Re: [Talk-ca] Nunavut has a very pour data coverage. Why not Integrate BNDT/CanVec dataset from Department of Natural Resources Canada?
On Fri, 2014-03-28 at 19:08 +0100, i...@gmx.com wrote: Mainly I am interested in the Quttinirpaaq national park. I think it is region 120 and 340. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quttinirpaaq_National_Park The Queen Maud Gulf Bird Sanctuary would be also nice. It is region 66N and 66O. Center of it is Karak Lake N67.23719 W100.26031. Why would it take years? The complete Canada topo map from Ibycus is only 3,5GB big. Ivo Ivo: A couple of reasons that it takes me s long, is: A lot of the time at, least down south is that there is existing data already mapped. I'll open a canvec tile and then download the existing data. Now for example say some one has mapped a railway line I have to remove the rail way line from the canvec data set and then make sure the segments are connected. The I'll run Josm validator and remove all the duplicate nodes. Then I'll review the combined data and connect lakes and rivers so they are one body of water. Since canvec chops lakes and rivers in little pieces. Now granted I don't do this with the forest data, had to decide what was a reasonable time / effort to make the data look pretty. Then upload the data. So basically it all takes time and it is a hobby so I do a little now a little later and well you get the idea. If I do 4 tile segments a day which I'm guessing is an hours work Tile 120 has Blocks B, C, D, E, F, G B has 03, 04, 05, 06, 11 12, 13, 14, 15 I'm looking at 15 tile pieces for 120B would take say 4 days to import. Then onto the 120C, with a quick look at 120 C I would guess a week or 2 So If, I just blindly imported data I could fly through the tiles and end up with a pile of spaghetti. Andrew ___ Talk-ca mailing list Talk-ca@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ca
Re: [Talk-ca] Nunavut has a very pour data coverage. Why not Integrate BNDT/CanVec dataset from Department of Natural Resources Canada?
Oh thanks for the explanation. I just add some trails, gas stations and change some roads etc. so I didn't had an idea how much work it is. Great that you do the work! I am very happy about it. Ivo -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: Andrew [mailto:andrew.alli...@teksavvy.com] Gesendet: Samstag, 29. März 2014 16:38 An: talk-ca@openstreetmap.org Cc: i...@gmx.com Betreff: Re: AW: [Talk-ca] Nunavut has a very pour data coverage. Why not Integrate BNDT/CanVec dataset from Department of Natural Resources Canada? On Fri, 2014-03-28 at 19:08 +0100, i...@gmx.com wrote: Mainly I am interested in the Quttinirpaaq national park. I think it is region 120 and 340. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quttinirpaaq_National_Park The Queen Maud Gulf Bird Sanctuary would be also nice. It is region 66N and 66O. Center of it is Karak Lake N67.23719 W100.26031. Why would it take years? The complete Canada topo map from Ibycus is only 3,5GB big. Ivo Ivo: A couple of reasons that it takes me s long, is: A lot of the time at, least down south is that there is existing data already mapped. I'll open a canvec tile and then download the existing data. Now for example say some one has mapped a railway line I have to remove the rail way line from the canvec data set and then make sure the segments are connected. The I'll run Josm validator and remove all the duplicate nodes. Then I'll review the combined data and connect lakes and rivers so they are one body of water. Since canvec chops lakes and rivers in little pieces. Now granted I don't do this with the forest data, had to decide what was a reasonable time / effort to make the data look pretty. Then upload the data. So basically it all takes time and it is a hobby so I do a little now a little later and well you get the idea. If I do 4 tile segments a day which I'm guessing is an hours work Tile 120 has Blocks B, C, D, E, F, G B has 03, 04, 05, 06, 11 12, 13, 14, 15 I'm looking at 15 tile pieces for 120B would take say 4 days to import. Then onto the 120C, with a quick look at 120 C I would guess a week or 2 So If, I just blindly imported data I could fly through the tiles and end up with a pile of spaghetti. Andrew ___ Talk-ca mailing list Talk-ca@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ca
Re: [Talk-ca] Nunavut has a very pour data coverage. Why not Integrate BNDT/CanVec dataset from Department of Natural Resources Canada?
