Re: [Talk-GB] Inaccurate Sea Boundary of England
I believe Holland has that honour. PHILLIP BARNETT SERVER MANAGER 200 GRAY'S INN ROAD LONDON WC1X 8XZ UNITED KINGDOM T +44 (0)20 7430 4474 F E phillip.barn...@itn.co.uk http://WWW.ITN.CO.UK P Please consider the environment. Do you really need to print this email? -Original Message- From: talk-gb-boun...@openstreetmap.org [mailto:talk-gb-boun...@openstreetmap.org] On Behalf Of Ed Avis Sent: 15 October 2009 11:02 To: talk-gb@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [Talk-GB] Inaccurate Sea Boundary of England Ed Loach e...@... writes: As only Sealand recognise Sealand and no UN member does (from the wiki article you quote), I can't see the claim that the sea boundary of England is wrong can be justified. Who would have expected an edit war in the English Channel? Anyway, are we having a mapping party out to it to map it? If so there is the possibility that Sealand might become the first nation to be fully mapped on OSM... -- Ed Avis e...@waniasset.com ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb Please Note: Any views or opinions are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Independent Television News Limited unless specifically stated. This email and any files attached are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to which they are addressed. If you have received this email in error, please notify postmas...@itn.co.uk Please note that to ensure regulatory compliance and for the protection of our clients and business, we may monitor and read messages sent to and from our systems. Thank You. ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
Re: [Talk-GB] Inaccurate Sea Boundary of England
2009/10/15 Ed Avis e...@waniasset.com: John Robert Peterson jrp@... writes: Don't you mean the French Channel? :PJR Good question. Names of seas and oceans aren't currently shown on the main OSM slippy map; are they tagged anywhere? Well, The Bristol Channel has got a node, and is tagged, Waterway=Bay. The wiki seams to suggest the Oceans should be tagged place=sea which does not seam quite right. http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Ocean I suspect we just need a standard way of tagging them and then to get the renders to start rendering them. Then we can add the Irish Sea. English Channel, Indian Ocean. we probably ought to have Cape Horn and the Cape of Good Hope named as well. Peter. ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
Re: [Talk-GB] Inaccurate Sea Boundary of England
Ed Loach e...@... writes: As only Sealand recognise Sealand and no UN member does (from the wiki article you quote), I can't see the claim that the sea boundary of England is wrong can be justified. Who would have expected an edit war in the English Channel? Anyway, are we having a mapping party out to it to map it? If so there is the possibility that Sealand might become the first nation to be fully mapped on OSM... -- Ed Avis e...@waniasset.com ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
Re: [Talk-GB] Inaccurate Sea Boundary of England
On 15/10/2009 11:02, Ed Avis wrote: Ed Loach e...@... writes: As only Sealand recognise Sealand and no UN member does (from the wiki article you quote), I can't see the claim that the sea boundary of England is wrong can be justified. Who would have expected an edit war in the English Channel? Anyway, are we having a mapping party out to it to map it? If so there is the possibility that Sealand might become the first nation to be fully mapped on OSM... It used to be on OSM a couple of years ago, but the node now seems to have been deleted. Originally it was absurd: it was marked as a country so it had this huge label on the map that gave it greater prominence than anywhere else for hundreds of miles. Having put some more realistic tags on it, it was fine, so I don't know why it went altogether. It isn't a nation just because the perverse individual who happens to live there claims it is, but it's reasonable enough to mark it as an ex-military installation of some kind or maybe even residential, but no, not a country. David ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
Re: [Talk-GB] Inaccurate Sea Boundary of England
It used to be on OSM a couple of years ago, but the node now seems to have been deleted. Still there as manmade=pier http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/node/25343935 Ed ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
Re: [Talk-GB] Inaccurate Sea Boundary of England
Ooops. I quoted the node. The node is also inside a way (area) tagged as man_made=pier http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/way/32720920 and the area also contains a node for a helipad Ed ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
Re: [Talk-GB] Inaccurate Sea Boundary of England
2009/10/15 Ed Avis e...@waniasset.com Ed Loach e...@... writes: As only Sealand recognise Sealand and no UN member does (from the wiki article you quote), I can't see the claim that the sea boundary of England is wrong can be justified. Who would have expected an edit war in the English Channel? snip Don't you mean the French Channel? :P JR ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
Re: [Talk-GB] Inaccurate Sea Boundary of England
John Robert Peterson jrp@... writes: Don't you mean the French Channel? :PJR Good question. Names of seas and oceans aren't currently shown on the main OSM slippy map; are they tagged anywhere? -- Ed Avis e...@waniasset.com ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
Re: [Talk-GB] Inaccurate Sea Boundary of England
Familiar with sealand... passing on to talk-gb Yours c. Steve On 14 Oct 2009, at 02:36, Paul wrote: Steve, First of all, what a great job you are doing. I know this may sound trivial to you, but Sealand is a a legal entity on a old WW2 platform 6 miles off the coast of Suffolk, England. They claim a sea boundary of 12 miles which conflicts with the UK boundary of 12 miles as shown on your map. I know Sealand is very small to put on your map, but it is there and should be on any map. More about Sealand at: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Principality_of_Sealand or http://www.sealandgov.org Keep up the good work. Paul ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb