Re: [OSM-talk-be] GR Routes

[joost schouppe]

Hi Bart,

This is also why we have the UMAPs. The idea is to mark bigger differences
like that, and talk to the provincial GR responsibles about them. Without
some curation like that, we'll never know who is really right, because the
same often happens the other way around too. Check the GR12 umap to see
what it looks like after checking.

2017-02-15 9:01 GMT+01:00 Bart Vanherck :

> Thanks for the links I will have a better look at it.
>
> I do not really trust the official gpx files. For example: the route in
> Geel is different because the route has been changed a few years ago, but
> the official gpx trace is still the old one. So I think we still need to
> verify it on terrain.
>
>
>> I do have some good (or bad, depending on how you look at it) new though.
>> We are allowed to use the GPX files from Grote Routepaden to map these
>> trails.
>>
>>
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Re: [OSM-talk-be] GR Routes

[Bart Vanherck]

Thanks for the links I will have a better look at it.

I do not really trust the official gpx files. For example: the route in
Geel is different because the route has been changed a few years ago, but
the official gpx trace is still the old one. So I think we still need to
verify it on terrain.


> I do have some good (or bad, depending on how you look at it) new though.
> We are allowed to use the GPX files from Grote Routepaden to map these
> trails.
>
>
>
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Re: [OSM-talk-be] GR Routes

[joost schouppe]

Hi Bart,

Is it the Aanlooproute that was deleted, or one of it's member paths? If it
is the first, Jo's explanation above won't help you I'm afraid.

I do have some good (or bad, depending on how you look at it) new though.
We are allowed to use the GPX files from Grote Routepaden to map these
trails.

Check this wiki page for an overview:

https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/WikiProject_Belgium/Walking_Routes#GR_footpaths

If you look up GR561 you'll see that no one has added the relation for the
Aanlooproute you mention to the article. If someone would have done this,
it would be much easier to see who had removed it and why.

There are also UMAP instances for all main GR routes, which overlay OSM and
official data, to help you spot errors. I tend to use those for mapping new
routes too. In blue, the missing connection as mapped by Grote Routepaden:

http://umap.openstreetmap.fr/en/map/gr561_98495#15/51.2255/5.4330

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Re: [OSM-talk-be] GR Routes

[Jo]

Hi Bart,

First off, you can upload your GPX traces before deleting them locally.

If you know in which changeset the path was deleted, you can use the
reverter plugint of JOSM to restore the path.

You can also use the first version of Potlatch, but it can only restore
ways:

Go to where you know the way was, the start Potlatch:

https://www.openstreetmap.org/edit?editor=potlatch2#map=14/51.2344/5.4288

take out 2 from the url:

https://www.openstreetmap.org/edit?editor=potlatch#map=14/51.2344/5.4288

Edit with Save

Advanced/Undelete

The deleted ways will appear in bright red.

This was using an undocumented feature of the API. It was not reimplemented
in any other OSM editor, which is a shame. If you revert this way, you're
recovering the original way with all its history. If you use JOSM's
reverter, you're creating new objects with the same geometry as the deleted
ones.

Polyglot

2017-02-15 6:30 GMT+01:00 Bart Vanherck :

> Hi all,
>
> I noticed that a path that I mapped is disappeared. Can I somewhere see
> who deleted that path? Or maybe it was a script that did this? The latter I
> think not, because the GR route I was mapping is still at the point where I
> left it.
>
> And if I have that changeset or so, can I easily revert that like in
> another version control system?
>
> It is not the route itself that is gone, but an "aanlooproute" The one in
> Neerpelt. Very frustrating, because I deleted the gpx trace that I walked
> there too. Now I have to walk it again :D
>
> The path is in the beginning where it leaves the GR561 identical as
> "Brabants Vennepad", but soon it leaves it and goes the other direction.
>
> Regards,
>
> Bart
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[OSM-talk-be] GR Routes

[Bart Vanherck]

Hi all,

I noticed that a path that I mapped is disappeared. Can I somewhere see who
deleted that path? Or maybe it was a script that did this? The latter I
think not, because the GR route I was mapping is still at the point where I
left it.

And if I have that changeset or so, can I easily revert that like in
another version control system?

It is not the route itself that is gone, but an "aanlooproute" The one in
Neerpelt. Very frustrating, because I deleted the gpx trace that I walked
there too. Now I have to walk it again :D

The path is in the beginning where it leaves the GR561 identical as
"Brabants Vennepad", but soon it leaves it and goes the other direction.

Regards,

Bart
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