Re: [OSM-talk-be] Note tells OSM fails
thanks, so we do not have to change that. On Wed, Sep 5, 2018 at 11:12 AM Gerard Vanderveken wrote: > > It's the Metro and the MIVB/STIB uses Crainhem as official name in > translation for Kraainem. > It is located in Brussels, so name rules of Kraainem (NL first), which is in > the Flemish Region don't apply. > > Regards, > Gerard > > Marc Gemis wrote: > > What about the railway station > https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/250310431 ? Still uses Crainhem. Is > that the official name used by NMBS ? > On Wed, Sep 5, 2018 at 9:40 AM Lionel Giard wrote: > > > The official french name is "Kraainem" too, while Crainhem is an alternate > spelling for french (but i had never seen it before). Maybe we should change > the tag and put it like that "name:fr=Kraainem" and "alt_name:fr= Crainhem" ? > > Le mar. 4 sept. 2018 à 20:43, Marc Gemis a écrit : > > > I replied with the same names as person used in the original note. > Kraainem is named Kraainem in the name and name:nl fields. > > It is possible that Nominatim returns the name:fr field in case you > have your browser configured to prefer French above Dutch. > > m. > On Tue, Sep 4, 2018 at 7:21 PM Karel Adams wrote: > > > In the margin and without wishing to enter politics, allow me to insist > we should name the village by its primary and original name "Kraainem". > > > On 04/09/18 09:39, Marc Gemis wrote: > > > Here is the answer I gave on the note: > > As you can see on the map, the boundary between Woluwe-Saint-Pierre > and Crainhem runs slighty left of the Rue Longue. > > Since the current implementation of Nominatim (the software that looks > up the addresses), always looks at the street and never at the POIs, > there is no way to solve this with data. > > AFAIK, they are working on a solution for this, but there is no > timeframe for a solution > > m. > On Tue, Sep 4, 2018 at 9:38 AM Jakka wrote: > > > Hi, > > Who can answer and close this note. > Building is located in Woluwe-Saint-Pierre but access highway is in > Crainhem I think... > https://www.openstreetmap.org/note/1477650#map=19/50.84217/4.46717 > https://nominatim.openstreetmap.org/details.php?place_id=84536059 > > > ___ > Talk-be mailing list > Talk-be@openstreetmap.org > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-be > > > ___ > Talk-be mailing list > Talk-be@openstreetmap.org > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-be > > > ___ > Talk-be mailing list > Talk-be@openstreetmap.org > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-be > > > ___ > Talk-be mailing list > Talk-be@openstreetmap.org > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-be > > > ___ > Talk-be mailing list > Talk-be@openstreetmap.org > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-be > > > ___ > Talk-be mailing list > Talk-be@openstreetmap.org > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-be > > > ___ > Talk-be mailing list > Talk-be@openstreetmap.org > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-be ___ Talk-be mailing list Talk-be@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-be
Re: [OSM-talk-be] Note tells OSM fails
It's the Metro and the MIVB/STIB uses Crainhem as official name in translation for Kraainem. It is located in Brussels, so name rules of Kraainem (NL first), which is in the Flemish Region don't apply. Regards, Gerard Marc Gemis wrote: What about the railway station https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/250310431 ? Still uses Crainhem. Is that the official name used by NMBS ? On Wed, Sep 5, 2018 at 9:40 AM Lionel Giard wrote: The official french name is "Kraainem" too, while Crainhem is an alternate spelling for french (but i had never seen it before). Maybe we should change the tag and put it like that "name:fr=Kraainem" and "alt_name:fr= Crainhem" ? Le mar. 4 sept. 2018 à 20:43, Marc Gemis a écrit : I replied with the same names as person used in the original note. Kraainem is named Kraainem in the name and name:nl fields. It is possible that Nominatim returns the name:fr field in case you have your browser configured to prefer French above Dutch. m. On Tue, Sep 4, 2018 at 7:21 PM Karel Adams wrote: In the margin and without wishing to enter politics, allow me to insist we should name the village by its primary and original name "Kraainem". On 04/09/18 09:39, Marc Gemis wrote: Here is the answer I gave on the note: As you can see on the map, the boundary between Woluwe-Saint-Pierre and Crainhem runs