Re: [Talk-GB] OpenTrail - Freemap for Android

2013-02-11 Thread Kevin Peat
On 11 Feb 2013 18:06, "Nick Whitelegg"  wrote:
>
>  ...I'm guessing most pois have a node even if they have an area as well.

That might be the case today but I am assuming that as more buildings are
added then more and more POI's will just be areas.

Mkgmap has a feature to generate POI nodes from POI areas. Maybe you should
do something similar to just compute nodes and add them to free-map.

> - sea: this is because it would be somewhat awkward to have a blue sea
and white land...
>

No problem.

I have been using AFTrack on Android which has a bunch of other neat gpx
and track related features but if it ever stops raining down here I will
definitely test your app some more.

Kevin
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Re: [Talk-GB] OpenTrail - Freemap for Android

2013-02-11 Thread Dave F.

On 11/02/2013 12:59, Nick Whitelegg wrote:


Hi,

Alongside Freemap (free-map.org.uk)


I can't see Bath or Bristol. Is it just me or is there a specific reason?

Cheers
Dave F.
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Re: [Talk-GB] OpenTrail - Freemap for Android

2013-02-11 Thread Nick Whitelegg

Hello Kevin,

Thanks for that. A few comments on your comments:

- Not really sure why that "connection refused" is coming up, seems an odd 
error. Maybe Freemap was just overloaded with requests at that point in time? 
I've never had a problem downloading the map files and have tried from various 
wifi networks.

- Street name labels: just a case of manipulating style file so should be easy 
to sort out.

- POI search: the limiting factor here is what is stored on the Freemap 
database (this is where the data comes from) which I have to minimise due to 
server constraints. If it's just extra poi types it shouldn't be too much of a 
problem but adding area POIs might add a strain on the server. I'm guessing 
most pois have a node even if they have an area as well.

- highway=pedestrian: again just a style file tweak, shoudn't be a problem.

- sea: this is because it would be somewhat awkward to have a blue sea and 
white land. I think it could be done, by creating "land polygons" similar to 
what's done in processed_p.shp, but this would require regeneration of the 
data. I'll try and investigate this at some point but might be a while. 
Currently it's simply a case of rendering natural=coastline in blue.

Nick

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To: Nick Whitelegg 
From: Kevin Peat 
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Date: 11/02/2013 02:46PM
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Subject: Re: [Talk-GB] OpenTrail - Freemap for Android

Hi Nick,

On 11 February 2013 12:59, Nick Whitelegg  wrote:
>
> If you're interested in trying it out...
>

I installed the apk on a Nexus 7. The smallish downloadable packaged
maps are great and the render is nice and clear which is good for
mobile devices.

I did notice a couple of things from first use.

Had to try the map download quite a few times (mostly getting
"Connection to http://www.free-map.org.uk refused";) but managed to
download the SX map in the end. A download progress bar might be a
good idea for a future version as it is hard to know if anything is
happening.

Street name labels are extremely small and don't expand as you zoom in.

The POI search (only checked pubs) seems to only find those mapped as
nodes and not those mapped as areas. Search for other POI types would
also be useful (toilets, convenience stores, etc.).

highway=pedestrian doesn't appear to render.

The sea is rendered as white with just a thick blue line for the
coastline. I guess that is a feature?

Hope this is useful.

regards,
Kevin

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Re: [Talk-GB] OpenTrail - Freemap for Android

2013-02-11 Thread Kevin Peat
Hi Nick,

On 11 February 2013 12:59, Nick Whitelegg  wrote:
>
> If you're interested in trying it out...
>

I installed the apk on a Nexus 7. The smallish downloadable packaged
maps are great and the render is nice and clear which is good for
mobile devices.

I did notice a couple of things from first use.

Had to try the map download quite a few times (mostly getting
"Connection to http://www.free-map.org.uk refused") but managed to
download the SX map in the end. A download progress bar might be a
good idea for a future version as it is hard to know if anything is
happening.

Street name labels are extremely small and don't expand as you zoom in.

The POI search (only checked pubs) seems to only find those mapped as
nodes and not those mapped as areas. Search for other POI types would
also be useful (toilets, convenience stores, etc.).

highway=pedestrian doesn't appear to render.

The sea is rendered as white with just a thick blue line for the
coastline. I guess that is a feature?

Hope this is useful.

regards,
Kevin

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[Talk-GB] OpenTrail - Freemap for Android

2013-02-11 Thread Nick Whitelegg

Hi,

Alongside Freemap (free-map.org.uk) I've been developing an Android app - 
OpenTrail - which basically aims to be Freemap for walkers.
This is now feature complete enough for me to consider it ready for use, though 
note it's still in a beta state and thus there may be bugs.

If you're interested in trying it out, it's available at

http://www.free-map.org.uk/downloads/android/opentrail.apk

It's based on the Mapsforge library (code.google.com/p/mapsforge) and includes:
* Walking maps for all of England (except the awkward bits N of Hadrian's Wall) 
rendered in the Freemap style, with paths coloured according to designation tag 
and OS LandForm panorama contours (Wales, Scotland not covered yet)
* Users can contribute annotations in the field, such as path problems, points 
of interest, and path directions at points of difficulty, which can then be 
viewed live in the field on your device, so the app can be used as a navigation 
tool. It's my aim with Freemap and OpenTrail to collect a crowd-sourced 
database of information for UK walkers. This functionality could be merged with 
the functionality available in fixmypaths (see post a couple of months ago) to 
allow direct reporting of problems to the relevant council.
* Ability to "play" Freemap walking routes in the field. Users can find and 
download nearby walk routes, which are supplied from the server as GPX. The app 
will then "play" the routes so that the instructions for each stage in the walk 
route are presented to the user as they reach the start of that stage.
* Can record a walk route as GPX. This has not been tested yet with walks 
longer than about an hour or so (damned rain!) nor has it been optimised for 
battery use so is not recommended yet as a tool for surveying OSM. Nonetheless 
walk routes can be uploaded to Freemap and shared with other users.

I do want to point out that it's beta software and thus prone to bugs. 
Nonetheless if anyone wants to take part in testing to iron out remaining bugs, 
that would be great!
I should point out that should a crash occur, a bug report is sent over the web 
to a spreadsheet on my Google drive - please only use if you are happy with 
this.

See blog post
http://www.free-map.org.uk/wordpress/?p=273

and full instructions page
http://www.free-map.org.uk/common/opentrail.html

I'm considering the app to be in feature freeze right now, so while suggestions 
for improvement/enhancement are welcome they will not be implemented until the 
0.2 version unless they are reasonably trivial. Also, now I've got a more 
powerful phone I'm wanting to go back to the augmented-reality stuff I was 
working on a couple of years ago.

Nick



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