[Talk-ca] Canadian Arctic Island Naming Languages
Hello, I am working at the University of Calgary on a project that is using OpenStreetMap data to provide a mapping service for Arctic researchers. We chose to use OpenStreetMap as we would like to encourage communities to contribute and share their local mapping data. One of the partners on our project is the Arctic Institute of North America (http://arctic.ucalgary.ca/), and one of their members asked me about the naming of islands in the Canadian Arctic: is there a reason some islands are named in French and others in English? The Arctic Institute generally uses the English names (or names in the indigenous languages). Sincerely, James -- James Badger E.I.T. Research Associate GeoSensorWeb Lab Department of Geomatics Engineering Schulich School of Engineering University of Calgary 2500 University Drive NW Calgary, Alberta T2N 1N4 http://sensorweb.geomatics.ucalgary.ca ___ Talk-ca mailing list Talk-ca@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ca
Re: [Talk-ca] Canadian Arctic Island Naming Languages
It can just be that the person mapping didnt follow the standards for Canada for example: [image: Inline image 1] The name tag should be the native name. (Could be French, English or Indigenous languages) name:en the english translation name:fr the french translation On Mon, Jul 6, 2015 at 12:46 PM, James Parker Badger jpbad...@ucalgary.ca wrote: Hello, I am working at the University of Calgary on a project that is using OpenStreetMap data to provide a mapping service for Arctic researchers. We chose to use OpenStreetMap as we would like to encourage communities to contribute and share their local mapping data. One of the partners on our project is the Arctic Institute of North America (http://arctic.ucalgary.ca/), and one of their members asked me about the naming of islands in the Canadian Arctic: is there a reason some islands are named in French and others in English? The Arctic Institute generally uses the English names (or names in the indigenous languages). Sincerely, James -- James Badger E.I.T. Research Associate GeoSensorWeb Lab Department of Geomatics Engineering Schulich School of Engineering University of Calgary 2500 University Drive NW Calgary, Alberta T2N 1N4 http://sensorweb.geomatics.ucalgary.ca ___ Talk-ca mailing list Talk-ca@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ca -- 外に遊びに行こう！ ___ Talk-ca mailing list Talk-ca@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ca
Re: [Talk-ca] Canadian Arctic Island Naming Languages
Within the map there is provision for different language names. Different people have different ideas about which name should be in the name field. In general the English version will be found following the convention of the Arctic Institute. However it is possible to tag name:en name:fr etc. but then you get a rendering problem. Not all the rendering systems allow you to see anything other than the name field. You'd need to research what tags are / should be used for the indigenous languages remembering that they are based on European shorthand. OSM allows anything but its working with the rendering systems to display the map afterwards that causes the problem. Maperitive does allow you to adjust the rendering rules to display any of the fields, you might like to use name:en for preference but name if there isn't a value in name:en. Maperitive rules are not the easiest in the world but it does allow you considerable flexibility. I have Ottawa lying around in Maperitive somewhere that either displays in English or French, the street names for example etc. so you could actually have a map that displayed in an indigenous language. Cheerio John On 6 July 2015 at 12:46, James Parker Badger jpbad...@ucalgary.ca wrote: Hello, I am working at the University of Calgary on a project that is using OpenStreetMap data to provide a mapping service for Arctic researchers. We chose to use OpenStreetMap as we would like to encourage communities to contribute and share their local mapping data. One of the partners on our project is the Arctic Institute of North America (http://arctic.ucalgary.ca/), and one of their members asked me about the naming of islands in the Canadian Arctic: is there a reason some islands are named in French and others in English? The Arctic Institute generally uses the English names (or names in the indigenous languages). Sincerely, James -- James Badger E.I.T. Research Associate GeoSensorWeb Lab Department of Geomatics Engineering Schulich School of Engineering University of Calgary 2500 University Drive NW Calgary, Alberta T2N 1N4 http://sensorweb.geomatics.ucalgary.ca ___ Talk-ca mailing list Talk-ca@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ca ___ Talk-ca mailing list Talk-ca@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ca
