le mer 11 mar 2015 à 7:15, Jo  a écrit :
>> Hmm, the wiki recommends a team of 3+ people. I dismissed the idea
>> yesterday (when I read that call for venue), as I thought it would
>> rather take a 20+ people team and we don't have that.
>>
>> You can count me in, but I only count for 50%...
> I would like us to be at least 5 . Yes, I think 20+ is needed for the
> event itself
>
> NP
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Re: [OSM-talk-be] Call for Venues Open: State of the Map 2016

2015-03-11 Thread Nicolas Pettiaux



Le mer 11 mar 2015 à 7:15, Jo  a écrit :
Hmm, the wiki recommends a team of 3+ people. I dismissed the idea 
yesterday (when I read that call for venue), as I thought it would 
rather take a 20+ people team and we don't have that.


You can count me in, but I only count for 50%...
I would like us to be at least 5 . Yes, I think 20+ is needed for the 
event itself


NP
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