Re: [Talk-ca] Edmonton OSM gathering
On Wed, Jul 4, 2012 at 11:15 PM, James Ewen ve6...@gmail.com wrote: Anyone in the Edmonton area interested in getting together to share ideas? Dear James, I wish you all the best for your Edmonton OSM gathering. I think that it is wonderful that you are doing this. I've had a great time at the OSM local gatherings that I've attended and I'm sure Edmontonians (?) will as well. May I suggest that you just do it, and go ahead and set it up and that you reach out through other channels for attendees? If you set up the event on an event-service, like upcoming.com or meetup.com, your event will be seen by _people who are looking for events to attend_. That's awesome, right? You could help new users learn about OSM and make their first edits. The drawback to advertising your event _only_ on this list, is that not all Canadian mappers are on this list. For example, hundreds of people edit in Toronto each year. Only a few of them are on this list. :-( On the other hand, many people who are not on this list attend the Toronto events. :-) By the way, the next Toronto event is Monday 07 July 2012. http://www.meetup.com/OpenStreetMap-Toronto/events/64341292/ I encourage mappers in other places to host local events as well. It's fun and a great way to learn from other mappers. Best regards, Richard ___ Talk-ca mailing list Talk-ca@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ca
Re: [Talk-ca] Toronto event, date corrected
On Thu, Jul 5, 2012 at 9:16 AM, Richard Weait rich...@weait.com wrote: Oops. Had the date wrong earlier. It is correct below. By the way, the next Toronto event is Monday 09 July 2012. http://www.meetup.com/OpenStreetMap-Toronto/events/64341292/ I encourage mappers in other places to host local events as well. It's fun and a great way to learn from other mappers. ___ Talk-ca mailing list Talk-ca@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ca
Re: [Talk-ca] [talk-ca] Merging ways
James Ewen wrote: So, do dig up an old thread again... is there a way to merge adjoining areas in Potlatch yet? I got a great answer from Adam Dunn on using the JOSM join ways feature. I'd like to be able to do this in Potlatch as it is annoying to have to switch to another editor just to be able to merge these adjoining nodes, and then join the two adjoining areas into a single common area. As David said, there isn't, but I'd be happy to look at adding one. Assuming that (as ever with Potlatch) we go for a 90% solution rather than covering every possible combination... am I right in thinking that you'd like something that combines two areas, with a shared sequence of nodes, into one? In other words: A-B-C-D-E-F-G-A and H-I-J-C-D-E-K-L-H become A-B-C-J-I-H-L-K-E-F-G-A (and D is deleted) cheers Richard ___ Talk-ca mailing list Talk-ca@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ca
Re: [Talk-ca] Edmonton OSM gathering
On Thu, Jul 5, 2012 at 7:16 AM, Richard Weait rich...@weait.com wrote: May I suggest that you just do it, and go ahead and set it up and that you reach out through other channels for attendees? If you set up the event on an event-service, like upcoming.com or meetup.com, your event will be seen by _people who are looking for events to attend_. That's awesome, right? You could help new users learn about OSM and make their first edits. The drawback to advertising your event _only_ on this list, is that not all Canadian mappers are on this list. How many OSM mappers in Edmonton are on upcoming.com, or meetup.com? Upcoming.com is a website that is for sale, and on meetup.com, I can't even figure out where OSM might fit in their list. I can't even figure out how to go about finding anything related to OSM on the site. Aha, finally figured it out a bit. I see there's an OSM group in Toronto... now, how do you get people interested in OSM mapping that are members of the OSM community to now move their focus over to this totally unrelated site to be notified of things of interest to members of this site? Seems kind of silly when you say it that way, huh? I encourage mappers in other places to host local events as well. It's fun and a great way to learn from other mappers. Yup, it would be good to share ideas and learn from each other, but I would think that there's a better chance of communicating with people interested in OSM in Canada here than on some other random site. -- James VE6SRV ___ Talk-ca mailing list Talk-ca@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ca
Re: [Talk-ca] [talk-ca] Merging ways
On Thu, Jul 5, 2012 at 11:28 AM, Richard Fairhurst rich...@systemed.net wrote: As David said, there isn't, but I'd be happy to look at adding one. That's like a promise of a Christmas present... now I'm all excited! Assuming that (as ever with Potlatch) we go for a 90% solution rather than covering every possible combination... am I right in thinking that you'd like something that combines two areas, with a shared sequence of nodes, into one? Yup, that sounds about right... In other words: A-B-C-D-E-F-G-A and H-I-J-C-D-E-K-L-H become A-B-C-J-I-H-L-K-E-F-G-A (and D is deleted) Ooh, muh brayn hertz! That was hard on the old noggin' but, yeah! That's exactly it. The issue with the Canvec data is that it is processed in tiles, and any way that crosses a tile boundary ends up getting chopped up. Linear ways are pretty easy to fix, just select both sections and join them. Areas are a little more work, as they end up with a common border. It usually isn't too hard to combine these sections. You simply need to cut the node at the start of the slice, and delete the common segment, and then do the same for the other segment. Then select each remaining segment and join them. Automating the process would be very nice as it takes a bit to select the right node, cut it, reselect it, make sure you are on the right section of the split way, and then delete the segment, times 2. Selecting both sections of the split area, and having the program find and remove the common border, and then join the two would be super cool! Here's a perfect example, a little pond that is split across a tile boundary... http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/way/105928394 http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/way/81343872 Nodes: 1219746948 (also part of ways 81343872 and 81343872) 1219746952 1219746955 1219746957 1219746959 1219746971 1219746974 1219746978 (also part of way 81343872) 1219746948 (also part of ways 81343872 and 81343872) Nodes: 1219746948 (also part of ways 105928394 and 105928394) 1219746978 (also part of way 105928394) 947636778 947636783 947636784 947636785 947636787 947636788 947636789 947636790 947636791 947636792 947636795 1219746948 (also part of ways 105928394 and 105928394) So we can see that nodes 1219746948 and 1219746978 are the two nodes that are shared on that common border. Remove the common ways between those nodes, and merge the remaining sections together. This is about as simple as it gets. There are other situations where relations are cut, or multiple segments need to be merged because the area crosses the boundary multiple times. However, all these situations get broken down into smaller tasks, where in the end, you do end up merging two sections together just as above. There may be more things to do afterwards, but just automating the merge task would be super! -- James VE6SRV ___ Talk-ca mailing list Talk-ca@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ca
Re: [Talk-ca] Edmonton OSM gathering
While spreading the word as much as possible certainly can't hurt, I'd suggest that at the very least possible events are posted here as well. I've been mapping and using/programming computers for years (long before OpenStreetMap), but have never used (or heard of) upcoming.com or meetup.com. Getting more people involved in OSM is great, and it can't hurt to spread the word as widely as possible, but I'd suggest that posting a possible event here should definitely be done. And BTW - I'm in the Edmonton area, and depending on the date/time/etc. may be interested in attending myself. Dan On 2012-Jul-05, at 6:03 PM, James Ewen wrote: On Thu, Jul 5, 2012 at 7:16 AM, Richard Weait rich...@weait.com wrote: May I suggest that you just do it, and go ahead and set it up and that you reach out through other channels for attendees? If you set up the event on an event-service, like upcoming.com or meetup.com, your event will be seen by _people who are looking for events to attend_. That's awesome, right? You could help new users learn about OSM and make their first edits. The drawback to advertising your event _only_ on this list, is that not all Canadian mappers are on this list. How many OSM mappers in Edmonton are on upcoming.com, or meetup.com? Upcoming.com is a website that is for sale, and on meetup.com, I can't even figure out where OSM might fit in their list. I can't even figure out how to go about finding anything related to OSM on the site. Aha, finally figured it out a bit. I see there's an OSM group in Toronto... now, how do you get people interested in OSM mapping that are members of the OSM community to now move their focus over to this totally unrelated site to be notified of things of interest to members of this site? Seems kind of silly when you say it that way, huh? I encourage mappers in other places to host local events as well. It's fun and a great way to learn from other mappers. Yup, it would be good to share ideas and learn from each other, but I would think that there's a better chance of communicating with people interested in OSM in Canada here than on some other random site. -- James VE6SRV ___ Talk-ca mailing list Talk-ca@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ca -- Syzygy Research Technology Box 83, Legal, AB T0G 1L0 Canada Phone: 780-961-2213 ___ Talk-ca mailing list Talk-ca@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ca
Re: [Talk-ca] Edmonton OSM gathering
On Thu, Jul 5, 2012 at 10:27 PM, Dan Charrois d...@syz.com wrote: While spreading the word as much as possible certainly can't hurt, I'd suggest that at the very least possible events are posted here as well. And BTW - I'm in the Edmonton area, and depending on the date/time/etc. may be interested in attending myself. Yup, you are the only one that I know from the area that's on here, but there may be others lurking that may come out of the woodwork. What would work out better for you? Weekday evening or a weekend event? -- James VE6SRV ___ Talk-ca mailing list Talk-ca@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ca
