Re: [OSM-talk-be] Belgian Specialties / Belgische Specialiteiten
The man_made=works tag (and related product=beer) was totally unknown for me, and probably for many others. Which might explain why there are so few breweries. F.e. the Rodenbach brewery was mapped with quite a lot of additional tags (website, wikipedia, contact info, ...), but it doesn't have the man_made tag. http://www.openstreetmap.org/way/170427041 2014-12-25 9:15 GMT+01:00 Marc Gemis marc.ge...@gmail.com: Nederlands onderaan. Recently I made 2 very simple maps with umap.openstreetmap.fr around Belgian specialities: frites and beer. The first map [1] shows all fritures in Belgium, at least those that are mapped as amenity=fast_food + cuisine=friture There is a good amount of them already in OSM. The second one [2] shows all breweries in Belgium. I map all the craft=brewery, building=brewery and man_made=works + product=beer. Nevertheless the number is disappointing. Maybe you could remap a brewery near you or let me know which tagging scheme you have used ? Craft=brewery is used for small (home) breweries, the man_made for industrial breweries. In case you are interested in setting up a umap Overpass yourself, detailed instructions are found on the mappa mercia [3] blog. merry christmas happy mapping year --- Nederlands Recentelijk heb ik 2 eenvoudige kaarten in elkaar gebokst met umap.openstreetmap.fr rond Belgische specialiteiten: frieten en bier. De eerste kaart [1] toont alle frituren in België, of toch tenminste dewelke gemapped zijn als amenity=fast_food + cuisine=friture Er zijn behoorlijk wat frituren op deze manier gemapped. De tweede kaart [2] toont alle brouwerijen. Alles wat met craft=brewery, building=brewery of man_made=works + product=beer is getagged wordt getoond. Het aantal is echter teleurstellend. Misschien kunnen jullie de brouwerijen in de buurt andere tags geven of me laten weten welk tagging schema jullie hebben gebruikt ? Normaal gezien wordt craft=brewery for ambachtelijke brouwerijen gebruikt, de man_made tagging voor industriële brouwerijen. Indien je zelf een kaart wil maken met umap Overpass, gedetailleerde instructies kan je vinden op het mappa mercia [3] blog. prettige feestdagen happy mapping year m [1] http://umap.openstreetmap.fr/en/map/friture_24674#8/50.689/4.949 [2] http://umap.openstreetmap.fr/en/map/breweries_24688#8/50.595/4.449 [3] http://www.mappa-mercia.org/2014/09/creating-an-always-up-to-date-map.html ___ Talk-be mailing list Talk-be@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-be ___ Talk-be mailing list Talk-be@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-be
Re: [OSM-talk-be] Belgian Specialties / Belgische Specialiteiten
Het zou misschien interessant zijn om ‘Brouwerij’ toe te voegen aan ‘Hoe map ik…’ Ik zou het zelf doen maar ik twijfel er aan of ik dit tot een goed einde zou brengen. Guy Vanvuchelen Van: Marc Gemis [mailto:marc.ge...@gmail.com] Verzonden: donderdag 25 december 2014 9:16 Aan: OpenStreetMap Belgium Onderwerp: [OSM-talk-be] Belgian Specialties / Belgische Specialiteiten Nederlands onderaan. Recently I made 2 very simple maps with umap.openstreetmap.fr around Belgian specialities: frites and beer. The first map [1] shows all fritures in Belgium, at least those that are mapped as amenity=fast_food + cuisine=friture There is a good amount of them already in OSM. The second one [2] shows all breweries in Belgium. I map all the craft=brewery, building=brewery and man_made=works + product=beer. Nevertheless the number is disappointing. Maybe you could remap a brewery near you or let me know which tagging scheme you have used ? Craft=brewery is used for small (home) breweries, the man_made for industrial breweries. In case you are interested in setting up a umap Overpass yourself, detailed instructions are found on the mappa mercia [3] blog. merry christmas happy mapping year --- Nederlands Recentelijk heb ik 2 eenvoudige kaarten in elkaar gebokst met umap.openstreetmap.fr rond Belgische specialiteiten: frieten en bier. De eerste kaart [1] toont alle frituren in België, of toch tenminste dewelke gemapped zijn als amenity=fast_food + cuisine=friture Er zijn behoorlijk wat frituren op deze manier gemapped. De tweede kaart [2] toont alle brouwerijen. Alles wat met craft=brewery, building=brewery of man_made=works + product=beer is getagged wordt getoond. Het aantal is echter teleurstellend. Misschien kunnen jullie de brouwerijen in de buurt andere tags geven of me laten weten welk tagging schema jullie hebben gebruikt ? Normaal gezien wordt craft=brewery for ambachtelijke brouwerijen gebruikt, de man_made tagging voor industriële brouwerijen. Indien je zelf een kaart wil maken met umap Overpass, gedetailleerde instructies kan je vinden op het mappa mercia [3] blog. prettige feestdagen happy mapping year m [1] http://umap.openstreetmap.fr/en/map/friture_24674#8/50.689/4.949 [2] http://umap.openstreetmap.fr/en/map/breweries_24688#8/50.595/4.449 [3] http://www.mappa-mercia.org/2014/09/creating-an-always-up-to-date-map.html ___ Talk-be mailing list Talk-be@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-be
