Re: [Talk-GB] Birmingham Tree Import
Surely instead of just using email to let users know about comments on changesets and notes, there should be some sort of notification on the OSM website as well? There already is a notification in the top right corner for unread messages - this should be extended to changesets and notes. There will always be some people who have problems with emails getting through to them, so they shouldn't be solely relied upon. On 13/04/2017 16:53, Andy Townsend wrote: On 13/04/2017 16:12, Brian Prangle wrote: On the subject of fixing things, my block seems to have been precipitated by my not participating in changeset discussions of which I still remain oblivious because apparently the automatic email notification system breaks randomly and it seems I'm one of its victims. I can't fix this and I think it's a problem of at least two years standing. I've seen a few different ways that emails can "not be delivered"; the good news is that they're all user-fixable. 1) One kind of problem is over-zealous spam filtering by your email provider. A bit of training (regularly checking spam folders and fishing valid mail out) should work here. If it doesn't, change your email provider. With gmail (which your list mail and mine are using) I occasionally have to check the junk folder to fish out non-English emails, but otherwise it's pretty good at spam recognition. 2) Another is that you've tried to change email addresses in the past and not confirmed the "new" address. To fix this go into "My Settings" and change email again, this time making sure that you click on the link within the "Confirm your e-mail address" email. 3) A third problem I've seen (but pretty unlikely to be the case here) is where you'd specified to your email provider that you want email delivered to a particular host and then for whatever reason that becomes impossible (perhaps the target server goes down). Again, fix the problem that prevents email delivery, reconfirm the settings with your email provider and hosts should start retrying again shortly. In the meantime is there any workround for viewing changeset discussions? The ubiquitous Pascal Neis has an answer that's actually far better than a workaround. Using the userid for a particular user you can browse to e.g.: http://resultmaps.neis-one.org/osm-discussion-comments?uid=9065 or you can click through from an entry in e.g. http://resultmaps.neis-one.org/osm-discussions?c=United%20Kingdom . Best Regards, Andy ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
Re: [Talk-GB] Birmingham Tree Import
On Thu, Apr 13, 2017 at 04:53:12PM +0100, Andy Townsend wrote: > On 13/04/2017 16:12, Brian Prangle wrote: > > > > precipitated by my not participating in changeset discussions of which I > > still remain oblivious because apparently the automatic email > > notification system breaks randomly and it seems I'm one of its victims. > > I've seen a few different ways that emails can "not be delivered"; the good > news is that they're all user-fixable. Although very few of my changesets have provoked discussion, so my memory could be at fault, I am fairly confident that I only discovered them by accident. And none of the 3 suggested causes applies in my case. ael ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
Re: [Talk-GB] Birmingham Tree Import
On 13/04/2017 16:12, Brian Prangle wrote: On the subject of fixing things, my block seems to have been precipitated by my not participating in changeset discussions of which I still remain oblivious because apparently the automatic email notification system breaks randomly and it seems I'm one of its victims. I can't fix this and I think it's a problem of at least two years standing. I've seen a few different ways that emails can "not be delivered"; the good news is that they're all user-fixable. 1) One kind of problem is over-zealous spam filtering by your email provider. A bit of training (regularly checking spam folders and fishing valid mail out) should work here. If it doesn't, change your email provider. With gmail (which your list mail and mine are using) I occasionally have to check the junk folder to fish out non-English emails, but otherwise it's pretty good at spam recognition. 2) Another is that you've tried to change email addresses in the past and not confirmed the "new" address. To fix this go into "My Settings" and change email again, this time making sure that you click on the link within the "Confirm your e-mail address" email. 3) A third problem I've seen (but pretty unlikely to be the case here) is where you'd specified to your email provider that you want email delivered to a particular host and then for whatever reason that becomes impossible (perhaps the target server goes down). Again, fix the problem that prevents email delivery, reconfirm the settings with your email provider and hosts should start retrying again shortly. In the meantime is there any workround for viewing changeset discussions? The ubiquitous Pascal Neis has an answer that's actually far better than a workaround. Using the userid for a particular user you can browse to e.g.: http://resultmaps.neis-one.org/osm-discussion-comments?uid=9065 or you can click through from an entry in e.g. http://resultmaps.neis-one.org/osm-discussions?c=United%20Kingdom . Best Regards, Andy ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
[Talk-GB] Birmingham Tree Import
Hi everyone Thank you all for your interest in the import of trees in Birmingham. If we'd realised they were this interesting we certainly wouldn't have gone down the road we did. We genuinely thought that the trees of Birmingham wouldn't interest anyone outside of Birmingham and discussion with the local community meant what it said. I believe the latter is is still an open question and worthy of discussion in a separate thread. I'm starting a new thread to discuss how we recover the situation, please don't descend it into a death spiral of negativity which solves nothing and just leaves everyone angry and upset. So thank you to Harry Wood for setting the process going with a wikipage. I've followed up by creating a dedicated import account with which I propose to eventually complete the import and of course do any bulk edits on the existing data that become necessary. *For these two omissions I believe I have been justifiably chastised and I am duly contrite. My real fault is being too enthusiastic so reeling me back in has done me good.* On the subject of fixing things, my block seems to have been precipitated by my not participating in changeset discussions of which I still remain oblivious because apparently the automatic email notification system breaks randomly and it seems I'm one of its victims. I can't fix this and I think it's a problem of at least two years standing. Can I ask that it be given some priority? How many others are being caught like this and being less thick-skinned than me are turned off participating again? In the meantime is there any workround for viewing changeset discussions? Regards Brian Lighten up everyone, OpenStreetMap is meant to be fun. If it's stopped being fun: stop! ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
