Re: [Talk-GB] BBC News - Google Map Maker edit tools extended to cover the UK
On 11/04/2013 16:19, Borbus wrote: Indeed, and the bit about OSM is found in the bottom 3/4 of the article which, let's be honest, most people will not see. The BBC News technology section is usually just an advert for big tech companies like Apple, Google and Microsoft. Terrible really. True. The Click segment on the News channel is almost too embarrassing to watch due to the fawning. Dave F. ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
[Talk-GB] BBC News - Google Map Maker edit tools extended to cover the UK
No mention of OSM in this piece: http://m.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-22099960 ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
Re: [Talk-GB] BBC News - Google Map Maker edit tools extended to cover the UK
On 11 April 2013 08:12, Andy Mabbett a...@pigsonthewing.org.uk wrote: No mention of OSM in this piece: http://m.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-22099960 Google has been getting a free pass from the media but now they are making hardware that may change, waiting for the Nexus sweatshop / employee suicide stories to emerge. It will be interesting to see if they get enough contributors to even sort out the mess that gmaps poi's are in let alone to add buildings, etc. Outside of a few urban centres I don't see it myself. Kevin ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
Re: [Talk-GB] BBC News - Google Map Maker edit tools extended to cover the UK
You can always call the BBC up and ask if they would like a quote to give the piece balance. The Beeb love their balance, they get nervous if you suggest a piece lacks balance. So you'd suggest that the article includes a quote from critics who point out that the data is only available to Google, unlike OSM, blah. I don't have the number for the technology news desk, but the number for the web site general newsdesk used to be 0207 765 1065 and if you get through to any part of the news operation and ask for the web site technology desk they should put you through. Not that we have a press officer but Harry has done good work in the past putting out press releases :-) Tom On 11 April 2013 10:39, Kevin Peat k...@k3v.eu wrote: On 11 April 2013 08:12, Andy Mabbett a...@pigsonthewing.org.uk wrote: No mention of OSM in this piece: http://m.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-22099960 Google has been getting a free pass from the media but now they are making hardware that may change, waiting for the Nexus sweatshop / employee suicide stories to emerge. It will be interesting to see if they get enough contributors to even sort out the mess that gmaps poi's are in let alone to add buildings, etc. Outside of a few urban centres I don't see it myself. Kevin ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb -- http://tom.acrewoods.net http://twitter.com/tom_chance ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
Re: [Talk-GB] BBC News - Google Map Maker edit tools extended to cover the UK
I've just had an email from Leo, who wrote the piece and it seems he may add to it including a reference to the closed nature of OSM and acknowledging OSM. I also pointed him to RichardF's tweet describing crowd-serfing https://twitter.com/richardf/status/296244090415239168 -- Cheers, Chris user: chillly On 11/04/13 11:03, Tom Chance wrote: You can always call the BBC up and ask if they would like a quote to give the piece balance. The Beeb love their balance, they get nervous if you suggest a piece lacks balance. So you'd suggest that the article includes a quote from critics who point out that the data is only available to Google, unlike OSM, blah. I don't have the number for the technology news desk, but the number for the web site general newsdesk used to be 0207 765 1065 and if you get through to any part of the news operation and ask for the web site technology desk they should put you through. Not that we have a press officer but Harry has done good work in the past putting out press releases :-) Tom On 11 April 2013 10:39, Kevin Peat k...@k3v.eu mailto:k...@k3v.eu wrote: On 11 April 2013 08:12, Andy Mabbett a...@pigsonthewing.org.uk mailto:a...@pigsonthewing.org.uk wrote: No mention of OSM in this piece: http://m.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-22099960 Google has been getting a free pass from the media but now they are making hardware that may change, waiting for the Nexus sweatshop / employee suicide stories to emerge. It will be interesting to see if they get enough contributors to even sort out the mess that gmaps poi's are in let alone to add buildings, etc. Outside of a few urban centres I don't see it myself. Kevin ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
Re: [Talk-GB] BBC News - Google Map Maker edit tools extended to cover the UK
Sorry, that should, of course, been the closed nature of Google data. On 11/04/13 12:49, Chris Hill wrote: I've just had an email from Leo, who wrote the piece and it seems he may add to it including a reference to the closed nature of OSM and acknowledging OSM. I also pointed him to RichardF's tweet describing crowd-serfing https://twitter.com/richardf/status/296244090415239168 -- Cheers, Chris user: chillly ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
Re: [Talk-GB] BBC News - Google Map Maker edit tools extended to cover the UK
