[Talk-GB] Fire Roads (Leeds, Nottingham, etc)

2017-02-02 Thread Paul Berry
Hi everyone,

Fire roads are an uncommon sight in the UK. They're sometimes signed as
"fire lanes," but they're nothing to do with the designation in the US (and
elsewhere) which is a parking restriction:
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:parking:lane and we're also not
talking about the wide tracks in managed forests that act as a firebreak.

I mean restricted highways like this one:
http://www.openstreetmap.org/way/240007969 (whose source links to photo
evidence).

How do we map these? I assume service=emergency_access?

Also, how is the embedded roughly-textured paving in that photo best
represented?

There are some similar ones in Nottingham, notably at Addington Road and
Wimbourne Road there, though they're not mapped as such.

Your advice and guidance gratefully received.

Regards,
*Paul*
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Re: [Talk-GB] any cyclists familiar with Calder Aire link

2017-02-02 Thread Andy Townsend

On 28/01/2017 15:03, David Groom wrote:

There seems a lot of duplication in these two route relations:

https://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/2171660

https://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/1573805

Both are titled "Calder Aire link"




One is route=foot, another route=mtb.  Presumably that is why there are 2.

Wherever I've encountered it, the Calder Aire link has always been just 
one route for all traffic.  That's not the case for others in that area 
though - the Pennine Bridleway has different routes for horse, foot and 
bicycle traffic in places.  That said, the addition of the A road to the 
relation at 
https://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/1573805#map=19/53.80651/-1.95819 
looks like a cockup.


Cheers,

Andy
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Re: [Talk-gb-westmidlands] [Talk-GB] New editors working on parks

2017-02-02 Thread Andy Robinson
Mark, Welcome :-)

Probably not really a problem here in the UK because there are enough editors 
watching over the data to spot big issues. Thus far any inappropriate additions 
to the database have mostly been very local to the specific user, like adding 
extra bits to parks, creating new ones in their area or the odd change of tag 
to a water feature. They are easily reverted when spotted as these Pokémon 
users don’t seem to be going on to continually add stuff. Hopefully it will 
stay that way.

Cheers
Andy

-Original Message-
From: Mark Croft Redditch Linux Mint [mailto:mark.croft@gmail.com] 
Sent: 02 February 2017 01:02
To: Andy Robinson
Cc: SK53; talk-gb-westmidlands; talk-gb
Subject: Re: [Talk-gb-westmidlands] [Talk-GB] New editors working on parks

not sure i am replying correct sorry it i am doing this all wrong.

does this extra traffic for the pokemo go game going to be a problem?

i will check around batchley and areas i visit in redditch not noticed any big 
interest in edits..

is there a special area on the OSM website too look for all these updates, i am 
very New to OSM.. still dipping my toes in the water...


On 27 January 2017 at 16:44, Andy Robinson  wrote:
> Oh joys J
>
>
>
> On the plus side there are a lot more new users in those 30 ish who 
> have added more than one item and one or two who have added some 
> really good new stuff, so in some ways the attention will have some upsides.
>
>
>
> Just need to be vigilant around our own patches.
>
>
>
> Cheers
>
> Andy
>
>
>
> From: SK53 [mailto:sk53@gmail.com]
> Sent: 27 January 2017 16:16
> To: Andy Robinson
> Cc: talk-gb; talk-gb-westmidlands
> Subject: Re: [Talk-GB] New editors working on parks
>
>
>
> Hi Andy,
>
>
> These are Pokemon Go edits driven by the fact that the South Korea 
> release of the game is definitely using OSM as the base map.
>
> Total number of editors has picked up massively worldwide in the past 
> few days with a ridiculous peak of 3000 new users a minute sometime 
> this afternoon (although this may be a SEO-driven peak in the US).
>
> Certainly whatever the basis of the influx its quite a lot to handle 
> for existing 'data curators'. See the current range of changeset discussions.
> It's difficult to be sure, but I think there's an uptick in other edits too.
>
> Jerry
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On 27 January 2017 at 16:03, Andy Robinson  wrote:
>
> There has been a large number of new editors in the wider midlands 
> over the last few days (32 since Monday) most of which have been 
> adding new or adding to exiting park areas. Some are fine first edits 
> (a little awkward in placed but not unreasonable) but others are not, 
> so if it's also happening in your area keep a close eye. I'm reverting 
> those in my watch rectangle that are obviously inappropriate and I, 
> along with I note some others, have added some changeset comments to 
> try and make contact where appropriate, though thus far no responses.
>
> Mostly these seem to be id edits so I'm guessing perhaps a University 
> course or something.
>
> Cheers
> Andy
>
>
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Re: [Talk-GB] [Talk-gb-westmidlands] New editors working on parks

2017-02-02 Thread Andy Robinson
Mark, Welcome :-)

Probably not really a problem here in the UK because there are enough editors 
watching over the data to spot big issues. Thus far any inappropriate additions 
to the database have mostly been very local to the specific user, like adding 
extra bits to parks, creating new ones in their area or the odd change of tag 
to a water feature. They are easily reverted when spotted as these Pokémon 
users don’t seem to be going on to continually add stuff. Hopefully it will 
stay that way.

Cheers
Andy

-Original Message-
From: Mark Croft Redditch Linux Mint [mailto:mark.croft@gmail.com] 
Sent: 02 February 2017 01:02
To: Andy Robinson
Cc: SK53; talk-gb-westmidlands; talk-gb
Subject: Re: [Talk-gb-westmidlands] [Talk-GB] New editors working on parks

not sure i am replying correct sorry it i am doing this all wrong.

does this extra traffic for the pokemo go game going to be a problem?

i will check around batchley and areas i visit in redditch not noticed any big 
interest in edits..

is there a special area on the OSM website too look for all these updates, i am 
very New to OSM.. still dipping my toes in the water...


On 27 January 2017 at 16:44, Andy Robinson  wrote:
> Oh joys J
>
>
>
> On the plus side there are a lot more new users in those 30 ish who 
> have added more than one item and one or two who have added some 
> really good new stuff, so in some ways the attention will have some upsides.
>
>
>
> Just need to be vigilant around our own patches.
>
>
>
> Cheers
>
> Andy
>
>
>
> From: SK53 [mailto:sk53@gmail.com]
> Sent: 27 January 2017 16:16
> To: Andy Robinson
> Cc: talk-gb; talk-gb-westmidlands
> Subject: Re: [Talk-GB] New editors working on parks
>
>
>
> Hi Andy,
>
>
> These are Pokemon Go edits driven by the fact that the South Korea 
> release of the game is definitely using OSM as the base map.
>
> Total number of editors has picked up massively worldwide in the past 
> few days with a ridiculous peak of 3000 new users a minute sometime 
> this afternoon (although this may be a SEO-driven peak in the US).
>
> Certainly whatever the basis of the influx its quite a lot to handle 
> for existing 'data curators'. See the current range of changeset discussions.
> It's difficult to be sure, but I think there's an uptick in other edits too.
>
> Jerry
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On 27 January 2017 at 16:03, Andy Robinson  wrote:
>
> There has been a large number of new editors in the wider midlands 
> over the last few days (32 since Monday) most of which have been 
> adding new or adding to exiting park areas. Some are fine first edits 
> (a little awkward in placed but not unreasonable) but others are not, 
> so if it's also happening in your area keep a close eye. I'm reverting 
> those in my watch rectangle that are obviously inappropriate and I, 
> along with I note some others, have added some changeset comments to 
> try and make contact where appropriate, though thus far no responses.
>
> Mostly these seem to be id edits so I'm guessing perhaps a University 
> course or something.
>
> Cheers
> Andy
>
>
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