BTW, the Canvec product has been updated about 10 years ago (with satellite imagery) over Northern Canada. It is actually the most up-to-date part of Canada! Daniel From: i...@gmx.com [mailto:i...@gmx.com] Sent: March-27-14 22:13 To: 'Adam Martin' Cc: talk-ca@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [Talk-ca] Nunavut has a very pour data coverage. Why not Integrate BNDT/CanVec dataset from Department of Natural Resources Canada? Would it be possible to only import the tundra parts? There are no wood areas. Or just Ellesmere island? There are just lakes and tundra. Ivolino Von: Adam Martin [mailto:s.adam.mar...@gmail.com] Gesendet: Freitag, 28. März 2014 01:28 An: i...@gmx.com Cc: talk-ca@openstreetmap.org Betreff: Re: [Talk-ca] Nunavut has a very pour data coverage. Why not Integrate BNDT/CanVec dataset from Department of Natural Resources Canada? I can see the point here - better to have something than nothing. Still, my tendency would be to opt for a mapping project like the ones performed on other areas rather than a mass import. Imported data needs to be treated with kid gloves as it is easy to end up with faulty information. Wood areas tend to come in in a very haphazard way, for example. Put out the call - I know there must be several willing to help out up there. Adam Hi all. Nunavut has a very pour data coverage, almost nothing. Why not integrate the BNDT (or NTDB) dataset from Department of Natural Resources Canada? ftp://ftp2.cits.rncan.gc.ca/pub/bndt/ I use the map data with the Ibycus Topo Canada v4 map for Garmin and they are very good. I think the data are now proceed from CanVec should be available for import in OSM. http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Canvec I would be very happy to have the topography maps from Nunavut but I am afraid I am not experienced enough to import the data. Because there is almost nothing so far you cant do too much wrongJ. Greetings ivolino ___ Talk-ca mailing list Talk-ca@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ca ___ Talk-ca mailing list Talk-ca@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ca
Re: [Talk-ca] Nunavut has a very pour data coverage. Why not Integrate BNDT/CanVec dataset from Department of Natural Resources Canada?
The CanVec data comes in layers, so it is definitely possible to import only particular sections of the data, such as the roads. CanVec makes a good base to work off of. One of the seasoned importers can do the work and us regular users can adjust it for the underlying satellite data. I'd help with that part myself - always willing to lend a hand. Adam On Mar 27, 2014 11:42 PM, i...@gmx.com wrote: Would it be possible to only import the tundra parts? There are no wood areas. Or just Ellesmere island? There are just lakes and tundra. Ivolino *Von:* Adam Martin [mailto:s.adam.mar...@gmail.com] *Gesendet:* Freitag, 28. März 2014 01:28 *An:* i...@gmx.com *Cc:* talk-ca@openstreetmap.org *Betreff:* Re: [Talk-ca] Nunavut has a very pour data coverage. Why not Integrate BNDT/CanVec dataset from Department of Natural Resources Canada? I can see the point here - better to have something than nothing. Still, my tendency would be to opt for a mapping project like the ones performed on other areas rather than a mass import. Imported data needs to be treated with kid gloves as it is easy to end up with faulty information. Wood areas tend to come in in a very haphazard way, for example. Put out the call - I know there must be several willing to help out up there. Adam Hi all. Nunavut has a very pour data coverage, almost nothing. Why not integrate the BNDT (or NTDB) dataset from Department of Natural Resources Canada? ftp://ftp2.cits.rncan.gc.ca/pub/bndt/ I use the map data with the Ibycus Topo Canada v4 map for Garmin and they are very good. I think the data are now proceed from CanVec should be available for import in OSM. http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Canvec I would be very happy to have the topography maps from Nunavut but I am afraid I am not experienced enough to import the data. Because there is almost nothing so far you can't do too much wrongJ. Greetings ivolino ___ Talk-ca mailing list Talk-ca@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ca ___ Talk-ca mailing list Talk-ca@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ca
Re: [Talk-ca] Nunavut has a very pour data coverage. Why not Integrate BNDT/CanVec dataset from Department of Natural Resources Canada?
