[Talk-ca] Parc Summit Montréal

2014-01-10 Thread Simon Mercier


Bonjour

Je me demande s'il s'agit d'une erreur ou simplement circonstanciel?  
Est-ce qu'il s'agit pour un d'une limite administrative de parc 
(20187021) et l'autre de la forêt(189610345)?Ça me semble tout de 
même ambigu!


http://www.openstreetmap.org/way/189610345
http://www.openstreetmap.org/way/20187021

merci



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Re: [Talk-ca] Parc Summit Montréal

2014-01-10 Thread Adam Martin
Bonjour Simon!

Forgive my lack of ability in writing french - hopefully it won't make a
difference. Took a look at the area that you are referring to. The area
that is designated as the park is a Forest while the other overlapping
area is designated as Wood. From looking over the maps provided by the
City of Montreal (http://www.lemontroyal.qc.ca/carte/en/index.sn), it would
appear that the overlap is incidental - the park area includes much of the
green space boxed in by the road and administrative boundary, but not all
of it. In fact, the park is separated from the administrative boundary by a
small gap. It appears that it should actually be connected to that boundary.

The use of Forest is odd - this is a designated park and would likely be
better suited to be noted as amenity=park. It is arguable that Forest is
not the predominate use for the area as that tag tends to be used for areas
that are managed by humans for the purposes of harvesting. Is having the
landuse here actually necessary? Using the amenity tag for a park appears
to override the Forest tag with the actual use of the land (for
recreational purposes).

Hope that helps.

Adam


2014/1/10 Simon Mercier smerc...@mapgears.com


 Bonjour

 Je me demande s'il s'agit d'une erreur ou simplement circonstanciel?
  Est-ce qu'il s'agit pour un d'une limite administrative de parc
 (20187021) et l'autre de la forêt(189610345)?Ça me semble tout de même
 ambigu!

 http://www.openstreetmap.org/way/189610345
 http://www.openstreetmap.org/way/20187021

 merci



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 canada G1V1T1

 t_418_476_7139#101
 m_418_559_7139
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Re: [Talk-ca] Parc Summit Montréal

2014-01-10 Thread Paul Norman
Both landuse=forest and natural=wood may be used to indicate an area with
trees. There are differing views about what the tags mean, so it is possible
for one person to sensibly use landuse=forest to map something while a
different person would use natural=wood to map that exact same thing.

 

From: Adam Martin [mailto:s.adam.mar...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Friday, January 10, 2014 11:19 AM
To: Simon Mercier
Cc: talk-ca@openstreetmap.org
Subject: Re: [Talk-ca] Parc Summit Montréal

 

Bonjour Simon!

Forgive my lack of ability in writing french - hopefully it won't make a
difference. Took a look at the area that you are referring to. The area that
is designated as the park is a Forest while the other overlapping area is
designated as Wood. From looking over the maps provided by the City of
Montreal (http://www.lemontroyal.qc.ca/carte/en/index.sn), it would appear
that the overlap is incidental - the park area includes much of the green
space boxed in by the road and administrative boundary, but not all of it.
In fact, the park is separated from the administrative boundary by a small
gap. It appears that it should actually be connected to that boundary.

The use of Forest is odd - this is a designated park and would likely be
better suited to be noted as amenity=park. It is arguable that Forest is
not the predominate use for the area as that tag tends to be used for areas
that are managed by humans for the purposes of harvesting. Is having the
landuse here actually necessary? Using the amenity tag for a park appears to
override the Forest tag with the actual use of the land (for recreational
purposes).

Hope that helps.

 

Adam

 

2014/1/10 Simon Mercier smerc...@mapgears.com


Bonjour

Je me demande s'il s'agit d'une erreur ou simplement circonstanciel?
Est-ce qu'il s'agit pour un d'une limite administrative de parc (20187021)
et l'autre de la forêt(189610345)?Ça me semble tout de même ambigu!

http://www.openstreetmap.org/way/189610345
http://www.openstreetmap.org/way/20187021

merci



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co-fondateur solutions mapgears
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m_418_559_7139
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Re: [Talk-ca] Parc Summit Montréal

2014-01-10 Thread Adam Martin
Good point. I've seen the discussion relating to the use of the forest
landuse tag and the wood natural tag. It does just boil down to the mappers
preference. My answer was based on my use ... there are no wrong answers,
of course.
On Jan 10, 2014 8:26 PM, Paul Norman penor...@mac.com wrote:

 Both landuse=forest and natural=wood may be used to indicate an area with
 trees. There are differing views about what the tags mean, so it is
 possible for one person to sensibly use landuse=forest to map something
 while a different person would use natural=wood to map that exact same
 thing.



 *From:* Adam Martin [mailto:s.adam.mar...@gmail.com]
 *Sent:* Friday, January 10, 2014 11:19 AM
 *To:* Simon Mercier
 *Cc:* talk-ca@openstreetmap.org
 *Subject:* Re: [Talk-ca] Parc Summit Montréal



 Bonjour Simon!

 Forgive my lack of ability in writing french - hopefully it won't make a
 difference. Took a look at the area that you are referring to. The area
 that is designated as the park is a Forest while the other overlapping
 area is designated as Wood. From looking over the maps provided by the
 City of Montreal (http://www.lemontroyal.qc.ca/carte/en/index.sn), it
 would appear that the overlap is incidental - the park area includes much
 of the green space boxed in by the road and administrative boundary, but
 not all of it. In fact, the park is separated from the administrative
 boundary by a small gap. It appears that it should actually be connected to
 that boundary.

 The use of Forest is odd - this is a designated park and would likely be
 better suited to be noted as amenity=park. It is arguable that Forest is
 not the predominate use for the area as that tag tends to be used for areas
 that are managed by humans for the purposes of harvesting. Is having the
 landuse here actually necessary? Using the amenity tag for a park appears
 to override the Forest tag with the actual use of the land (for
 recreational purposes).

 Hope that helps.



 Adam



 2014/1/10 Simon Mercier smerc...@mapgears.com


 Bonjour

 Je me demande s'il s'agit d'une erreur ou simplement circonstanciel?
  Est-ce qu'il s'agit pour un d'une limite administrative de parc
 (20187021) et l'autre de la forêt(189610345)?Ça me semble tout de même
 ambigu!

 http://www.openstreetmap.org/way/189610345
 http://www.openstreetmap.org/way/20187021

 merci



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 co-fondateur solutions mapgears
 2383 che ste-Foy bur 202 québec, qc
 canada G1V1T1

 t_418_476_7139#101
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