Re: [Talk-ca] Vancouver rapid transit stations - "Station" in name?
I'm with you, station shouldn't be included in the name unless its signed that way. I've been successful in asking questions like this directly to the agency. They might be surprised that they have an inconsistent naming practice between documents. I did find a Steven Frick, who is secretary of BC URISA, from TransLink, steven.fr...@translink.ca, that you might ask. Another good source is their GTFS feed which doesn't use the word Station in the list of stops. As a disclaimer, I've only taken SkyTrain a few times so I'm not a good source on stations should be named. Clifford On Sun, Nov 5, 2017 at 10:12 AM, Jarek Piórkowski wrote: > Hello, > > First post here, sorry if I mess anything up! > > A few months back I noticed that station names for Vancouver Skytrain > rapid transit system (all lines) are inconsistent: 32 of them have > "Station" in their name, but 23 don't, with little apparent pattern by > line or location. > > Most of all I would like to make it consistent one way or the other - > I hope that's not controversial. Which way is then the question. > > I made a note about this in downtown Vancouver near Granville station, > but didn't get much response: > https://www.openstreetmap.org/note/858075 > > On the ground, signs on station entrances do include "Station", > examples (1) (2) below. Signs at platforms do not include "Station", > example (3). Other TransLink resources are not particularly > consistent: as one example, network maps like (4) do not include > "Station" but local station area maps like (5) do. > > Are there conventions on what format should be used - in Canada or in > general in OSM? I couldn't really find anything concrete. > http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Names seems inconclusive on whether > it should include "Station". I saw a question (6) on help.osm.org > which was specific to Hong Kong and in the end hinged more on existing > consistency. > > Analogies from other cities: Toronto and Montreal have no "Station" in > subway/metro station names. Calgary has no "Station" in its LRT names > but Edmonton does. Seattle and Portland also have no "Station". > Possibly the closest analogy, though far away in London, England, see > (7) for example with photos: signs outside all tube stations have > format "Goodge Street Station" / "South Kensington Station"; signs at > platforms say "Goodge Street" / "South Kensington"; OSM tags > name=Goodge Street / name=South Kensington. > > Personally I would prefer no "Station", so making the names like > "Burrard", "Vancouver City Centre", "Nanaimo", "Inlet Centre". Does > anyone or any resource disagree? > > Cheers, > --Jarek > > (1) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Vancouver_-_Burrard_ > Station_entrance_01.jpg > (2) https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Coquitlam_Central_ > Station_Exterior.jpg > (3) https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Coquitlam_Central_ > station_(SkyTrain).jpg > (4) http://infomaps.translink.ca/System_Maps/skytrain_bline_seabus_map.pdf > (5) https://www.translink.ca/en/Schedules-and-Maps/SkyTrain/ > SkyTrain-Station-and-Elevator-Maps.aspx > (6) https://help.openstreetmap.org/questions/52852/railway- > stationmetro-station-naming > (7) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Goodge_Street_tube_station > > ___ > Talk-ca mailing list > Talk-ca@openstreetmap.org > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ca > -- @osm_seattle osm_seattle.snowandsnow.us OpenStreetMap: Maps with a human touch ___ Talk-ca mailing list Talk-ca@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ca
Re: [Talk-ca] Vancouver rapid transit stations - "Station" in name?
