[Talk-GB] Hobbyist OSM Data Server?
Hi, This idea was suggested by another attendee at SOTM this year but I think it would definitely be a good idea from my own experiences. To my mind, the biggest barrier to hobbyist, not-for-profit developers wishing to set up OSM-related web projects (apart from time, of course) is, and always has been since the early days of OSM, the cost of running a server to handle large amounts of data. With increased volumes of data it is even more the case now. It is certainly the biggest limitation on my own site Freemap and its associated projects, such as the augmented reality project Hikar.For around £25 a month I get quite a decent server but even still, I am constrained to only offering data for selected areas of the UK (much of England away from the urban areas, and all of Wales). I would imagine there are lots of other people in a similar situation, who would like to offer not for profit projects but are constrained by the costs of hosting. So I'm wondering whether we could, if enough people raise contributions, have an OSM read only, hobbyist server which could be used to host not-for-profit, open source (only) projects. it could be either global or just for the UK (or any other individual country). It could contain a copy of the OSM PostGIS database then developers could be free to host server side code which delivers that data in whatever format fits their own needs (GeoJSON, some binary vector format, or anything else). Obviously such a thing would cost but I'm wondering whether the funds could be raised? At the moment, assuming my work circumstances change, I could probably contribute £50 towards buying it in the first place (possibly £100 if it was a definite goer) plus £10/month running costs. Seeing as I don't get any income it's unlikely I could go above these values. What do people think? Thanks, Nick ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
[Talk-GB] Fwd: [OSM-talk] SotM-EU 2014 in Karlsruhe, Germany
Hello all, See the message below regarding SotM-EU in June. http://www.sotm-eu.org/ From past experience you can get cheap flights to Stuttgart, although I might get the train again if I have time (the journey is a holiday in itself). Greg. -- Forwarded message -- From: Frederik Ramm frede...@remote.org Date: 5 December 2013 14:33 Subject: [OSM-talk] SotM-EU 2014 in Karlsruhe, Germany To: Talk Openstreetmap t...@openstreetmap.org, d...@openstreetmap.org d...@openstreetmap.org Hi, today I have the pleasure to announce that we'll be holding SotM-EU 2014 in Karlsruhe, on 13-15 June. We've set up the web page at www.sotm-eu.org and we'll be posting news there and on @sotmeu on Twitter. We'll be trying to emulate the success of the 2011 Vienna conference, bringing together everyone who does anything interesting in with OpenStreetMap in Europe. The call for papers will be out soon, with registration to open early 2014. We already have a good international programme committee preparing that but if you'd like to join the programme committee or otherwise help organising the conference (or aspects of it), don't be shy and write to i...@sotm-eu.org. Same if you have any ideas that you'd like the organisers to consider. We'll be distributing this announcement to the dev and talk lists as well as to talk-fr and talk-de. If you are on one of the other regional European lists, we would be grateful if you could forward the announcement. I'm looking forward to seeing you in Karlsruhe next year! Bye Frederik PS: we = the local Karlsruhe team everyone involved -- Frederik Ramm ## eMail frede...@remote.org ## N49°00'09 E008°23'33 ___ talk mailing list t...@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk -- Gregory o...@livingwithdragons.com http://www.livingwithdragons.com ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
Re: [Talk-GB] Hobbyist OSM Data Server?
For around £25 a month I get quite a decent server but even still, I am constrained to only offering data for selected areas of the UK (much of England away from the urban areas, and all of Wales). What sort of spec machine are we taking about for a GB extract? The main problem is less the osm2pgsql extraction (which can be run in slim mode to conserve memory) and more the speed of accessing the postgis database to grab the data. My current machine (Bytemark VM) has 1GB memory, 20GB disc space, 1 core. See: http://www.bytemark.co.uk/hosting/virtual_machines With caching the generated GeoJSON data and a cron job to re-render tiles, this can (only just!) cope with an extract covering part of England and all of Wales, see http://www.free-map.org.uk/0.6/about.html#village Not sure, without looking up, what percentage of the data is used by Freemap, but given London, Birmingham etc are missed out, as well as the whole of Scotland and most of the Midlands and East Anglia, I'm guessing abput 25% or so. I can check later though. Nick ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
Re: [Talk-GB] Hobbyist OSM Data Server?
Nick Whitelegg wrote: What sort of spec machine are we taking about for a GB extract? The main problem is less the osm2pgsql extraction (which can be run in slim mode to conserve memory) and more the speed of accessing the postgis database to grab the data. Very much 'work in progress' ... a new initial extract is running as we speak :) http://lsces.co.uk/wiki/OSM+Data+Mirror+on+SUSE13.1 I have OSRM running on that machine http://osrm.rdm2.co.uk/main.html and am planning to drop another machine over to Sheffield to do the rendering for my own tile set, but I've had this all running nicely on a local machine, only restricted by 'BT Broadband' so once it's all on a nice fast pipe everything should be a bit more accessible. While the crib sheets are freely accessible, they are mainly intended as my own guide to keeping everything running, and rebuilding machines if required. Any corrections or improvements are MOST welcome! -- Lester Caine - G8HFL - Contact - http://lsces.co.uk/wiki/?page=contact L.S.Caine Electronic Services - http://lsces.co.uk EnquirySolve - http://enquirysolve.com/ Model Engineers Digital Workshop - http://medw.co.uk Rainbow Digital Media - http://rainbowdigitalmedia.co.uk ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
