[Talk-GB] Mapping Archaeology

2013-08-31 Thread Brian Savidge
Hi
A friend of mine belongs to a local Archaeology group and they are going to do 
some surveying shortly using a variety of methods including ground penetrating 
radar.  I thought it would be nice if somehow the results get put onto Open 
Street Map.  
 
Are buried walls and landscape features suitable for recording on Open Street 
Map perhaps at level -1?  I have a feeling I saw something a while ago about a 
parallel open streetmap that was intended for archaeology and recording things 
that are no longer visible, but I have lost the link and can't find any 
references to the site.
 
Any thoughts on the matter?
 
 
 
 
 
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Re: [Talk-GB] Mapping Archaeology

2013-08-31 Thread Steven Horner
Was it http://www.openhistoricalmap.org you were thinking of?
 On 31 Aug 2013 07:15, Brian Savidge a_sn...@hotmail.com wrote:

 Hi
 A friend of mine belongs to a local Archaeology group and they are going
 to do some surveying shortly using a variety of methods including ground
 penetrating radar.  I thought it would be nice if somehow the results
 get put onto Open Street Map.

 Are buried walls and landscape features suitable for recording on Open
 Street Map perhaps at level -1?  I have a feeling I saw something a while
 ago about a parallel open streetmap that was intended for archaeology and
 recording things that are no longer visible, but I have lost the link and
 can't find any references to the site.

 Any thoughts on the matter?






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Re: [Talk-GB] Mapping Archaeology

2013-08-31 Thread lester
Obviously the location of  the site can be identified, and any excavations 
recorded. These are current facts. But I keep watching Time Team and thinking 
that all of the material they gather would make a good base for an historic 
view of the UK. Not sure where we are with the servers for the historic map, 
but in a lot of places the historic view breaks through into the current data! 
So the idea that this material is stored in the same database is in so many 
cases sensible? There is considerably less data that is totally lost to 
redevelopment against that which is now being preserved below that development? 
Being able to view what is actually recorded below that development would be an 
excellent next step? 

Sent from my android tablet, so quoting gets messed up! 

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Hi
A friend of mine belongs to a local Archaeology group and they are going to do 
some surveying shortly using a variety of methods including ground penetrating 
radar.  I thought it would be nice if somehow the results get put onto Open 
Street Map.  
 
Are buried walls and landscape features suitable for recording on Open Street 
Map perhaps at level -1?  I have a feeling I saw something a while ago about a 
parallel open streetmap that was intended for archaeology and recording things 
that are no longer visible, but I have lost the link and can't find any 
references to the site.
 
Any thoughts on the matter?
 
 
 
 
 
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Re: [Talk-GB] Mapping Archaeology

2013-08-31 Thread Brian Savidge
The openhistoricalmap is completely blank for me (both in Internet Explorer and 
Chrome), so I guess it hasn't taken off.
 
It seems a shame not to add the data into OSM in some way assuming the group 
finds something.  Do you know of any examples of areas where groups of 
Archaeologists (like Time Team) have added information into OSM?
 
 
 

 
Date: Sat, 31 Aug 2013 09:04:45 +0100
Subject: Re: [Talk-GB] Mapping Archaeology
From: ste...@stevenhorner.com
To: a_sn...@hotmail.com
CC: talk-gb@openstreetmap.org

Was it http://www.openhistoricalmap.org you were thinking of?


On 31 Aug 2013 07:15, Brian Savidge a_sn...@hotmail.com wrote:




Hi
A friend of mine belongs to a local Archaeology group and they are going to do 
some surveying shortly using a variety of methods including ground penetrating 
radar.  I thought it would be nice if somehow the results get put onto Open 
Street Map.  

 
Are buried walls and landscape features suitable for recording on Open Street 
Map perhaps at level -1?  I have a feeling I saw something a while ago about a 
parallel open streetmap that was intended for archaeology and recording things 
that are no longer visible, but I have lost the link and can't find any 
references to the site.

 
Any thoughts on the matter?
 
 
 
 
 
  

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Re: [Talk-GB] Grounds of Places of Worshiip when not Graveyards

2013-08-31 Thread OpenStreetmap HADW
On 28 August 2013 09:50, sk53.osm sk53@gmail.com wrote:

 new-fangled expensive wedding licences. Or telling my local vicar and his
 wife that they live in a place of worship.

That does rather assume the right building has been marked!  I've just
come across a case where the OS have marked the church hall and left
the church as an ordinary building.  Whilst I mapped it using only the
initial sighting on the ground, and OS OpenData (ignoring their PW),
subsequently checking with other resources, they seem to have thought
the lift motor room, for the hall, was a tower (Pathfinder Series) and
missed the small spire on the church itself, even though the church is
the larger, and more impressive, building.  (I will recheck it on the
ground, but nothing so far seems to contradict my initial mapping.)

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Re: [Talk-GB] Grounds of Places of Worshiip when not Graveyards

2013-08-31 Thread sk53.osm
Exactly why OS Street View should only be used as a guide, not gospel.


On Sat, Aug 31, 2013 at 10:21 AM, OpenStreetmap HADW osmh...@gmail.comwrote:

 On 28 August 2013 09:50, sk53.osm sk53@gmail.com wrote:

  new-fangled expensive wedding licences. Or telling my local vicar and his
  wife that they live in a place of worship.

 That does rather assume the right building has been marked!  I've just
 come across a case where the OS have marked the church hall and left
 the church as an ordinary building.  Whilst I mapped it using only the
 initial sighting on the ground, and OS OpenData (ignoring their PW),
 subsequently checking with other resources, they seem to have thought
 the lift motor room, for the hall, was a tower (Pathfinder Series) and
 missed the small spire on the church itself, even though the church is
 the larger, and more impressive, building.  (I will recheck it on the
 ground, but nothing so far seems to contradict my initial mapping.)

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Re: [Talk-GB] Mapping Archaeology

2013-08-31 Thread sk53.osm
Open Historical Map is a sandbox environment and has only been around for a
few months. It's far too early to write it off.

A more reliable link is probably hosm.gwhat.com, but Jeff Meyer has been
having problems with the servers recently, and it doesn't seem to up atm.

Jerry


On Sat, Aug 31, 2013 at 10:13 AM, Brian Savidge a_sn...@hotmail.com wrote:

 The openhistoricalmap is completely blank for me (both in Internet
 Explorer and Chrome), so I guess it hasn't taken off.

 It seems a shame not to add the data into OSM in some way assuming the
 group finds something.  Do you know of any examples of areas where groups
 of Archaeologists (like Time Team) have added information into OSM?





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 Date: Sat, 31 Aug 2013 09:04:45 +0100
 Subject: Re: [Talk-GB] Mapping Archaeology
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 CC: talk-gb@openstreetmap.org


 Was it http://www.openhistoricalmap.org you were thinking of?
  On 31 Aug 2013 07:15, Brian Savidge a_sn...@hotmail.com wrote:

 Hi
 A friend of mine belongs to a local Archaeology group and they are going
 to do some surveying shortly using a variety of methods including ground
 penetrating radar.  I thought it would be nice if somehow the results
 get put onto Open Street Map.

 Are buried walls and landscape features suitable for recording on Open
 Street Map perhaps at level -1?  I have a feeling I saw something a while
 ago about a parallel open streetmap that was intended for archaeology and
 recording things that are no longer visible, but I have lost the link and
 can't find any references to the site.

 Any thoughts on the matter?






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