Re: [OSM-talk-be] Belgian Specialties / Belgische Specialiteiten
On 2014-12-25 09:15, Marc Gemis wrote : Nederlands onderaan. Recently I made 2 very simple maps with umap.openstreetmap.fr around Belgian specialities: frites and beer. The first map [1] shows all fritures in Belgium, at least those that are mapped as amenity=fast_food + cuisine=friture There is a good amount of them already in OSM. The second one [2] shows all breweries in Belgium. I map all the craft=brewery, building=brewery and man_made=works + product=beer. Nevertheless the number is disappointing. Maybe you could remap a brewery near you or let me know which tagging scheme you have used ? Craft=brewery is used for small (home) breweries, the man_made for industrial breweries. In case you are interested in setting up a umap Overpass yourself, detailed instructions are found on the mappa mercia [3] blog. merry christmas happy mapping year Hi Marc, Nice idea. The map might be put on some tourism agencies sites and promote OSM. Please note this project. Well, why not also map where we can drink beer as a specialty? In this pub, and all Vaudrée pubs, they sell several hundreds kinds of beers !!! I'm sure I had investigated special tags to use for those kinds of "pubs" and I really wonder why I don't see any that I put on this one. Did they vanish? I have added some breweries, but there's a problem. We cannot have building=monastery and building=brewery at the same time, can we? I and a least one other person have explained several times on the wiki that the correct tagging is building=yes (main, physical object tag, others are attributes) monastery=yes hotel=yes (if there's no better tag for their lodging activity) shop=yes shop:beer=yes shop:cheese=yes etc. That is very clear and obvious instead of a fuzzy mess where we have historical=castle but no castles that are not historical instead of building=yes castle=yes historical=yes/no/year hotel=yes if the castle is fitted as a hotel winery=yes if the castle is a "château Lafitte" So, what I did is adding brewery=yes to buildings that existed, without any reshuffling. I did not tag for the renderer ;-) Jupiler, Hoegarden, Stella Artois I think, Orval and maybe more to come. It's a pity that the (or some) names of the beers are not tagged. What about the natural brewery:brand=Name1:Name2... Please note French=English: frire = fry (verb) frites = chips or fries (fr chips = en crisps) friture = fried food (not the shop) anything that's fried, the oil/fat or the action of frying friterie = chip shop (where they are sold, nl frituur I believe) The English don't really have traditional shops centered on chips with side dishes as sausages, rollmop etc. a lot but a tradition is "fish and chip shop" (cod or haddock) which I liked very much, they have modern fast food however but that's not chips centered. friture is not an English word, so, cuisine=friture is in principle incorrect (ça ne me dérange pas qu'ils utilisent le français, mais à condition de ne pas cuisiner le magasin ;-) ). André. --- Nederlands Recentelijk heb ik 2 eenvoudige kaarten in elkaar gebokst met umap.openstreetmap.fr rond Belgische specialiteiten: frieten en bier. De eerste kaart [1] toont alle frituren in België, of toch tenminste dewelke gemapped zijn als amenity=fast_food + cuisine=friture Er zijn behoorlijk wat frituren op deze manier gemapped. De tweede kaart [2] toont alle brouwerijen. Alles wat met craft=brewery, building=brewery of man_made=works + product=beer is getagged wordt getoond. Het aantal is echter teleurstellend. Misschien kunnen jullie de brouwerijen in de buurt andere tags geven of me laten weten welk tagging schema jullie hebben gebruikt ? Normaal gezien wordt craft=brewery for ambachtelijke brouwerijen gebruikt, de man_made tagging voor industriële brouwerijen. Indien je zelf een kaart wil maken met umap Overpass, gedetailleerde instructies kan je vinden op het mappa mercia [3] blog. prettige feestdagen "happy mapping year" m [1]
