[Talk-gb-westmidlands] Update shops, pubs and restaurants
Dear all, All Birmingham shops, pubs and restaurants within the Queensway are now on the map (except if I overlooked any, of course). Most of the shops, pubs and restaurant had already been mapped by brianboru and pigsonthewing (thanks for that!). I made a new complete survey, and added everything that we didn't have yet (mainly in malls/arcades, and a couple of places that changed since the last survey). I also added the shops in the Bullring. Maybe it would be an idea to set up some kind of page in which we track in which parts of Birmingham the shops still need to be surveyed? What would be the best way to set this up? Kind regards, Matthijs ___ Talk-gb-westmidlands mailing list Talk-gb-westmidlands@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb-westmidlands
Re: [Talk-GB] Upcoming changes to OpenStreetMap.org website
On 15/11/2013 20:15, Rob Nickerson wrote: (The aim of this email is to provide prior knowledge of an upcoming change to the OSM website and to give you an opportunity to provide constructive feedback) I very much like the fact it is responsive on small screens. Would it be possible to have a dismiss button on the Welcome to OpenStreetMap box (including Learn More and Sign Up, but not including search)? Just like the x on the panels that replace it, e.g. when you search. Perhaps if you dismiss it it could join the green buttons as 'Welcome' to get it back. On iPad and netbooks, this box takes up a substantial part of the screen obscuring the map. Less of a problem on larger screens, but still intrusive if you want to see the whole map. Clearly it is a very important part of the page when the whole point is to promote OSM, but being able to make it go away would be helpful when you're just trying to make use of the map. Why do some of the links in the header have boxes round them and others don't? David ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
Re: [Talk-GB] Upcoming changes to OpenStreetMap.org website
On 15/11/2013 20:15, Rob Nickerson wrote: (The aim of this email is to provide prior knowledge of an upcoming change to the OSM website and to give you an opportunity to provide constructive feedback) One other thing... notes are really helpful, and not immediately new though they were introduced on the way to these changes. I have a feed on the whole of my area, but in dealing with these I've seen two problems which I imagine others have too... 1. Some people think they are adding a personal note, not making feedback. (this is kind of analogous to the pervasive problem with Potlatch earlier on where people didn't realise they were live editing the database). I think this would largely go away if the button (on hover, layer toggle caption, and the headline in the new panel) were labelled 'Feedback' or 'Report a problem' 2. Many reports are of 'missing' things, which are already on the map. Many times they haven't zoomed in enough to see the feature (e.g. a 'missing' pub); others it really is missing in the rendering, but not in the data because of the way the renderer randomly drops POIs and captions if they clash with others. Latter is beyond scope of this, but could the text in the salmon box ask them to please zoom in to maximum to make sure it isn't already there? David ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
Re: [Talk-GB] Upcoming changes to OpenStreetMap.org website
I wondered when the SOTM-suggested redesign would surface :) For me (regarding the redesigned version): - The mobile website looks better (menus hidden in the typical menu section), though the top title bar could be shrunk a little IMO. - The regular website is better on my little netbook screen a) the wider/shorter search/welcome piece is an improvement, even if simply due to the absence of a vertical scroll bar due to the height of the previous left-hand sidebar. b) I would second (third?) the comment re the ability to 'X' or drop down/up the welcome piece, though when to have it (re)display by default (new window/tab, new session, cookie/duration) isn't clear. c) Another thing is that the Edit box requires log-in, so... is there a reason that the 'log in' isn't the main route to editing, or should it really be greyed out until the user is logged-in (with a hover-tip)? I suppose this is about making people aware that it can be edited (online)? d) Lastly, the same point applies as per the mobile website, that the top white bar is higher/deeper now; it may be more aesthetically pleasing, but for those of us with tiny screens it's a little frustrating? Do we need to forward our comments to the talk list, or is there some other official channel to make comments to? -- Neil On 16 November 2013 18:01, ael law_ence@ntlworld.com wrote: On Sat, Nov 16, 2013 at 01:36:40PM +, David Earl wrote: On 15/11/2013 20:15, Rob Nickerson wrote: (The aim of this email is to provide prior knowledge of an upcoming change to the OSM website and to give you an opportunity to provide constructive feedback) Would it be possible to have a dismiss button on the Welcome to OpenStreetMap box (including Learn More and Sign Up, but not including search)? Just like the x on the panels that replace it, e.g. when you search. Perhaps if you dismiss it it could join the green buttons as 'Welcome' to get it back. On iPad and netbooks, this box takes up a substantial part of the screen obscuring the map. Less of a problem on larger screens, but still intrusive if you want to see the whole map. Clearly it is a very important part of the page when the whole point is to promote OSM, but being able to make it go away would be helpful when you're just trying to make use of the map. +1 ael ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
