Re: [Talk-GB] Fwd: [Talk-scotland] Estate Agent Solicitors

[Philip Barnes]

On Mon, 2017-02-20 at 11:58 +, Paul Oldham wrote:
> On 20/02/17 11:50, SK53 wrote:
> 
> > A couple of other points:
> > 
> >   * I think office=lawyer is more widely used than UK specific
> > terms
> > like solicitor.
> 
> Funnily enough I was just reading the wiki page on that very thing.
> So I 
> should have
> 
> office=lawyer
> lawyer=solicitor
> 
> As per https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:office%3Dlawyer
> 
> >   * You could also do shop=estate_agent;office=lawyer too.
> > Certainly
> > around Nottingham we use shop=estate_agent for walk-in high
> > street
> > agents, and office=estate_agent for mainly commercial agents
> > who are
> > usually not located in retail premises. Others regard anywhere
> > that
> > does not allow immediate purchase of a product as an office
> > rather
> > than a shop.
> 
> That does seem like a tempting solution. Apart from anything else it 
> gives the renderers a better chance of doing something plausible. So
> I 
> end up with:
> 
> office=lawyer
> lawyer=solicitor
> shop=estate_agent
> 
Its certainly not an unusual situation in small towns in England and
Wales either.

Phil



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Re: [Talk-GB] Fwd: [Talk-scotland] Estate Agent Solicitors

[Paul Oldham]

On 20/02/17 11:50, SK53 wrote:


A couple of other points:

  * I think office=lawyer is more widely used than UK specific terms
like solicitor.


Funnily enough I was just reading the wiki page on that very thing. So I 
should have


   office=lawyer
   lawyer=solicitor

As per https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:office%3Dlawyer


  * You could also do shop=estate_agent;office=lawyer too. Certainly
around Nottingham we use shop=estate_agent for walk-in high street
agents, and office=estate_agent for mainly commercial agents who are
usually not located in retail premises. Others regard anywhere that
does not allow immediate purchase of a product as an office rather
than a shop.


That does seem like a tempting solution. Apart from anything else it 
gives the renderers a better chance of doing something plausible. So I 
end up with:


   office=lawyer
   lawyer=solicitor
   shop=estate_agent

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Paul

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Re: [Talk-GB] Fwd: [Talk-scotland] Estate Agent Solicitors

[SK53]

Hi Paul,

The classic case of needing to use semicolons is Timpsons:
shop=shoe_repair;key_cutting. In this case the data consumer may need to
recognise the pattern (not necessarily parse the semi-colon). On a similar
basis I'd suggest office=solictor;estate_agent should be fine: it's not
that different from office=solictor_estate_agent after all.

Data consumers dealing with Scottish data would need to be able to handle
this: it may be worth documenting on the wiki.

A couple of other points:

   - I think office=lawyer is more widely used than UK specific terms like
   solicitor.
   - You could also do shop=estate_agent;office=lawyer too. Certainly
   around Nottingham we use shop=estate_agent for walk-in high street agents,
   and office=estate_agent for mainly commercial agents who are usually not
   located in retail premises. Others regard anywhere that does not allow
   immediate purchase of a product as an office rather than a shop.

Some estate agents may also act as agents for financial services companies.
I'm not sure anyone has tried to map such things, but they may be relevant
in more rural places.


Jerry





On 20 February 2017 at 11:26, Paul Oldham  wrote:

> I asked this question over on talk-scotl...@openstreetmap.org a couple of
> days ago but have had no answer so perhaps I could ask here?
>
> For those who don't know the issue in Scotland most (but not all) houses
> are sold by solicitors rather than estate agents, although we have those
> too.
>
> Paul
>
>  Forwarded Message 
> Subject: [Talk-scotland] Estate Agent Solicitors
> Date: Sat, 18 Feb 2017 18:14:48 +
> From: Paul Oldham 
> Organisation: The Hug
> To: talk-scotl...@openstreetmap.org
>
> Hi folks
>
> I suspect this may be a FAQ hereabout but it's not on the wiki and I did
> look very briefly towards the list archive but pipermail doesn't have built
> in search and my Google Fu wasn't strong enough to get anything out that
> way.
>
> Anyway I'd value some advice. I'm in the middle of getting our town's high
> street shops up to date as it's clearly a while since it was done and
> there's also lots of gaps.
>
> One thing that I'm puzzling over however is estate agent solicitors. Do I
> tag them as:
>
>office=solicitor
>office=estate_agent
>office=solicitor;estate_agent
>
> I was tempted by the latter but the wiki page on semi-colons
>
>http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Semi-colon_value_separator
>
> seems not to like semi-colons much. You on this list must have come across
> this issue before many times. Was there a consensus? If there is I'll add
> it to the wiki.
> --
> Paul
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[Talk-GB] Fwd: [Talk-scotland] Estate Agent Solicitors

[Paul Oldham]

I asked this question over on talk-scotl...@openstreetmap.org a couple 
of days ago but have had no answer so perhaps I could ask here?


For those who don't know the issue in Scotland most (but not all) houses 
are sold by solicitors rather than estate agents, although we have those 
too.


Paul

 Forwarded Message 
Subject: [Talk-scotland] Estate Agent Solicitors
Date: Sat, 18 Feb 2017 18:14:48 +
From: Paul Oldham 
Organisation: The Hug
To: talk-scotl...@openstreetmap.org

Hi folks

I suspect this may be a FAQ hereabout but it's not on the wiki and I did 
look very briefly towards the list archive but pipermail doesn't have 
built in search and my Google Fu wasn't strong enough to get anything 
out that way.


Anyway I'd value some advice. I'm in the middle of getting our town's 
high street shops up to date as it's clearly a while since it was done 
and there's also lots of gaps.


One thing that I'm puzzling over however is estate agent solicitors. Do 
I tag them as:


   office=solicitor
   office=estate_agent
   office=solicitor;estate_agent

I was tempted by the latter but the wiki page on semi-colons

   http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Semi-colon_value_separator

seems not to like semi-colons much. You on this list must have come 
across this issue before many times. Was there a consensus? If there is 
I'll add it to the wiki.

--
Paul

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