Sounds sensible to me. No doubt there will be other opinions. Cheerio John On 5 Nov 2017 1:16 pm, "Jarek Piórkowski" wrote: > Hello, > > First post here, sorry if I mess anything up! > > A few months back I noticed that station names for Vancouver Skytrain > rapid transit system (all lines) are inconsistent: 32 of them have > "Station" in their name, but 23 don't, with little apparent pattern by > line or location. > > Most of all I would like to make it consistent one way or the other - > I hope that's not controversial. Which way is then the question. > > I made a note about this in downtown Vancouver near Granville station, > but didn't get much response: > https://www.openstreetmap.org/note/858075 > > On the ground, signs on station entrances do include "Station", > examples (1) (2) below. Signs at platforms do not include "Station", > example (3). Other TransLink resources are not particularly > consistent: as one example, network maps like (4) do not include > "Station" but local station area maps like (5) do. > > Are there conventions on what format should be used - in Canada or in > general in OSM? I couldn't really find anything concrete. > http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Names seems inconclusive on whether > it should include "Station". I saw a question (6) on help.osm.org > which was specific to Hong Kong and in the end hinged more on existing > consistency. > > Analogies from other cities: Toronto and Montreal have no "Station" in > subway/metro station names. Calgary has no "Station" in its LRT names > but Edmonton does. Seattle and Portland also have no "Station". > Possibly the closest analogy, though far away in London, England, see > (7) for example with photos: signs outside all tube stations have > format "Goodge Street Station" / "South Kensington Station"; signs at > platforms say "Goodge Street" / "South Kensington"; OSM tags > name=Goodge Street / name=South Kensington. > > Personally I would prefer no "Station", so making the names like > "Burrard", "Vancouver City Centre", "Nanaimo", "Inlet Centre". Does > anyone or any resource disagree? > > Cheers, > --Jarek > > (1) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Vancouver_-_Burrard_ > Station_entrance_01.jpg > (2) https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Coquitlam_Central_ > Station_Exterior.jpg > (3) https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Coquitlam_Central_ > station_(SkyTrain).jpg > (4) http://infomaps.translink.ca/System_Maps/skytrain_bline_seabus_map.pdf > (5) https://www.translink.ca/en/Schedules-and-Maps/SkyTrain/ > SkyTrain-Station-and-Elevator-Maps.aspx > (6) https://help.openstreetmap.org/questions/52852/railway- > stationmetro-station-naming > (7) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Goodge_Street_tube_station > > ___ > Talk-ca mailing list > Talk-ca@openstreetmap.org > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ca > ___ Talk-ca mailing list Talk-ca@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ca
[Talk-ca] Vancouver rapid transit stations - "Station" in name?
Hello, First post here, sorry if I mess anything up! A few months back I noticed that station names for Vancouver Skytrain rapid transit system (all lines) are inconsistent: 32 of them have "Station" in their name, but 23 don't, with little apparent pattern by line or location. Most of all I would like to make it consistent one way or the other - I hope that's not controversial. Which way is then the question. I made a note about this in downtown Vancouver near Granville station, but didn't get much response: https://www.openstreetmap.org/note/858075 On the ground, signs on station entrances do include "Station", examples (1) (2) below. Signs at platforms do not include "Station", example (3). Other TransLink resources are not particularly consistent: as one example, network maps like (4) do not include "Station" but local station area maps like (5) do. Are there conventions on what format should be used - in Canada or in general in OSM? I couldn't really find anything concrete. http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Names seems inconclusive on whether it should include "Station". I saw a question (6) on help.osm.org which was specific to Hong Kong and in the end hinged more on existing consistency. Analogies from other cities: Toronto and Montreal have no "Station" in subway/metro station names. Calgary has no "Station" in its LRT names but Edmonton does. Seattle and Portland also have no "Station". Possibly the closest analogy, though far away in London, England, see (7) for example with photos: signs outside all tube stations have format "Goodge Street Station" / "South Kensington Station"; signs at platforms say "Goodge Street" / "South Kensington"; OSM tags name=Goodge Street / name=South Kensington. Personally I would prefer no "Station", so making the names like "Burrard", "Vancouver City Centre", "Nanaimo", "Inlet Centre". Does anyone or any resource disagree? Cheers, --Jarek (1) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Vancouver_-_Burrard_Station_entrance_01.jpg (2) https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Coquitlam_Central_Station_Exterior.jpg (3) https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Coquitlam_Central_station_(SkyTrain).jpg (4) http://infomaps.translink.ca/System_Maps/skytrain_bline_seabus_map.pdf (5) https://www.translink.ca/en/Schedules-and-Maps/SkyTrain/SkyTrain-Station-and-Elevator-Maps.aspx (6) https://help.openstreetmap.org/questions/52852/railway-stationmetro-station-naming (7) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Goodge_Street_tube_station ___ Talk-ca mailing list Talk-ca@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ca