Re: [Talk-ca] Adding a trail to OSM that is also a road

2014-04-21 Thread Paul Norman
You’re best off tagging the road (highway=track probably, maybe 
highway=unclassified) and indicating that it’s part of the Trans Canada Trail 
with a relation.

 

From: Brian Lang [mailto:bril...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Sunday, April 20, 2014 9:15 PM
To: Richard Weait
Cc: Talk-CA OpenStreetMap
Subject: Re: [Talk-ca] Adding a trail to OSM that is also a road

 

In this case, the road is a Forest Service Road - often meaning low quality 
road, infrequent maintenance, lots of potholes and creeks running over the 
road. 4x4 recommended but in this particular case not required. I have both 
hiked and driven this section of road. The Trans Canada Trail IS the road. 

 

I was thinking it might be best to put a parallel set of lines for the Trans 
Canada Trail due to the fact that the road is not always open to vehicles. But 
as I'm new to using OSM, I figured I'd ask first.

 

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Re: [Talk-ca] Adding a trail to OSM that is also a road

2014-04-20 Thread Brian Lang
In this case, the road is a Forest Service Road - often meaning low quality
road, infrequent maintenance, lots of potholes and creeks running over the
road. 4x4 recommended but in this particular case not required. I have both
hiked and driven this section of road. The Trans Canada Trail IS the road.

I was thinking it might be best to put a parallel set of lines for the
Trans Canada Trail due to the fact that the road is not always open to
vehicles. But as I'm new to using OSM, I figured I'd ask first.

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On Sun, Apr 20, 2014 at 8:01 PM, Richard Weait  wrote:

> On Sun, Apr 20, 2014 at 10:39 PM, Brian Lang  wrote:
> > I have added part of the Trans Canada Trail between Chilliwack, BC and
> > Chilliwack Lake to OSM. I've designated it as Bridleway with foot=yes and
> > bicycle=yes. I've also marked it as network=ncn and added incline=x%
> where
> > appropriate. This trail has been added from my own GPS tracks.
>
> Good job.  :-)  Local mapping and checking multiple sources is a good
> way to do it.
>
> > I have now come to a stretch of trail that is also a road. How should I
> add
> > the trail to OSM for the section that is the Liumchen Forest Service Road
> > where that road is also the Trans Canada Trail? The road is not always
> open
> > to vehicles, but it is at present.
>
> Responding with only general impressions as I have no local knowledge.
>  Where a trail shares another bit of infrastructure, like a road, I'd
> probably tag the road sections first, in a way that would be expected
> for the road.  Then I'd split the way(s) where the trail joins and
> leaves the road(s).  I would not change the tagging of the road ways.
> I would add the road ways between the trail entry and exit to the
> trail route relation.
>
> I find that process to be a simple way to tag the aspects of the way
> (surface=asphalt, lanes=2, oneway=yes, etc.) and the aspects of the
> route name="Trans Canada Trail", horse=yes, bicycle=yes, etc.
>
> Does that help?
>
> Best regards and happy mapping,
>
> Richard
>
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Re: [Talk-ca] Adding a trail to OSM that is also a road

2014-04-20 Thread Richard Weait
On Sun, Apr 20, 2014 at 10:39 PM, Brian Lang  wrote:
> I have added part of the Trans Canada Trail between Chilliwack, BC and
> Chilliwack Lake to OSM. I've designated it as Bridleway with foot=yes and
> bicycle=yes. I've also marked it as network=ncn and added incline=x% where
> appropriate. This trail has been added from my own GPS tracks.

Good job.  :-)  Local mapping and checking multiple sources is a good
way to do it.

> I have now come to a stretch of trail that is also a road. How should I add
> the trail to OSM for the section that is the Liumchen Forest Service Road
> where that road is also the Trans Canada Trail? The road is not always open
> to vehicles, but it is at present.

Responding with only general impressions as I have no local knowledge.
 Where a trail shares another bit of infrastructure, like a road, I'd
probably tag the road sections first, in a way that would be expected
for the road.  Then I'd split the way(s) where the trail joins and
leaves the road(s).  I would not change the tagging of the road ways.
I would add the road ways between the trail entry and exit to the
trail route relation.

I find that process to be a simple way to tag the aspects of the way
(surface=asphalt, lanes=2, oneway=yes, etc.) and the aspects of the
route name="Trans Canada Trail", horse=yes, bicycle=yes, etc.

Does that help?

Best regards and happy mapping,

Richard

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[Talk-ca] Adding a trail to OSM that is also a road

2014-04-20 Thread Brian Lang
I have added part of the Trans Canada Trail between Chilliwack, BC and
Chilliwack Lake to OSM. I've designated it as Bridleway with foot=yes and
bicycle=yes. I've also marked it as network=ncn and added incline=x% where
appropriate. This trail has been added from my own GPS tracks.

I have now come to a stretch of trail that is also a road. How should I add
the trail to OSM for the section that is the Liumchen Forest Service Road
where that road is also the Trans Canada Trail? The road is not always open
to vehicles, but it is at present.

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