What could be good is 1. the physical layer infos + roads. 2. Complete the detail in villages with gps Pierre De : Adam Martin s.adam.mar...@gmail.com À : i...@gmx.com Cc : talk-ca@openstreetmap.org Envoyé le : Vendredi 28 mars 2014 7h14 Objet : Re: [Talk-ca] Nunavut has a very pour data coverage. Why not Integrate BNDT/CanVec dataset from Department of Natural Resources Canada? The CanVec data comes in layers, so it is definitely possible to import only particular sections of the data, such as the roads. CanVec makes a good base to work off of. One of the seasoned importers can do the work and us regular users can adjust it for the underlying satellite data. I'd help with that part myself - always willing to lend a hand. Adam On Mar 27, 2014 11:42 PM, i...@gmx.com wrote: Would it be possible to only import the tundra parts? There are no wood areas. Or just Ellesmere island? There are just lakes and tundra. Ivolino Von:Adam Martin [mailto:s.adam.mar...@gmail.com] Gesendet: Freitag, 28. März 2014 01:28 An: i...@gmx.com Cc: talk-ca@openstreetmap.org Betreff: Re: [Talk-ca] Nunavut has a very pour data coverage. Why not Integrate BNDT/CanVec dataset from Department of Natural Resources Canada? I can see the point here - better to have something than nothing. Still, my tendency would be to opt for a mapping project like the ones performed on other areas rather than a mass import. Imported data needs to be treated with kid gloves as it is easy to end up with faulty information. Wood areas tend to come in in a very haphazard way, for example. Put out the call - I know there must be several willing to help out up there. Adam Hi all. Nunavut has a very pour data coverage, almost nothing. Why not integrate the BNDT (or NTDB) dataset from Department of Natural Resources Canada? ftp://ftp2.cits.rncan.gc.ca/pub/bndt/ I use the map data with the Ibycus Topo Canada v4 map for Garmin and they are very good. I think the data are now proceed from CanVec should be available for import in OSM. http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Canvec I would be very happy to have the topography maps from Nunavut but I am afraid I am not experienced enough to import the data. Because there is almost nothing so far you can’t do too much wrongJ. Greetings ivolino ___ Talk-ca mailing list Talk-ca@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ca ___ Talk-ca mailing list Talk-ca@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ca___ Talk-ca mailing list Talk-ca@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ca
Re: [Talk-ca] Nunavut has a very pour data coverage. Why not Integrate BNDT/CanVec dataset from Department of Natural Resources Canada?
Ivolino: I'm currently importing canvec data. Is there a specific area that you are interested in? I would expect all of Nunavut would take me several years at least :-) Mind you I haven't looked at the data. Even Ellesmere island I would expect probably about a year. http://www.geobase.ca/geobase/en/browse.do?produit=cdeddecoupage=250kmap=canada Andrew aka PurpleMustang CanvecImports On Fri, 2014-03-28 at 13:19 +, Pierre Béland wrote: What could be good is 1. the physical layer infos + roads. 2. Complete the detail in villages with gps Pierre __ De : Adam Martin s.adam.mar...@gmail.com À : i...@gmx.com Cc : talk-ca@openstreetmap.org Envoyé le : Vendredi 28 mars 2014 7h14 Objet : Re: [Talk-ca] Nunavut has a very pour data coverage. Why not Integrate BNDT/CanVec dataset from Department of Natural Resources Canada? The CanVec data comes in layers, so it is definitely possible to import only particular sections of the data, such as the roads. CanVec makes a good base to work off of. One of the seasoned importers can do the work and us regular users can adjust it for the underlying satellite data. I'd help with that part myself - always willing to lend a hand. Adam On Mar 27, 2014 11:42 PM, i...@gmx.com wrote: Would it be possible to only import the tundra parts? There are no wood areas. Or just Ellesmere island? There are just lakes and tundra. Ivolino Von: Adam Martin [mailto:s.adam.mar...@gmail.com] Gesendet: Freitag, 28. März 2014 01:28 An: i...@gmx.com Cc: talk-ca@openstreetmap.org Betreff: Re: [Talk-ca] Nunavut has a very pour data coverage. Why not Integrate BNDT/CanVec dataset from Department of Natural Resources Canada? I can see the point here - better to have something than nothing. Still, my tendency would be to opt for a mapping project like the ones performed on other areas rather than a mass import. Imported data needs to be treated with kid gloves as it is easy to end up with faulty information. Wood areas tend to come in in a very haphazard way, for example. Put out the call - I know there must be several willing to help out up there. Adam Hi all. Nunavut has a very pour data coverage, almost nothing. Why not integrate the BNDT (or NTDB) dataset from Department of Natural Resources Canada? ftp://ftp2.cits.rncan.gc.ca/pub/bndt/ I use the map data with the Ibycus Topo Canada v4 map for Garmin and they are very good. I think the data are now proceed from CanVec should be available for import in OSM. http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Canvec I would be very happy to have the topography maps from Nunavut but I am afraid I am not experienced enough to import the data. Because there is almost nothing so far you can’t do too much wrongJ. Greetings ivolino ___ Talk-ca mailing list Talk-ca@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ca ___ Talk-ca mailing list Talk-ca@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ca ___ Talk-ca mailing list Talk-ca@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ca ___ Talk-ca mailing list Talk-ca@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ca
Re: [Talk-ca] Nunavut has a very pour data coverage. Why not Integrate BNDT/CanVec dataset from Department of Natural Resources Canada?
