Re: [Talk-ca] Merging ways

2011-08-22 Thread James Ewen
On Sun, Aug 21, 2011 at 11:41 PM, Adam Dunn dunna...@gmail.com wrote:

 Your data looks good, except for one thing: you tagged the way with
 the name, whereas the proper thing is to tag the relation with the
 name. The way should have no tags in this case (there may be other
 cases where the way would have tags even though is a member of a
 relation, but not in this case).

Ah, yes... Changed that with Potlatch. I'm going to have to figure out
how to do that in JOSM.

How do you zoom out when selecting an area with the slippy map? All I
can do is zoom in. I have to shut down the program to be able to
select another area if it's larger than what I am looking at. That's
really annoying. I've tried every combination of modifier keys I can
think of.


 Where to split is up to you, and how
 large to make a multipoly is up to you, just as long as an individual
 way does not exceed 2000 nodes.

 Just to be sure you're aware:
 http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Relation:multipolygon

I had looked at multipolygons before, and had a rudimentary
understanding... I missed the fact that you could define the outlines
of the polygon with multiple segments. Thanks for the nudge.

I had started importing CanVec tiles around Bonnyville, but never
merged the edges as I didn't know how. I also ran into a problem with
Merkaartor not being able to handle more than 5000 nodes at a time.
Perhaps I can get things working with JOSM.

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Re: [Talk-ca] Update on updating the Lake Huron shoreline

2011-08-22 Thread Daniel Begin
Hi all,

I have been imported Canvec data around US-QC-ON border and I'm having a
similar question.  When should we use Canvec data as is (natural=water) and
when should we transform it into natural=coastline?

Using natural=coastline on US border (to match tagging with the US portion)
seems fine to me but when do we switch to the other representation?

Does someone have a proposition?

Daniel

-Original Message-
From: James A. Treacy [mailto:tre...@debian.org] 
Sent: August-09-11 14:32
To: talk-ca@openstreetmap.org
Subject: Re: [Talk-ca] Update on updating the Lake Huron shoreline

Hello,
Another update on the conversion of the Great Lakes shoreline plus
one question.

After something like 10,000 islands, the conversion of the Canadian
shore of Lake Huron (including Georgian Bay) to use the canvec data
is completed! That is a LOT of islands. Given the magnitude of the
task, few changes were made to the land side of things. That's not
quite true as all the islands had all features added - including
Manitoulin Island.

For the areas that have been rendered it looks much better. It could
be a few weeks before the remainder of the shoreline is updated.

I have started moving down the St Clair River (connecting Lake Huron
and Lake Erie) and have a question:

Is there any preferred method to decide where to stop using coastline
and to start using natural=water? There are some channels that cut off
a large part of the mainland in NE Lake St. Clair which could easily
be used as the shoreline. That would be a huge change from the current
shoreline though. Additionally, the route of the current shoreline
would be time consuming to maintain as it would involve cutting up a
number of areas that canvec renders as water. I'd think the best route
would be to use the definition of the shoreline as defined by some
official governmental body, if such a thing exists.

Any suggestions? Even an answer of 'just do what is convenient' would
be helpful.

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Re: [Talk-ca] Update on updating the Lake Huron shoreline

2011-08-22 Thread G. Michael Carter
What I did with lake superior is used the canvec data to build the big lake
superior object.  The multi-polygon become natural=water.   then converted
the entire line that was the shore to natural=coastline and connect it to
the existing coastline out side the object.   That way if you import the
data into a GPS the lake object for canada shows up, but the is an existing
coastline as well (which the US side uses a coastline)

Personally I like the idea of having the lake object that way you can pull
it as one object.

Michael

On Mon, Aug 22, 2011 at 2:03 PM, Daniel Begin jfd...@hotmail.com wrote:

 Hi all,

 I have been imported Canvec data around US-QC-ON border and I'm having a
 similar question.  When should we use Canvec data as is (natural=water) and
 when should we transform it into natural=coastline?

 Using natural=coastline on US border (to match tagging with the US portion)
 seems fine to me but when do we switch to the other representation?

 Does someone have a proposition?

 Daniel

 -Original Message-
 From: James A. Treacy [mailto:tre...@debian.org]
 Sent: August-09-11 14:32
 To: talk-ca@openstreetmap.org
 Subject: Re: [Talk-ca] Update on updating the Lake Huron shoreline

 Hello,
 Another update on the conversion of the Great Lakes shoreline plus
 one question.

 After something like 10,000 islands, the conversion of the Canadian
 shore of Lake Huron (including Georgian Bay) to use the canvec data
 is completed! That is a LOT of islands. Given the magnitude of the
 task, few changes were made to the land side of things. That's not
 quite true as all the islands had all features added - including
 Manitoulin Island.

 For the areas that have been rendered it looks much better. It could
 be a few weeks before the remainder of the shoreline is updated.

 I have started moving down the St Clair River (connecting Lake Huron
 and Lake Erie) and have a question:

 Is there any preferred method to decide where to stop using coastline
 and to start using natural=water? There are some channels that cut off
 a large part of the mainland in NE Lake St. Clair which could easily
 be used as the shoreline. That would be a huge change from the current
 shoreline though. Additionally, the route of the current shoreline
 would be time consuming to maintain as it would involve cutting up a
 number of areas that canvec renders as water. I'd think the best route
 would be to use the definition of the shoreline as defined by some
 official governmental body, if such a thing exists.

 Any suggestions? Even an answer of 'just do what is convenient' would
 be helpful.

 --
 James (Jay) Treacy
 tre...@debian.org

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