slighty left of the Rue Longue. Since the current implementation of Nominatim (the software that looks up the addresses), always looks at the street and never at the POIs, there is no way to solve this with data. AFAIK, they are working on a solution for this, but there is no timeframe for a solution m. On Tue, Sep 4, 2018 at 9:38 AM Jakka wrote: Hi, Who can answer and close this note. Building is located in Woluwe-Saint-Pierre but access highway is in Crainhem I think... https://www.openstreetmap.org/note/1477650#map=19/50.84217/4.46717 https://nominatim.openstreetmap.org/details.php?place_id=84536059 ___ Talk-be mailing list Talk-be@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-be ___ Talk-be mailing list Talk-be@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-be ___ Talk-be mailing list Talk-be@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-be ___ Talk-be mailing list Talk-be@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-be ___ Talk-be mailing list Talk-be@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-be ___ Talk-be mailing list Talk-be@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-be ___ Talk-be mailing list Talk-be@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-be
Re: [OSM-talk-be] Note tells OSM fails
What about the railway station https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/250310431 ? Still uses Crainhem. Is that the official name used by NMBS ? On Wed, Sep 5, 2018 at 9:40 AM Lionel Giard wrote: > > The official french name is "Kraainem" too, while Crainhem is an alternate > spelling for french (but i had never seen it before). Maybe we should change > the tag and put it like that "name:fr=Kraainem" and "alt_name:fr= Crainhem" ? > > Le mar. 4 sept. 2018 à 20:43, Marc Gemis a écrit : >> >> I replied with the same names as person used in the original note. >> Kraainem is named Kraainem in the name and name:nl fields. >> >> It is possible that Nominatim returns the name:fr field in case you >> have your browser configured to prefer French above Dutch. >> >> m. >> On Tue, Sep 4, 2018 at 7:21 PM Karel Adams wrote: >> > >> > In the margin and without wishing to enter politics, allow me to insist >> > we should name the village by its primary and original name "Kraainem". >> > >> > >> > On 04/09/18 09:39, Marc Gemis wrote: >> > > Here is the answer I gave on the note: >> > > >> > > As you can see on the map, the boundary between Woluwe-Saint-Pierre >> > > and Crainhem runs slighty left of the Rue Longue. >> > > >> > > Since the current implementation of Nominatim (the software that looks >> > > up the addresses), always looks at the street and never at the POIs, >> > > there is no way to solve this with data. >> > > >> > > AFAIK, they are working on a solution for this, but there is no >> > > timeframe for a solution >> > > >> > > m. >> > > On Tue, Sep 4, 2018 at 9:38 AM Jakka wrote: >> > >> Hi, >> > >> >> > >> Who can answer and close this note. >> > >> Building is located in Woluwe-Saint-Pierre but access highway is in >> > >> Crainhem I think... >> > >> https://www.openstreetmap.org/note/1477650#map=19/50.84217/4.46717 >> > >> https://nominatim.openstreetmap.org/details.php?place_id=84536059 >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> ___ >> > >> Talk-be mailing list >> > >> Talk-be@openstreetmap.org >> > >> https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-be >> > > ___ >> > > Talk-be mailing list >> > > Talk-be@openstreetmap.org >> > > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-be >> > >> > >> > ___ >> > Talk-be mailing list >> > Talk-be@openstreetmap.org >> > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-be >> >> ___ >> Talk-be mailing list >> Talk-be@openstreetmap.org >> https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-be > > ___ > Talk-be mailing list > Talk-be@openstreetmap.org > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-be ___ Talk-be mailing list Talk-be@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-be
Re: [OSM-talk-be] Note tells OSM fails