Mainly I am interested in the Quttinirpaaq national park. I think it is region 120 and 340. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quttinirpaaq_National_Park The Queen Maud Gulf Bird Sanctuary would be also nice. It is region 66N and 66O. Center of it is Karak Lake N67.23719 W100.26031. Why would it take years? The complete Canada topo map from Ibycus is only 3,5GB big. Ivo -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: Andrew [mailto:andrew.alli...@teksavvy.com] Gesendet: Freitag, 28. März 2014 17:16 An: talk-ca@openstreetmap.org Betreff: Re: [Talk-ca] Nunavut has a very pour data coverage. Why not Integrate BNDT/CanVec dataset from Department of Natural Resources Canada? Ivolino: I'm currently importing canvec data. Is there a specific area that you are interested in? I would expect all of Nunavut would take me several years at least :-) Mind you I haven't looked at the data. Even Ellesmere island I would expect probably about a year. http://www.geobase.ca/geobase/en/browse.do?produit=cdeddecoupage=250kmap=canada Andrew aka PurpleMustang CanvecImports On Fri, 2014-03-28 at 13:19 +, Pierre Béland wrote: What could be good is 1. the physical layer infos + roads. 2. Complete the detail in villages with gps Pierre __ De : Adam Martin s.adam.mar...@gmail.com À : i...@gmx.com Cc : talk-ca@openstreetmap.org Envoyé le : Vendredi 28 mars 2014 7h14 Objet : Re: [Talk-ca] Nunavut has a very pour data coverage. Why not Integrate BNDT/CanVec dataset from Department of Natural Resources Canada? The CanVec data comes in layers, so it is definitely possible to import only particular sections of the data, such as the roads. CanVec makes a good base to work off of. One of the seasoned importers can do the work and us regular users can adjust it for the underlying satellite data. I'd help with that part myself - always willing to lend a hand. Adam On Mar 27, 2014 11:42 PM, i...@gmx.com wrote: Would it be possible to only import the tundra parts? There are no wood areas. Or just Ellesmere island? There are just lakes and tundra. Ivolino Von: Adam Martin [mailto:s.adam.mar...@gmail.com] Gesendet: Freitag, 28. März 2014 01:28 An: i...@gmx.com Cc: talk-ca@openstreetmap.org Betreff: Re: [Talk-ca] Nunavut has a very pour data coverage. Why not Integrate BNDT/CanVec dataset from Department of Natural Resources Canada? I can see the point here - better to have something than nothing. Still, my tendency would be to opt for a mapping project like the ones performed on other areas rather than a mass import. Imported data needs to be treated with kid gloves as it is easy to end up with faulty information. Wood areas tend to come in in a very haphazard way, for example. Put out the call - I know there must be several willing to help out up there. Adam Hi all. Nunavut has a very pour data coverage, almost nothing. Why not integrate the BNDT (or NTDB) dataset from Department of Natural Resources Canada? ftp://ftp2.cits.rncan.gc.ca/pub/bndt/ I use the map data with the Ibycus Topo Canada v4 map for Garmin and they are very good. I think the data are now proceed from CanVec should be available for import in OSM. http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Canvec I would be very happy to have the topography maps from Nunavut but I am afraid I am not experienced enough to import the data. Because there is almost nothing so far you can’t do too much wrongJ. Greetings ivolino ___ Talk-ca mailing list Talk-ca@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ca ___ Talk-ca mailing list Talk-ca@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ca ___ Talk-ca mailing list Talk-ca@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ca ___ Talk-ca mailing list Talk-ca@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ca ___ Talk-ca mailing list Talk-ca@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ca
[Talk-ca] Nunavut has a very pour data coverage. Why not Integrate BNDT/CanVec dataset from Department of Natural Resources Canada?
