Re: [Talk-ca] Ottawa import: deleting existing content

[James]

Fixed: https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/480316853/history &
https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/480316854/history

On Sat, Apr 1, 2017 at 6:48 AM, James  wrote:

> Could have been a mistake as we told people not to delete buildings. If
> building geometry was very bad to use the replace geometry tool, but for
> the most part the concentration was on adding new buildings. Mistakes
> happen...
>
> On Sat, Apr 1, 2017 at 12:40 AM, Stewart C. Russell 
> wrote:
>
>> On 2017-03-31 10:35 PM, James wrote:
>> > Your example for building deletion, has 0 building deletion
>> >
>> > https://overpass-api.de/achavi/?changeset=47337186
>>
>> Ah, linked to the wrong one. This has it:
>> https://overpass-api.de/achavi/?changeset=47302320
>>
>> Here's jiminie's original changeset:
>> https://overpass-api.de/achavi/?changeset=46827970=19;
>> lat=45.42954=-75.63272=B0TTTFT
>>
>> Near the top is way #480316854, an H-shaped house number 1031.
>>
>> It's been deleted and replaced with way #483739791 in carpbunker's
>> changeset 47302320.
>>
>> The scope of the import was not to delete ways.
>>
>>  Stewart
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Re: [Talk-ca] Ottawa import: deleting existing content

[James]

Could have been a mistake as we told people not to delete buildings. If
building geometry was very bad to use the replace geometry tool, but for
the most part the concentration was on adding new buildings. Mistakes
happen...

On Sat, Apr 1, 2017 at 12:40 AM, Stewart C. Russell 
wrote:

> On 2017-03-31 10:35 PM, James wrote:
> > Your example for building deletion, has 0 building deletion
> >
> > https://overpass-api.de/achavi/?changeset=47337186
>
> Ah, linked to the wrong one. This has it:
> https://overpass-api.de/achavi/?changeset=47302320
>
> Here's jiminie's original changeset:
> https://overpass-api.de/achavi/?changeset=46827970;
> zoom=19=45.42954=-75.63272=B0TTTFT
>
> Near the top is way #480316854, an H-shaped house number 1031.
>
> It's been deleted and replaced with way #483739791 in carpbunker's
> changeset 47302320.
>
> The scope of the import was not to delete ways.
>
>  Stewart
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Re: [Talk-ca] Ottawa import: deleting existing content

[Stewart C. Russell]

On 2017-03-31 10:35 PM, James wrote:
> Your example for building deletion, has 0 building deletion
> 
> https://overpass-api.de/achavi/?changeset=47337186

Ah, linked to the wrong one. This has it:
https://overpass-api.de/achavi/?changeset=47302320

Here's jiminie's original changeset:
https://overpass-api.de/achavi/?changeset=46827970=19=45.42954=-75.63272=B0TTTFT

Near the top is way #480316854, an H-shaped house number 1031.

It's been deleted and replaced with way #483739791 in carpbunker's
changeset 47302320.

The scope of the import was not to delete ways.

 Stewart


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Re: [Talk-ca] Ottawa import: deleting existing content

[James]

Your example for building deletion, has 0 building deletion

https://overpass-api.de/achavi/?changeset=47337186

On Mar 31, 2017 10:05 PM, "Kyle Nuttall"  wrote:

> From what I've seen, the address interpolations are very inaccurate. The
> ends are not position properly, sometimes there will be odd numbers on an
> even way (and vise versa), sometimes the addresses are backwards, sometimes
> on the wrong side of the street, sometimes both.
>
> 'Okay' data is better than no data but with the actual individual
> addresses now in Ottawa, there's good data that supercedes this bad data.
>
> In my opinion these interpolations are actually making Ottawa worse and I
> question the necessity of them.
>
> Cheers,
> Kyle
>
> On Mar 31, 2017 9:48 PM, James  wrote:
>
> Just an FYI canvec is not the best in Ottawa:
> https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B9ueWCOgxq2GT0JfTkRnb2JXcTQ/
> view?usp=drivesdk
>
>
> On Mar 31, 2017 9:37 PM, "Stewart C. Russell"  wrote:
>
> It seems that some of the import users didn't get the “Don't delete
> stuff” memo. User carpbunker is deleting address interpolation ways
> (example: https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/47333119) and existing
> buildings (example: https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/47337186).
> Please stop doing that. You need to work around existing contributions.
>
> I'd left changeset comments, but they had not been responded to until I
> threatened to talk this to talk-ca.
>
> The user claims to be deleting "bad address imports", but didn't discuss
> how those previous contributions were bad here before unilaterally
> deciding to delete nodes. Their import-only account is now a mess of
> imports and deletions and will be hard to unpick.
>
>  Stewart
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Re: [Talk-ca] Ottawa import: deleting existing content

[Kyle Nuttall]

From what I've seen, the address interpolations are very inaccurate. The ends 
are not position properly, sometimes there will be odd numbers on an even way 
(and vise versa), sometimes the addresses are backwards, sometimes on the wrong 
side of the street, sometimes both.

'Okay' data is better than no data but with the actual individual addresses now 
in Ottawa, there's good data that supercedes this bad data.

In my opinion these interpolations are actually making Ottawa worse and I 
question the necessity of them.

Cheers,
Kyle

On Mar 31, 2017 9:48 PM, James  wrote:
Just an FYI canvec is not the best in Ottawa:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B9ueWCOgxq2GT0JfTkRnb2JXcTQ/view?usp=drivesdk


On Mar 31, 2017 9:37 PM, "Stewart C. Russell" 
> wrote:
It seems that some of the import users didn't get the “Don't delete
stuff” memo. User carpbunker is deleting address interpolation ways
(example: https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/47333119) and existing
buildings (example: https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/47337186).
Please stop doing that. You need to work around existing contributions.

I'd left changeset comments, but they had not been responded to until I
threatened to talk this to talk-ca.

The user claims to be deleting "bad address imports", but didn't discuss
how those previous contributions were bad here before unilaterally
deciding to delete nodes. Their import-only account is now a mess of
imports and deletions and will be hard to unpick.

 Stewart

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Re: [Talk-ca] Ottawa import: deleting existing content

[James]

Just an FYI canvec is not the best in Ottawa:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B9ueWCOgxq2GT0JfTkRnb2JXcTQ/view?usp=drivesdk


On Mar 31, 2017 9:37 PM, "Stewart C. Russell"  wrote:

> It seems that some of the import users didn't get the “Don't delete
> stuff” memo. User carpbunker is deleting address interpolation ways
> (example: https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/47333119) and existing
> buildings (example: https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/47337186).
> Please stop doing that. You need to work around existing contributions.
>
> I'd left changeset comments, but they had not been responded to until I
> threatened to talk this to talk-ca.
>
> The user claims to be deleting "bad address imports", but didn't discuss
> how those previous contributions were bad here before unilaterally
> deciding to delete nodes. Their import-only account is now a mess of
> imports and deletions and will be hard to unpick.
>
>  Stewart
>
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