Re: [Talk-ca] Highway 400A
I changed this section of road to ref=11 and olf_ref=400A. This is how it was tagged until October 2014. I also added it to the relation for Highway 11, but did not change the relation for Highway 400A. I also went to http://www.mto.gov.on.ca/english/about/feedback/general-inquiries-feedback.shtml and asked Does Highway 400A still exist, or has this been redesignated as Highway 11? Depending on the response, I may change old_ref=400A to unsigned_ref=400A. From: rickmastfa...@hotmail.com To: berniejconn...@gmail.com; andersontris...@hotmail.com CC: talk-ca@openstreetmap.org Subject: RE: [Talk-ca] Highway 400A Date: Thu, 16 Jul 2015 21:43:03 -0400 You could always add the '400A' part to the 'unsigned_ref' tag because of it being mentioned in the traffic volume documents. -James Date: Thu, 16 Jul 2015 07:14:52 -0700 From: berniejconn...@gmail.com To: andersontris...@hotmail.com CC: talk-ca@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [Talk-ca] Highway 400A If the highway signs match the ORN data I would completely ignore any contrary information. I know the province is actively maintaining and updating the ORN data. Bernie. — Bernie Connors New Maryland, NB On Thu, Jul 16, 2015 at 10:54 AM, Tristan Anderson andersontris...@hotmail.com wrote: I agree. I can change it tomorrow if nobody objects. From: berniejconn...@gmail.com The smartest thing to do is tag it based on the highway signs along the road. Bernie. — Bernie Connors New Maryland, NB On Wed, Jul 15, 2015 at 11:42 PM, Kevin Farrugia kevinfarru...@gmail.com wrote: There's some conflicting stuff about this when I look into it: the last traffic volume report (2010) from MTO refers to the section as 400A (http://www.ontario.ca/data/traffic-volume), but MNR road data labels it as Highway 11 (the MNR Ontario Road Network dataset is the source for GeoBase roads in Ontario). Keeping it as is would keep it correct based on MTO docs, but changing it based on the signage would improve usability and navigation since there aren't any 400A signs, only Hwy 11 direction signs (example: http://www.mapillary.com/map/im/xLVIFS_6hnuS_cQ-owysww). Anyone else have any thoughts? -Kevin On Wed, Jul 15, 2015 at 9:15 PM, Andrew MacKinnon andrew...@gmail.com wrote: The south end of Highway 11 at the Highway 11/400 junction between Highway 400 and Penetanguishene Road, just north of Barrie is currently tagged as Highway 400A in OSM. Is this still Highway 400A? I thought that this became Highway 11 after the Mike Harris downloading downloaded the section of Highway 11 south of there (most of which is Yonge Street). ___ Talk-ca mailing list Talk-ca@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ca ___ Talk-ca mailing list Talk-ca@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ca ___ Talk-ca mailing list Talk-ca@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ca ___ Talk-ca mailing list Talk-ca@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ca
Re: [Talk-ca] Highway 400A
The smartest thing to do is tag it based on the highway signs along the road. Bernie. — Bernie Connors New Maryland, NB On Wed, Jul 15, 2015 at 11:42 PM, Kevin Farrugia kevinfarru...@gmail.com wrote: There's some conflicting stuff about this when I look into it: the last traffic volume report (2010) from MTO refers to the section as 400A ( http://www.ontario.ca/data/traffic-volume), but MNR road data labels it as Highway 11 (the MNR Ontario Road Network dataset is the source for GeoBase roads in Ontario). Keeping it as is would keep it correct based on MTO docs, but changing it based on the signage would improve usability and navigation since there aren't any 400A signs, only Hwy 11 direction signs (example: http://www.mapillary.com/map/im/xLVIFS_6hnuS_cQ-owysww). Anyone else have any thoughts? -Kevin On Wed, Jul 15, 2015 at 9:15 PM, Andrew MacKinnon andrew...@gmail.com wrote: The south end of Highway 11 at the Highway 11/400 junction between Highway 400 and Penetanguishene Road, just north of Barrie is currently tagged as Highway 400A in OSM. Is this still Highway 400A? I thought that this became Highway 11 after the Mike Harris downloading downloaded the section of Highway 11 south of there (most of which is Yonge Street). ___ Talk-ca mailing list Talk-ca@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ca ___ Talk-ca mailing list Talk-ca@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ca
Re: [Talk-ca] Highway 400A