Hi all. Nunavut has a very pour data coverage, almost nothing. Why not integrate the BNDT (or NTDB) dataset from Department of Natural Resources Canada? ftp://ftp2.cits.rncan.gc.ca/pub/bndt/ I use the map data with the Ibycus Topo Canada v4 map for Garmin and they are very good. I think the data are now proceed from CanVec should be available for import in OSM. http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Canvec I would be very happy to have the topography maps from Nunavut but I am afraid I am not experienced enough to import the data. Because there is almost nothing so far you can't do too much wrongJ. Greetings ivolino ___ Talk-ca mailing list Talk-ca@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ca
Re: [Talk-ca] Nunavut has a very pour data coverage. Why not Integrate BNDT/CanVec dataset from Department of Natural Resources Canada?
I can see the point here - better to have something than nothing. Still, my tendency would be to opt for a mapping project like the ones performed on other areas rather than a mass import. Imported data needs to be treated with kid gloves as it is easy to end up with faulty information. Wood areas tend to come in in a very haphazard way, for example. Put out the call - I know there must be several willing to help out up there. Adam Hi all. Nunavut has a very pour data coverage, almost nothing. Why not integrate the BNDT (or NTDB) dataset from Department of Natural Resources Canada? ftp://ftp2.cits.rncan.gc.ca/pub/bndt/ I use the map data with the Ibycus Topo Canada v4 map for Garmin and they are very good. I think the data are now proceed from CanVec should be available for import in OSM. http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Canvec I would be very happy to have the topography maps from Nunavut but I am afraid I am not experienced enough to import the data. Because there is almost nothing so far you can't do too much wrongJ. Greetings ivolino ___ Talk-ca mailing list Talk-ca@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ca ___ Talk-ca mailing list Talk-ca@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ca
Re: [Talk-ca] Nunavut has a very pour data coverage. Why not Integrate BNDT/CanVec dataset from Department of Natural Resources Canada?
Would it be possible to only import the tundra parts? There are no wood areas. Or just Ellesmere island? There are just lakes and tundra. Ivolino Von: Adam Martin [mailto:s.adam.mar...@gmail.com] Gesendet: Freitag, 28. März 2014 01:28 An: i...@gmx.com Cc: talk-ca@openstreetmap.org Betreff: Re: [Talk-ca] Nunavut has a very pour data coverage. Why not Integrate BNDT/CanVec dataset from Department of Natural Resources Canada? I can see the point here - better to have something than nothing. Still, my tendency would be to opt for a mapping project like the ones performed on other areas rather than a mass import. Imported data needs to be treated with kid gloves as it is easy to end up with faulty information. Wood areas tend to come in in a very haphazard way, for example. Put out the call - I know there must be several willing to help out up there. Adam Hi all. Nunavut has a very pour data coverage, almost nothing. Why not integrate the BNDT (or NTDB) dataset from Department of Natural Resources Canada? ftp://ftp2.cits.rncan.gc.ca/pub/bndt/ I use the map data with the Ibycus Topo Canada v4 map for Garmin and they are very good. I think the data are now proceed from CanVec should be available for import in OSM. http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Canvec I would be very happy to have the topography maps from Nunavut but I am afraid I am not experienced enough to import the data. Because there is almost nothing so far you cant do too much wrongJ. Greetings ivolino ___ Talk-ca mailing list Talk-ca@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ca ___ Talk-ca mailing list Talk-ca@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ca