[Talk-ca] Low quality unresolvable notes
I've been catching up on local notes, and have come across a few I'm not sure how to resolve. There are a number which are equivalent to There is a some name of shop somewhere in this block. While probably correct, they're not very useful. The notes aren't bug reports, the original intent of notes/OpenStreetBugs. They're not precise enough to resolve, so basically all the information they contain is that there are shops here which could be added if a site survey was done. A site survey would be nice, but there's plenty of areas where that is so - if someone opened up notes everywhere they were needed in the area, they'd make other notes less valuable and probably end up closed. I'm leaning towards closing them as not reporting a bug nor providing specific enough information to add something to the map, but wanted to get the thoughts of others. I might also bring this up at our next local meetup, see what other locals think. ___ Talk-ca mailing list Talk-ca@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ca
Re: [Talk-ca] Low quality unresolvable notes
I'd say close them with a comment. Some of them are actually precise, saying like : no rtor eb. Which is more than enough data. General things like: add POIs at this location. Could be closed as the entirety of osm could be summed in a widespread note saying: Add mapping data. You can use your jugement and close them. On Jul 6, 2015 8:34 PM, Paul Norman penor...@mac.com wrote: I've been catching up on local notes, and have come across a few I'm not sure how to resolve. There are a number which are equivalent to There is a some name of shop somewhere in this block. While probably correct, they're not very useful. The notes aren't bug reports, the original intent of notes/OpenStreetBugs. They're not precise enough to resolve, so basically all the information they contain is that there are shops here which could be added if a site survey was done. A site survey would be nice, but there's plenty of areas where that is so - if someone opened up notes everywhere they were needed in the area, they'd make other notes less valuable and probably end up closed. I'm leaning towards closing them as not reporting a bug nor providing specific enough information to add something to the map, but wanted to get the thoughts of others. I might also bring this up at our next local meetup, see what other locals think. ___ Talk-ca mailing list Talk-ca@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ca ___ Talk-ca mailing list Talk-ca@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ca
Re: [Talk-ca] Low quality unresolvable notes
On Mon, Jul 6, 2015 at 7:32 PM, Paul Norman penor...@mac.com wrote: I've been catching up on local notes, and have come across a few I'm not sure how to resolve. There are a number which are equivalent to There is a some name of shop somewhere in this block. While probably correct, they're not very useful. The notes aren't bug reports, the original intent of notes/OpenStreetBugs. They're not precise enough to resolve, so basically all the information they contain is that there are shops here which could be added if a site survey was done. A site survey would be nice, but there's plenty of areas where that is so - if someone opened up notes everywhere they were needed in the area, they'd make other notes less valuable and probably end up closed. I'm leaning towards closing them as not reporting a bug nor providing specific enough information to add something to the map, but wanted to get the thoughts of others. I've been reluctant to act on these, especially when posted by anonymous users. My concern is the lack of source information. For all we know the OP used google or yelp to get the information. If the notes can be validated with on site surveys then I suppose it is reasonable to leave them. If the note is has a user id, then they should be left for that person to add the tag. Clifford -- @osm_seattle osm_seattle.snowandsnow.us OpenStreetMap: Maps with a human touch ___ Talk-ca mailing list Talk-ca@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ca
Re: [Talk-ca] Low quality unresolvable notes
On Jul 6, 2015 9:30 PM, James james2...@gmail.com wrote: I'd say close them with a comment. Some of them are actually precise, saying like : no rtor eb. Which is more than enough data. General things like: add POIs at this location. Could be closed as the entirety of osm could be summed in a widespread note saying: Add mapping data. You can use your jugement and close them. Some of these notes are POIs that are visible on Mapillary but I couldn't figure out exactly where they are (for instance, the sign on a strip plaza shows there is a shop but I can't see exactly where it is). You should probably keep these. ___ Talk-ca mailing list Talk-ca@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ca