Re: [Talk-GB] Upcoming changes to OpenStreetMap.org website
+2 Regards Nick On 16/11/13 18:01, ael wrote: On Sat, Nov 16, 2013 at 01:36:40PM +, David Earl wrote: On 15/11/2013 20:15, Rob Nickerson wrote: (The aim of this email is to provide prior knowledge of an upcoming change to the OSM website and to give you an opportunity to provide constructive feedback) Would it be possible to have a dismiss button on the Welcome to OpenStreetMap box (including Learn More and Sign Up, but not including search)? Just like the x on the panels that replace it, e.g. when you search. Perhaps if you dismiss it it could join the green buttons as 'Welcome' to get it back. On iPad and netbooks, this box takes up a substantial part of the screen obscuring the map. Less of a problem on larger screens, but still intrusive if you want to see the whole map. Clearly it is a very important part of the page when the whole point is to promote OSM, but being able to make it go away would be helpful when you're just trying to make use of the map. +1 ael ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
Re: [Talk-GB] Upcoming changes to OpenStreetMap.org website
The Welcome box doesn't linger once you've logged in, so in a way having it in the way may encourage some to join and login? Jonathan http://bigfatfrog67.me On 16/11/2013 18:01, ael wrote: On Sat, Nov 16, 2013 at 01:36:40PM +, David Earl wrote: On 15/11/2013 20:15, Rob Nickerson wrote: (The aim of this email is to provide prior knowledge of an upcoming change to the OSM website and to give you an opportunity to provide constructive feedback) Would it be possible to have a dismiss button on the Welcome to OpenStreetMap box (including Learn More and Sign Up, but not including search)? Just like the x on the panels that replace it, e.g. when you search. Perhaps if you dismiss it it could join the green buttons as 'Welcome' to get it back. On iPad and netbooks, this box takes up a substantial part of the screen obscuring the map. Less of a problem on larger screens, but still intrusive if you want to see the whole map. Clearly it is a very important part of the page when the whole point is to promote OSM, but being able to make it go away would be helpful when you're just trying to make use of the map. +1 ael ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
[Talk-GB] Upcoming changes to OpenStreetMap.org website
Thanks for all the comments so far. I will communicate them back to the github pull request [1] on your behalf. In regards to the comment about wanting a [x] button on the welcome text, it does disappear for logged in users and small screen devices. As for non logged in users this request has been raised already. I will mention that it has been brought up again, but I wouldn't hold out much hope for this one to change. The previous response was that it provides a nice impetus to create an account. :) Regards, Rob [1] https://github.com/openstreetmap/openstreetmap-website/pull/498#issuecomment-28309700 ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
Re: [Talk-GB] Upcoming changes to OpenStreetMap.org website
On Sat, Nov 16, 2013 at 09:45:57PM +, Rob Nickerson wrote: In regards to the comment about wanting a [x] button on the welcome text, it does disappear for logged in users and small screen devices. As for non logged in users this request has been raised already. I will mention that it has been brought up again, but I wouldn't hold out much hope for this one to change. The previous response was that it provides a nice impetus to create an account. :) That's just silly - the previous response. Why should one waste time logging in even if already a contributor when just wanting to *use* the map? Potential contributors will want to be convinced that the map is useful before being motivated to join. ael ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
Re: [Talk-GB] Upcoming changes to OpenStreetMap.org website
On 16/11/13 19:01, Neil Pilgrim wrote: c) Another thing is that the Edit box requires log-in, so... is there a reason that the 'log in' isn't the main route to editing, or should it really be greyed out until the user is logged-in (with a hover-tip)? I suppose this is about making people aware that it can be edited (online)? There's no change in behaviour here is there? The edit link presumably still takes you to the login screen if you're note already logged in just as it does now. Surely that is more user friendly than disabling it and making people guess that they need to login to enable it? In any case, if it isn't a regression then it's out of scope as a bug report against the redesign. Tom -- Tom Hughes (t...@compton.nu) http://compton.nu/ ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
Re: [Talk-GB] Upcoming changes to OpenStreetMap.org website
On 16/11/13 23:19, ael wrote: On Sat, Nov 16, 2013 at 09:45:57PM +, Rob Nickerson wrote: In regards to the comment about wanting a [x] button on the welcome text, it does disappear for logged in users and small screen devices. As for non logged in users this request has been raised already. I will mention that it has been brought up again, but I wouldn't hold out much hope for this one to change. The previous response was that it provides a nice impetus to create an account. :) That's just silly - the previous response. Why should one waste time logging in even if already a contributor when just wanting to *use* the map? The point is that just using the map is not our target audience. As has been said many times, we are not trying to be an end user mapping site that offers a Google Maps alternative for the masses. Our target audience is people that want to signup and contribute. Tom -- Tom Hughes (t...@compton.nu) http://compton.nu/ ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