If the highway signs match the ORN data I would completely ignore any contrary information. I know the province is actively maintaining and updating the ORN data. Bernie. — Bernie Connors New Maryland, NB On Thu, Jul 16, 2015 at 10:54 AM, Tristan Anderson andersontris...@hotmail.com wrote: I agree. I can change it tomorrow if nobody objects. From: berniejconn...@gmail.com The smartest thing to do is tag it based on the highway signs along the road. Bernie. — Bernie Connors New Maryland, NB On Wed, Jul 15, 2015 at 11:42 PM, Kevin Farrugia kevinfarru...@gmail.com wrote: There's some conflicting stuff about this when I look into it: the last traffic volume report (2010) from MTO refers to the section as 400A (http://www.ontario.ca/data/traffic-volume), but MNR road data labels it as Highway 11 (the MNR Ontario Road Network dataset is the source for GeoBase roads in Ontario). Keeping it as is would keep it correct based on MTO docs, but changing it based on the signage would improve usability and navigation since there aren't any 400A signs, only Hwy 11 direction signs (example: http://www.mapillary.com/map/im/xLVIFS_6hnuS_cQ-owysww). Anyone else have any thoughts? -Kevin On Wed, Jul 15, 2015 at 9:15 PM, Andrew MacKinnon andrew...@gmail.com wrote: The south end of Highway 11 at the Highway 11/400 junction between Highway 400 and Penetanguishene Road, just north of Barrie is currently tagged as Highway 400A in OSM. Is this still Highway 400A? I thought that this became Highway 11 after the Mike Harris downloading downloaded the section of Highway 11 south of there (most of which is Yonge Street). ___ Talk-ca mailing list Talk-ca@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ca ___ Talk-ca mailing list Talk-ca@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ca ___ Talk-ca mailing list Talk-ca@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ca
Re: [Talk-ca] Highway 400A
You could always add the '400A' part to the 'unsigned_ref' tag because of it being mentioned in the traffic volume documents. -James Date: Thu, 16 Jul 2015 07:14:52 -0700 From: berniejconn...@gmail.com To: andersontris...@hotmail.com CC: talk-ca@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [Talk-ca] Highway 400A If the highway signs match the ORN data I would completely ignore any contrary information. I know the province is actively maintaining and updating the ORN data. Bernie. — Bernie Connors New Maryland, NB On Thu, Jul 16, 2015 at 10:54 AM, Tristan Anderson andersontris...@hotmail.com wrote: I agree. I can change it tomorrow if nobody objects. From: berniejconn...@gmail.com The smartest thing to do is tag it based on the highway signs along the road. Bernie. — Bernie Connors New Maryland, NB On Wed, Jul 15, 2015 at 11:42 PM, Kevin Farrugia kevinfarru...@gmail.com wrote: There's some conflicting stuff about this when I look into it: the last traffic volume report (2010) from MTO refers to the section as 400A (http://www.ontario.ca/data/traffic-volume), but MNR road data labels it as Highway 11 (the MNR Ontario Road Network dataset is the source for GeoBase roads in Ontario). Keeping it as is would keep it correct based on MTO docs, but changing it based on the signage would improve usability and navigation since there aren't any 400A signs, only Hwy 11 direction signs (example: http://www.mapillary.com/map/im/xLVIFS_6hnuS_cQ-owysww). Anyone else have any thoughts? -Kevin On Wed, Jul 15, 2015 at 9:15 PM, Andrew MacKinnon andrew...@gmail.com wrote: The south end of Highway 11 at the Highway 11/400 junction between Highway 400 and Penetanguishene Road, just north of Barrie is currently tagged as Highway 400A in OSM. Is this still Highway 400A? I thought that this became Highway 11 after the Mike Harris downloading downloaded the section of Highway 11 south of there (most of which is Yonge Street). ___ Talk-ca mailing list Talk-ca@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ca ___ Talk-ca mailing list Talk-ca@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ca ___ Talk-ca mailing list Talk-ca@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ca ___ Talk-ca mailing list Talk-ca@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ca
Re: [Talk-ca] Highway 400A
There's some conflicting stuff about this when I look into it: the last traffic volume report (2010) from MTO refers to the section as 400A ( http://www.ontario.ca/data/traffic-volume), but MNR road data labels it as Highway 11 (the MNR Ontario Road Network dataset is the source for GeoBase roads in Ontario). Keeping it as is would keep it correct based on MTO docs, but changing it based on the signage would improve usability and navigation since there aren't any 400A signs, only Hwy 11 direction signs (example: http://www.mapillary.com/map/im/xLVIFS_6hnuS_cQ-owysww). Anyone else have any thoughts? -Kevin On Wed, Jul 15, 2015 at 9:15 PM, Andrew MacKinnon andrew...@gmail.com wrote: The south end of Highway 11 at the Highway 11/400 junction between Highway 400 and Penetanguishene Road, just north of Barrie is currently tagged as Highway 400A in OSM. Is this still Highway 400A? I thought that this became Highway 11 after the Mike Harris downloading downloaded the section of Highway 11 south of there (most of which is Yonge Street). ___ Talk-ca mailing list Talk-ca@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ca ___ Talk-ca mailing list Talk-ca@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ca
[Talk-ca] Highway 400A
The south end of Highway 11 at the Highway 11/400 junction between Highway 400 and Penetanguishene Road, just north of Barrie is currently tagged as Highway 400A in OSM. Is this still Highway 400A? I thought that this became Highway 11 after the Mike Harris downloading downloaded the section of Highway 11 south of there (most of which is Yonge Street). ___ Talk-ca mailing list Talk-ca@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ca