That sounds like a good solution Lionel. Most of those 'French' names are simply archaic spellings of the original Flemish names anyway. Polyglot Op wo 5 sep. 2018 om 09:40 schreef Lionel Giard : > The official french name is "Kraainem" too, while Crainhem is an alternate > spelling for french (but i had never seen it before). Maybe we should > change the tag and put it like that "name:fr=Kraainem" and "alt_name:fr= > Crainhem" ? > > Le mar. 4 sept. 2018 à 20:43, Marc Gemis a écrit : > >> I replied with the same names as person used in the original note. >> Kraainem is named Kraainem in the name and name:nl fields. >> >> It is possible that Nominatim returns the name:fr field in case you >> have your browser configured to prefer French above Dutch. >> >> m. >> On Tue, Sep 4, 2018 at 7:21 PM Karel Adams wrote: >> > >> > In the margin and without wishing to enter politics, allow me to insist >> > we should name the village by its primary and original name "Kraainem". >> > >> > >> > On 04/09/18 09:39, Marc Gemis wrote: >> > > Here is the answer I gave on the note: >> > > >> > > As you can see on the map, the boundary between Woluwe-Saint-Pierre >> > > and Crainhem runs slighty left of the Rue Longue. >> > > >> > > Since the current implementation of Nominatim (the software that looks >> > > up the addresses), always looks at the street and never at the POIs, >> > > there is no way to solve this with data. >> > > >> > > AFAIK, they are working on a solution for this, but there is no >> > > timeframe for a solution >> > > >> > > m. >> > > On Tue, Sep 4, 2018 at 9:38 AM Jakka wrote: >> > >> Hi, >> > >> >> > >> Who can answer and close this note. >> > >> Building is located in Woluwe-Saint-Pierre but access highway is in >> > >> Crainhem I think... >> > >> https://www.openstreetmap.org/note/1477650#map=19/50.84217/4.46717 >> > >> https://nominatim.openstreetmap.org/details.php?place_id=84536059 >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> ___ >> > >> Talk-be mailing list >> > >> Talk-be@openstreetmap.org >> > >> https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-be >> > > ___ >> > > Talk-be mailing list >> > > Talk-be@openstreetmap.org >> > > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-be >> > >> > >> > ___ >> > Talk-be mailing list >> > Talk-be@openstreetmap.org >> > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-be >> >> ___ >> Talk-be mailing list >> Talk-be@openstreetmap.org >> https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-be >> > ___ > Talk-be mailing list > Talk-be@openstreetmap.org > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-be > ___ Talk-be mailing list Talk-be@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-be
Re: [OSM-talk-be] Note tells OSM fails
The official french name is "Kraainem" too, while Crainhem is an alternate spelling for french (but i had never seen it before). Maybe we should change the tag and put it like that "name:fr=Kraainem" and "alt_name:fr= Crainhem" ? Le mar. 4 sept. 2018 à 20:43, Marc Gemis a écrit : > I replied with the same names as person used in the original note. > Kraainem is named Kraainem in the name and name:nl fields. > > It is possible that Nominatim returns the name:fr field in case you > have your browser configured to prefer French above Dutch. > > m. > On Tue, Sep 4, 2018 at 7:21 PM Karel Adams wrote: > > > > In the margin and without wishing to enter politics, allow me to insist > > we should name the village by its primary and original name "Kraainem". > > > > > > On 04/09/18 09:39, Marc Gemis wrote: > > > Here is the answer I gave on the note: > > > > > > As you can see on the map, the boundary between Woluwe-Saint-Pierre > > > and Crainhem runs slighty left of the Rue Longue. > > > > > > Since the current implementation of Nominatim (the software that looks > > > up the addresses), always looks at the street and never at the POIs, > > > there is no way to solve this with data. > > > > > > AFAIK, they are working on a solution for this, but there is no > > > timeframe for a solution > > > > > > m. > > > On Tue, Sep 4, 2018 at 9:38 AM Jakka wrote: > > >> Hi, > > >> > > >> Who can answer and close this note. > > >> Building is located in Woluwe-Saint-Pierre but access highway is in > > >> Crainhem I think... > > >> https://www.openstreetmap.org/note/1477650#map=19/50.84217/4.46717 > > >> https://nominatim.openstreetmap.org/details.php?place_id=84536059 > > >> > > >> > > >> ___ > > >> Talk-be mailing list > > >> Talk-be@openstreetmap.org > > >> https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-be > > > ___ > > > Talk-be mailing list > > > Talk-be@openstreetmap.org > > > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-be > > > > > > ___ > > Talk-be mailing list > > Talk-be@openstreetmap.org > > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-be > > ___ > Talk-be mailing list > Talk-be@openstreetmap.org > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-be > ___ Talk-be mailing list Talk-be@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-be
