[Talk-ca] CanVec Import
Hello all, I would like to remind everyone not to blindly import CanVec tiles on OSM. I have recently seen tiles uploaded blindly, duplicating nodes and duplicating features that were already imported (like wooded areas, lakes, rivers, etc.) I know it is tempting to see more data on OSM, but dirty data has no value. Uploading tiles in batch is not crowd sourcing either as it can be easily done with software. Personally, I prefer less data but with better quality than having to validate everything that has been imported again and again. This can of course be discussed here, others might have different opinions. Now, private messages have been sent to specific authors. If no answers provided, we will have to make the choice to revert the changesets or not. Thank you for your understanding (and inputs). Best regards, Olivier -- http://www.olivierhill.ca/ ___ Talk-ca mailing list Talk-ca@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ca
Re: [Talk-ca] CanVec Import
Probably the best thing to do is wait for commonmap. Cheerio John On 31 December 2010 11:50, Olivier Hill olivier.h...@gmail.com wrote: Hello all, I would like to remind everyone not to blindly import CanVec tiles on OSM. I have recently seen tiles uploaded blindly, duplicating nodes and duplicating features that were already imported (like wooded areas, lakes, rivers, etc.) I know it is tempting to see more data on OSM, but dirty data has no value. Uploading tiles in batch is not crowd sourcing either as it can be easily done with software. Personally, I prefer less data but with better quality than having to validate everything that has been imported again and again. This can of course be discussed here, others might have different opinions. Now, private messages have been sent to specific authors. If no answers provided, we will have to make the choice to revert the changesets or not. Thank you for your understanding (and inputs). Best regards, Olivier -- http://www.olivierhill.ca/ ___ Talk-ca mailing list Talk-ca@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ca ___ Talk-ca mailing list Talk-ca@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ca
Re: [Talk-ca] CanVec Import
I agree with Olivier, It certainly needs more effort but the result is there. Blind import never helps. It just mess-up with others work. Blind Canvec import could have been done by NRCan, messing-up all the work done by each OSM contributor. It doesn't help the project to have the impression that our work is not respected because a bunch of data is dump over what we have already map... Cheers, Daniel -Original Message- From: talk-ca-boun...@openstreetmap.org [mailto:talk-ca-boun...@openstreetmap.org] On Behalf Of Olivier Hill Sent: December-31-10 11:50 To: talk-ca@openstreetmap.org Subject: [Talk-ca] CanVec Import Hello all, I would like to remind everyone not to blindly import CanVec tiles on OSM. I have recently seen tiles uploaded blindly, duplicating nodes and duplicating features that were already imported (like wooded areas, lakes, rivers, etc.) I know it is tempting to see more data on OSM, but dirty data has no value. Uploading tiles in batch is not crowd sourcing either as it can be easily done with software. Personally, I prefer less data but with better quality than having to validate everything that has been imported again and again. This can of course be discussed here, others might have different opinions. Now, private messages have been sent to specific authors. If no answers provided, we will have to make the choice to revert the changesets or not. Thank you for your understanding (and inputs). Best regards, Olivier -- http://www.olivierhill.ca/ ___ Talk-ca mailing list Talk-ca@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ca ___ Talk-ca mailing list Talk-ca@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ca
Re: [Talk-ca] CanVec Import
Thank you Daniel. The situation you are describing is exactly what is currently being done in 031G08, and I'm not too happy about it. Features from CanVec have been modified since, and re-imported on top. This has the consequence of destroying the many contributions done by people around the area. Personally, seing this makes contributing a complete non-sense for me. The CanVec data is gold and I'm thrilled you and NRCan makes it all possible. However people need to realize that they can take that data and manually import it, making a decision along the way which features are still accurate and which features were already mapped. Anyhow... time to celebrate new year's eve ;) Thanks, Olivier On Fri, Dec 31, 2010 at 4:13 PM, Daniel Begin jfd...@hotmail.com wrote: I agree with Olivier, It certainly needs more effort but the result is there. Blind import never helps. It just mess-up with others work. Blind Canvec import could have been done by NRCan, messing-up all the work done by each OSM contributor. It doesn't help the project to have the impression that our work is not respected because a bunch of data is dump over what we have already map... Cheers, Daniel -Original Message- From: talk-ca-boun...@openstreetmap.org [mailto:talk-ca-boun...@openstreetmap.org] On Behalf Of Olivier Hill Sent: December-31-10 11:50 To: talk-ca@openstreetmap.org Subject: [Talk-ca] CanVec Import Hello all, I would like to remind everyone not to blindly import CanVec tiles on OSM. I have recently seen tiles uploaded blindly, duplicating nodes and duplicating features that were already imported (like wooded areas, lakes, rivers, etc.) I know it is tempting to see more data on OSM, but dirty data has no value. Uploading tiles in batch is not crowd sourcing either as it can be easily done with software. Personally, I prefer less data but with better quality than having to validate everything that has been imported again and again. This can of course be discussed here, others might have different opinions. Now, private messages have been sent to specific authors. If no answers provided, we will have to make the choice to revert the changesets or not. Thank you for your understanding (and inputs). Best regards, Olivier -- http://www.olivierhill.ca/ ___ Talk-ca mailing list Talk-ca@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ca -- http://www.olivierhill.ca/ ___ Talk-ca mailing list Talk-ca@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ca
Re: [Talk-ca] CanVec Import
Sorry about this. I accidentally imported duplicate features in 031G09.1.3 (Lachute) that should be removed now unless I missed a few. Lachute seemed to have been mostly mapped by a user called JeanRob98 in 2009 (badly - there were many roads missing the street type such as Rue etc., there were many ways crossing with no nodes, many unconnected ways, etc.) and I was trying to clean it up. Aside from importing CanVec OlivierHill seems to have made only a few minor contributions in this area. To all contributors: PLEASE update the CanVec Import Chart on Google Docs if you are active in a certain area and you don't want other contributors doing imports in a certain area. (I think that acrosscanadatrails can give you write access to it if you ask). ___ Talk-ca mailing list Talk-ca@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ca
