[Talk-gb-westmidlands] Balsall Common armchair mapping cake

2012-11-04 Thread Matt Williams
Hi all,

As discussed at the last meetup
(http://blog.mappa-mercia.org/2012/11/november-pub-meeting.html) a few
of us are thinking of doing a little armchair (followed by a survey?)
mapping of Balsall Common, particularly focusing on buildings. I see
that Brian has already started a bit and I've been doing a little
today.

To make sure that we don't have more than one person doing the same
area of the town, I thought I'd put together a cake using MapCraft.
You can view the cake at http://mapcraft.nanodesu.ru/pie/164 and you
can reserve (and mark as in-progress/done) the various slices if you
log in with your OSM account.

I haven't really used MapCraft before but I know the Londoners use it
for their mapping parties so we should see how it goes.

Matt

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Re: [Talk-gb-westmidlands] Balsall Common armchair mapping cake

2012-11-04 Thread Brian Prangle
Hi Matt

Great tool! Looks like it will be useful. Let's see how it goes and maybe
do a cake with this tool for Balti Triangle?

Regards

Brian

On 4 November 2012 17:26, Matt Williams m...@milliams.com wrote:

 Hi all,

 As discussed at the last meetup
 (http://blog.mappa-mercia.org/2012/11/november-pub-meeting.html) a few
 of us are thinking of doing a little armchair (followed by a survey?)
 mapping of Balsall Common, particularly focusing on buildings. I see
 that Brian has already started a bit and I've been doing a little
 today.

 To make sure that we don't have more than one person doing the same
 area of the town, I thought I'd put together a cake using MapCraft.
 You can view the cake at http://mapcraft.nanodesu.ru/pie/164 and you
 can reserve (and mark as in-progress/done) the various slices if you
 log in with your OSM account.

 I haven't really used MapCraft before but I know the Londoners use it
 for their mapping parties so we should see how it goes.

 Matt

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Re: [Talk-GB] Addition of Wikipedia links in German!

2012-11-04 Thread Colin Smale

WARNING: CHECK YOUR BOUNDARIES!

Longbow4u has been causing other problems with these edits as well. In 
Kent the boundaries of Ashford and Shepway districts have been emptied 
of ways. The addition of wikipedia links is continuing apace, sometimes 
in English, sometimes in German.


This changeset seems particularly problematic:
http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/changeset/13577241

I have sent him/her a message requesting them to repair the damage to 
these boundary relations and have suggested rolling back that whole 
changeset might be a good place to start.


Colin

On 21/10/2012 17:08, Robert Norris wrote:


Seeing these edits:

http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/Longbow4u/edits

http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/changeset/13577963

to add a tags such as wikipedia = de:Portsmouth

One can't help but wonder what the point of such tags are (an indeed website), 
as any intelligent web search based on the name of the object (and +wikipedia) 
and maybe UK or the county will usually takes to one the web site (or 
wikipedia) of that item and probably in the right language too...

(even if I often tag POIs with websites myself...)

This sort of automatic search linking would be much web 2.0, than the pile of 
URL related values in the DB.

Be Seeing You - Rob.
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Re: [Talk-GB] Office of National Statistics data

2012-11-04 Thread Robert Whittaker (OSM lists)
On 30 October 2012 19:24, Chris Hill o...@raggedred.net wrote:
 The UK Office for National Statistics has released some data [1] under the
 Open Government licence [2] . I've extracted the postcode data from it and
 created a tile overlay which can help find a postcode for a building in GB,
 excluding Northern Ireland. More info is at http://onspd.raggedred.net
 including using the tiles layers in Potlatch 2  JOSM.

 [1]
 http://www.ons.gov.uk/ons/guide-method/geography/products/postcode-directories/-nspp-/index.html
 [2] http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/doc/open-government-licence/

While [1] says ONS Intellectual Property in the postcode products is
supplied under Open Government Licence terms that only refers to
ONS's IP rights, and doesn't say anything about anyone else's IP
rights...

If we follow the licenses link to [3] we find why there is this
strange wording:

Postcode products: The ONS postcode directories are subject to the
Open Government Licence, and Ordnance Survey OpenData Licence.

So it's not correct to say that the data has been released under the
Open Government License. Unfortunately, it looks like we're back to
the same problem we had with CodePoint Open: The ONS dataset
presumably contains IP from Royal Mail under the OS OpenData License.
When LWG enquired a while ago, the answer came back that we weren't
allowed to use CodePoint Open under the OS OpenData License, because
we hadn't got permission from Royal Mail. I don't see that this new
dataset is going to be any different. But if you think there's a case
to be made for being able to use it this time, I think you'll need to
run it by LWG first and get their approval.

Sorry to have to throw a spanner in the works here,

Robert.


[3] 
http://www.ons.gov.uk/ons/guide-method/geography/beginner-s-guide/licences/index.html

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Re: [Talk-GB] Office of National Statistics data

2012-11-04 Thread Rob Nickerson
Hi Robert,

The odd statement on ONS's website seems to be more related to the Northern
Ireland part of the dataset. If you see the full statement on the licenses
page then it states clearly that the data is available under OGL (see
below). The same statement is also made in the download file itself.

On a related note, we now have the support of the Open Data User Group
(ODUG), who have issued a paper calling for the release of address data as
open data. As you may or may not recall, ODUG reports in to the Cabinet
Office and is responsible for identify public sector datasets that should
be made openly available.

Regards
Rob

== Quoted text below ==

*Copyright and reproduction*

© Crown copyright 2012
You may re-use this information (not including logos or Northern Ireland
data) free of charge in any format or medium, under the terms of the Open
Government Licence. However, the following attribution statement must be
acknowledged or displayed on any product using ONS data:
Contains Ordnance Survey data © Crown copyright and database right 2012
Contains National Statistics data © Crown copyright and database right 2012
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Re: [Talk-GB] Office of National Statistics data

2012-11-04 Thread Lester Caine

Rob Nickerson wrote:

On a related note, we now have the support of the Open Data User Group (ODUG),
who have issued a paper calling for the release of address data as open data. As
you may or may not recall, ODUG reports in to the Cabinet Office and is
responsible for identify public sector datasets that should be made openly
available.


I haven't had a reply to my own request re the NSG and NLPG stuff, but 
presumably there were a substantial number of requests for the same data!


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