Re: [Talk-GB] Inaccurate Sea Boundary of England

2009-10-16 Thread Barnett, Phillip
I believe Holland has that honour.




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Subject: Re: [Talk-GB] Inaccurate Sea Boundary of England

Ed Loach e...@... writes:

As only Sealand recognise Sealand and no
UN member does (from the wiki article you quote), I can't see the
claim that the sea boundary of England is wrong can be justified.

Who would have expected an edit war in the English Channel?

Anyway, are we having a mapping party out to it to map it?

If so there is the possibility that Sealand might become the first
nation to be fully mapped on OSM...

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Re: [Talk-GB] Inaccurate Sea Boundary of England

2009-10-16 Thread Peter Childs
2009/10/15 Ed Avis e...@waniasset.com:
 John Robert Peterson jrp@... writes:

Don't you mean the French Channel? :PJR

 Good question.  Names of seas and oceans aren't currently shown on the main
 OSM slippy map; are they tagged anywhere?


Well, The Bristol Channel has got a node, and is tagged, Waterway=Bay.

The wiki seams to suggest the Oceans should be tagged place=sea which
does not seam quite right.
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Ocean

I suspect we just need a standard way of tagging them and then to get
the renders to start rendering them. Then we can add the Irish
Sea. English Channel, Indian Ocean. we probably ought to have Cape
Horn and the Cape of Good Hope named as well.

Peter.

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Re: [Talk-GB] Inaccurate Sea Boundary of England

2009-10-15 Thread Ed Avis
Ed Loach e...@... writes:

As only Sealand recognise Sealand and no
UN member does (from the wiki article you quote), I can't see the
claim that the sea boundary of England is wrong can be justified.

Who would have expected an edit war in the English Channel?

Anyway, are we having a mapping party out to it to map it?

If so there is the possibility that Sealand might become the first
nation to be fully mapped on OSM...

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Ed Avis e...@waniasset.com


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Re: [Talk-GB] Inaccurate Sea Boundary of England

2009-10-15 Thread David Earl
On 15/10/2009 11:02, Ed Avis wrote:
 Ed Loach e...@... writes:
 
 As only Sealand recognise Sealand and no
 UN member does (from the wiki article you quote), I can't see the
 claim that the sea boundary of England is wrong can be justified.
 
 Who would have expected an edit war in the English Channel?
 
 Anyway, are we having a mapping party out to it to map it?
 
 If so there is the possibility that Sealand might become the first
 nation to be fully mapped on OSM...

It used to be on OSM a couple of years ago, but the node now seems to 
have been deleted. Originally it was absurd: it was marked as a country 
so it had this huge label on the map that gave it greater prominence 
than anywhere else for hundreds of miles. Having put some more realistic 
tags on it, it was fine, so I don't know why it went altogether.

It isn't a nation just because the perverse individual who happens to 
live there claims it is, but it's reasonable enough to mark it as an 
ex-military installation of some kind or maybe even residential, but no, 
not a country.

David


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Re: [Talk-GB] Inaccurate Sea Boundary of England

2009-10-15 Thread Ed Loach
 It used to be on OSM a couple of years ago, but the node now
 seems to
 have been deleted. 

Still there as manmade=pier
http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/node/25343935

Ed



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Re: [Talk-GB] Inaccurate Sea Boundary of England

2009-10-15 Thread Ed Loach
Ooops. I quoted the node. The node is also inside a way (area)
tagged as man_made=pier
http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/way/32720920
and the area also contains a node for a helipad

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Re: [Talk-GB] Inaccurate Sea Boundary of England

2009-10-15 Thread John Robert Peterson
2009/10/15 Ed Avis e...@waniasset.com

 Ed Loach e...@... writes:

 As only Sealand recognise Sealand and no
 UN member does (from the wiki article you quote), I can't see the
 claim that the sea boundary of England is wrong can be justified.

 Who would have expected an edit war in the English Channel?


snip

Don't you mean the French Channel? :P

JR
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Re: [Talk-GB] Inaccurate Sea Boundary of England

2009-10-15 Thread Ed Avis
John Robert Peterson jrp@... writes:

Don't you mean the French Channel? :PJR

Good question.  Names of seas and oceans aren't currently shown on the main
OSM slippy map; are they tagged anywhere?

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Re: [Talk-GB] Inaccurate Sea Boundary of England

2009-10-14 Thread SteveC
Familiar with sealand... passing on to talk-gb

Yours c.

Steve

On 14 Oct 2009, at 02:36, Paul wrote:
 Steve,
 First of all, what a great job you are doing.

 I know this may sound trivial to you, but Sealand is a a legal  
 entity on a old WW2 platform 6 miles off the coast of Suffolk,  
 England. They claim a sea boundary of 12 miles which conflicts with  
 the UK boundary of 12 miles as shown on your map.

 I know Sealand is very small to put on your map, but it is there and  
 should be on any map. More about Sealand at:
 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Principality_of_Sealand
 or
 http://www.sealandgov.org

 Keep up the good work.

 Paul



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