I've noticed this page has a description of the difference: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Google_map_maker On 11 April 2013 12:51, Chris Hill o...@raggedred.net wrote: Sorry, that should, of course, been the closed nature of Google data. On 11/04/13 12:49, Chris Hill wrote: I've just had an email from Leo, who wrote the piece and it seems he may add to it including a reference to the closed nature of OSM and acknowledging OSM. I also pointed him to RichardF's tweet describing crowd-serfing https://twitter.com/richardf/**status/296244090415239168https://twitter.com/richardf/status/296244090415239168 -- Cheers, Chris user: chillly __**_ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.**org/listinfo/talk-gbhttp://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb -- Gregory o...@livingwithdragons.com http://www.livingwithdragons.com ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
Re: [Talk-GB] BBC News - Google Map Maker edit tools extended to cover the UK
Great. I did approach him on Twitter; he's @LeoKelion, but hasn't replied. On Apr 11, 2013 12:49 PM, Chris Hill o...@raggedred.net wrote: I've just had an email from Leo, who wrote the piece and it seems he may add to it including a reference to the closed nature of OSM and acknowledging OSM. I also pointed him to RichardF's tweet describing crowd-serfing https://twitter.com/richardf/**status/296244090415239168https://twitter.com/richardf/status/296244090415239168 -- Cheers, Chris user: chillly On 11/04/13 11:03, Tom Chance wrote: You can always call the BBC up and ask if they would like a quote to give the piece balance. The Beeb love their balance, they get nervous if you suggest a piece lacks balance. So you'd suggest that the article includes a quote from critics who point out that the data is only available to Google, unlike OSM, blah. I don't have the number for the technology news desk, but the number for the web site general newsdesk used to be 0207 765 1065 and if you get through to any part of the news operation and ask for the web site technology desk they should put you through. Not that we have a press officer but Harry has done good work in the past putting out press releases :-) Tom On 11 April 2013 10:39, Kevin Peat k...@k3v.eu mailto:k...@k3v.eu wrote: On 11 April 2013 08:12, Andy Mabbett a...@pigsonthewing.org.uk mailto:andy@pigsonthewing.**org.uk a...@pigsonthewing.org.uk wrote: No mention of OSM in this piece: http://m.bbc.co.uk/news/**technology-22099960http://m.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-22099960 Google has been getting a free pass from the media but now they are making hardware that may change, waiting for the Nexus sweatshop / employee suicide stories to emerge. It will be interesting to see if they get enough contributors to even sort out the mess that gmaps poi's are in let alone to add buildings, etc. Outside of a few urban centres I don't see it myself. Kevin __**_ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.**org/listinfo/talk-gbhttp://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
Re: [Talk-GB] BBC News - Google Map Maker edit tools extended to cover the UK
In case people haven't noticed, the article has been updated with a quote from Chris about OSM. Matt On 11 April 2013 14:44, Grant Slater openstreet...@firefishy.com wrote: On 11 April 2013 14:14, Andy Mabbett a...@pigsonthewing.org.uk wrote: Great. I did approach him on Twitter; he's @LeoKelion, but hasn't replied. And a few others :-) https://twitter.com/firefishy1/status/322285311587655680 https://twitter.com/firefishy1/status/322286200058687488 https://twitter.com/smsm1/status/322286570034044928 https://twitter.com/richardf/status/322286644499722240 https://twitter.com/GeorgeCredland/status/322288544850776064 https://twitter.com/rfsql/status/322318091382030336 https://twitter.com/gregorymarler/status/322327967718068224 Pre-empt https://twitter.com/firefishy1/status/322313548787249152 https://twitter.com/firefishy1/status/322313855634120705 / Grant ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb -- Matt Williams http://milliams.com ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
Re: [Talk-GB] BBC News - Google Map Maker edit tools extended to cover the UK
On 11/04/2013 08:12, Andy Mabbett wrote: No mention of OSM in this piece: http://m.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-22099960 A couple of quotes from Chris has now been added, however it still disappointing it reads like an advert even an instruction manual. Dave F. ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
Re: [Talk-GB] BBC News - Google Map Maker edit tools extended to cover the UK
On 11 April 2013 14:53, Matt Williams li...@milliams.com wrote: In case people haven't noticed, the article has been updated with a quote from Chris about OSM. Well done! Tom -- http://tom.acrewoods.net http://twitter.com/tom_chance ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
Re: [Talk-GB] BBC News - Google Map Maker edit tools extended to cover the UK
On 11/04/13 14:59, Dave F. wrote: On 11/04/2013 08:12, Andy Mabbett wrote: No mention of OSM in this piece: http://m.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-22099960 A couple of quotes from Chris has now been added, however it still disappointing it reads like an advert even an instruction manual. Indeed, and the bit about OSM is found in the bottom 3/4 of the article which, let's be honest, most people will not see. The BBC News technology section is usually just an advert for big tech companies like Apple, Google and Microsoft. Terrible really. -- Borbus. ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
