Re: [Talk-GB] MK mapping party

2009-05-19 Thread Ed Loach
 The C classification is just not available on the ground, and
 is in
 practice only of use to highway engineers.
 
 This interpretation is subjective to some extent, but more
 useful IMO
 (and leads to prettier maps :-))

I notice that some of the tertiary grid roads in MK have had what
was tagged in the loc_ref field added to the ref field (such as H4).
I think this looks good in Mapnik and wonder whether we should
extend it to the other tertiary grid roads (as the primary and
secondary ones already have their own references). It would
certainly make a printout from OSM more useful for visitors.

Ed



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Re: [Talk-GB] MK mapping party

2009-05-19 Thread Chris Fleming

On 18/05/09 11:06, Andy Allan wrote:

On Mon, May 18, 2009 at 10:41 AM, Andy Robinson (blackadder-lists)
ajrli...@googlemail.com  wrote:
   

I'm expecting to organise another 6 parties through the rest of this year so
people's preference for locations please shout up again.
 


Scotland! I was just browsing around on z10 (i.e. the last level
before vmap0 built-up areas disappear) and was somewhat dismayed to
find that even towns big enough for vmap0 don't even have a place=town
node in them yet (c.f. Mallaig)! The main cities are progressing, but
there's lots of areas that could do with some TLC.

South of the M8 - the Ardrossan/Prestwick/Kilmarnok/Ayr/Troon arc,
Stranraer, Dumfries, Berwick (OK technically that's in England)
North of the M8 - some places have started but might need some help,
like Falkrik Stirling and Perth
   
Agree - most of Scotland needs a lot of work. While the Central belt is 
well covered most places outside of this area need some work, for 
example Inverness and Aberdeen have been fully traced from the yahoo 
imagery; however not much groundwork has been done, and most towns in  
Northeast have barely any coverage. So we need to get more activity 
kickstarted in those area's.


Although sometimes I'm surprised; on as trip up to Killin earlier this 
year I discovered that not only had it been mapped but an article had 
also been written in the local newsletter! (http://twitpic.com/1duux)


It's probably up to those of us living here to get some mapping party's 
up and running to cover these area's.


Cheers
Chris

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Re: [Talk-GB] MK mapping party

2009-05-19 Thread Tom Hughes
Ed Loach wrote:

 I notice that some of the tertiary grid roads in MK have had what
 was tagged in the loc_ref field added to the ref field (such as H4).
 I think this looks good in Mapnik and wonder whether we should
 extend it to the other tertiary grid roads (as the primary and
 secondary ones already have their own references). It would
 certainly make a printout from OSM more useful for visitors.

That was probably me - a few already had it and I added it to some of 
the others when I bumped them up to tertiary.

It's a bit of a cheat really - arguably the better solution would be for 
mapnik to render loc_ref.

Tom

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Tom Hughes (t...@compton.nu)
http://www.compton.nu/

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Re: [Talk-GB] MK mapping party

2009-05-19 Thread OJ W
http://www.cbrd.co.uk/c-roads/

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Re: [Talk-GB] MK mapping party

2009-05-19 Thread Ed Loach
 http://www.cbrd.co.uk/c-roads/

But is this not confusing highway=tertiary with C roads? A bit like
the confusion that arises between using highway=trunk for the
green/yellow A roads in the UK rather than the trunk network as
maintained by the highways agency. The tag value is perhaps a bit
misleading...

Ed



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Re: [Talk-GB] MK mapping party

2009-05-19 Thread Tom Sutch
Date: Tue, 19 May 2009 10:27:15 +0100
From: Ed Loach e...@loach.me.uk
Message-ID: 000601c9d864$0393d900$0abb8b...@me.uk

 I notice that some of the tertiary grid roads in MK have had what
 was tagged in the loc_ref field added to the ref field (such as H4).
 I think this looks good in Mapnik and wonder whether we should
 extend it to the other tertiary grid roads (as the primary and
 secondary ones already have their own references). It would
 certainly make a printout from OSM more useful for visitors.

Hmm, I was going to post about this.  Personally I'm not sure about
it. I can see the merit in having V6 etc prominently shown, but I think
having them rendered on the same basis as A509, B4034 is perhaps a bit
confusing. I know they're in different colours because they're
tertiary as opposed to primary/secondary, but it seems odd to be
displaying some but not all of the grid numbering system.  I would say
that within MK it is equivalent, not subservient, to the national
numbering system; different people will navigate by different means.

However, showing the grid road numbers prominently will be a key
advantage for OSM data over other sources.  The only other map I know
of that shows them is the official MK City Map
(http://www.mkweb.co.uk/mkmap/home.asp?Scale=3) which is very
frustrating to use online. I notice they seem to represent their grid
numbers on the map as part of the name, in the same font/size/colour
etc. This has a certain amount of logic to it, as that's the way they
are shown on the road signs.

MK is looking much better on Mapnik and Osmarender now that the grid
roads, and only the grid roads, are tertiary.  I'm looking forward to
seeing the redways on the Cycle Map when that's regenerated!

With reference to earlier discussion on here, I haven't finished my
mapping yet, but the roads within the grid squares that I've tagged as
unclassified so far have tended to be those named '... Gate' which are
the links in from the grid roads.

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[Talk-GB] Lundy Island Completed

2009-05-19 Thread Guy Collins

Lundy Island, in the Bristol Channel, is pretty much compelte. The island has 
no proper roads to speak of and only tracks. All buildings have been added 
along 
with the prominent walls that cross the island: the quarter way, half way and 
three-quarter way walls. In addition the three lighthouses have been added. 
View it 
here in Osmarender: 
http://www.openstreetmap.org/export/embed.html?bbox=-4.6957,51.1592,-4.6325,51.2layer=osmarender
The Lundy Post's post box and post office are fully captured and just a few 
building names need to be assigned. Even the postcode is included (EX39 2LY)!

As the first, and only?, UK marine nature reserve exists around the island this 
may appear later although I'm not sure of what will happen adding a leisure, 
nature_reserve will have on the sea?! 



  

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