Re: [OSM-talk-be] Note tells OSM fails
I replied with the same names as person used in the original note. Kraainem is named Kraainem in the name and name:nl fields. It is possible that Nominatim returns the name:fr field in case you have your browser configured to prefer French above Dutch. m. On Tue, Sep 4, 2018 at 7:21 PM Karel Adams wrote: > > In the margin and without wishing to enter politics, allow me to insist > we should name the village by its primary and original name "Kraainem". > > > On 04/09/18 09:39, Marc Gemis wrote: > > Here is the answer I gave on the note: > > > > As you can see on the map, the boundary between Woluwe-Saint-Pierre > > and Crainhem runs slighty left of the Rue Longue. > > > > Since the current implementation of Nominatim (the software that looks > > up the addresses), always looks at the street and never at the POIs, > > there is no way to solve this with data. > > > > AFAIK, they are working on a solution for this, but there is no > > timeframe for a solution > > > > m. > > On Tue, Sep 4, 2018 at 9:38 AM Jakka wrote: > >> Hi, > >> > >> Who can answer and close this note. > >> Building is located in Woluwe-Saint-Pierre but access highway is in > >> Crainhem I think... > >> https://www.openstreetmap.org/note/1477650#map=19/50.84217/4.46717 > >> https://nominatim.openstreetmap.org/details.php?place_id=84536059 > >> > >> > >> ___ > >> Talk-be mailing list > >> Talk-be@openstreetmap.org > >> https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-be > > ___ > > Talk-be mailing list > > Talk-be@openstreetmap.org > > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-be > > > ___ > Talk-be mailing list > Talk-be@openstreetmap.org > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-be ___ Talk-be mailing list Talk-be@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-be
Re: [OSM-talk-be] Note tells OSM fails
In the margin and without wishing to enter politics, allow me to insist we should name the village by its primary and original name "Kraainem". On 04/09/18 09:39, Marc Gemis wrote: Here is the answer I gave on the note: As you can see on the map, the boundary between Woluwe-Saint-Pierre and Crainhem runs slighty left of the Rue Longue. Since the current implementation of Nominatim (the software that looks up the addresses), always looks at the street and never at the POIs, there is no way to solve this with data. AFAIK, they are working on a solution for this, but there is no timeframe for a solution m. On Tue, Sep 4, 2018 at 9:38 AM Jakka wrote: Hi, Who can answer and close this note. Building is located in Woluwe-Saint-Pierre but access highway is in Crainhem I think... https://www.openstreetmap.org/note/1477650#map=19/50.84217/4.46717 https://nominatim.openstreetmap.org/details.php?place_id=84536059 ___ Talk-be mailing list Talk-be@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-be ___ Talk-be mailing list Talk-be@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-be ___ Talk-be mailing list Talk-be@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-be
Re: [OSM-talk-be] Note tells OSM fails
Here is the answer I gave on the note: As you can see on the map, the boundary between Woluwe-Saint-Pierre and Crainhem runs slighty left of the Rue Longue. Since the current implementation of Nominatim (the software that looks up the addresses), always looks at the street and never at the POIs, there is no way to solve this with data. AFAIK, they are working on a solution for this, but there is no timeframe for a solution m. On Tue, Sep 4, 2018 at 9:38 AM Jakka wrote: > > Hi, > > Who can answer and close this note. > Building is located in Woluwe-Saint-Pierre but access highway is in > Crainhem I think... > https://www.openstreetmap.org/note/1477650#map=19/50.84217/4.46717 > https://nominatim.openstreetmap.org/details.php?place_id=84536059 > > > ___ > Talk-be mailing list > Talk-be@openstreetmap.org > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-be ___ Talk-be mailing list Talk-be@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-be
[OSM-talk-be] Note tells OSM fails
Hi, Who can answer and close this note. Building is located in Woluwe-Saint-Pierre but access highway is in Crainhem I think... https://www.openstreetmap.org/note/1477650#map=19/50.84217/4.46717 https://nominatim.openstreetmap.org/details.php?place_id=84536059 ___ Talk-be mailing list Talk-be@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-be
