Re: [Talk-GB] Notes (Was: We're missing changes...)

[Dave F via Talk-GB]

I'm sorry to say, but I think that sounds patronising to both Note 
writers & OSM editing software.


Computers (that's what smart phones are) are used to enter the notes & 
map editing contributors need no knowledge of trig' & co-ords to draw 
dots & lines.


'encourage' includes teaching users how to use OSM software.

Cheers
DaveF



On 11/02/2019 15:14, ael via Talk-GB wrote:

On Mon, Feb 11, 2019 at 02:40:23PM +, Dave F via Talk-GB wrote:

I think we should be encouraging those who add notes to contribute directly
to the do-ocracy that is OSM. Quite a few notes take longer to type than
actually editing the problem they are highlighting.


I think that you underestimate the problem for someone who knows little
of computers, has no knowledge of coordinates and trigonomentry, and
has minimal understanding of maps.

I strongly suspect that most OSM contributers have far more education than 
average.

ael

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Re: [Talk-GB] Notes (Was: We're missing changes...)

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On Mon, Feb 11, 2019 at 02:40:23PM +, Dave F via Talk-GB wrote:
> I think we should be encouraging those who add notes to contribute directly
> to the do-ocracy that is OSM. Quite a few notes take longer to type than
> actually editing the problem they are highlighting.
> 

I think that you underestimate the problem for someone who knows little
of computers, has no knowledge of coordinates and trigonomentry, and
has minimal understanding of maps. 

I strongly suspect that most OSM contributers have far more education than 
average.

ael

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Re: [Talk-GB] Notes (Was: We're missing changes...)

[Dave F via Talk-GB]

I think we should be encouraging those who add notes to contribute 
directly to the do-ocracy that is OSM. Quite a few notes take longer to 
type than actually editing the problem they are highlighting.


If anybody (even anonymously) can add notes then users should be able to 
delete notes to discourage irrelevant notes such as 'The party's here!' 
(if a user resolves the note the URL still remains current).


A time base filtering of notes would be useful.

Cheers
DaveF

On 10/02/2019 12:11, Brian Prangle wrote:

Hi Jerry

You've spotted a major omission!  You can see  the road layout in 
Sentinel-2  Satellite Imagery ( if you've got good eyes - resolution 
is pretty poor). But you've raised a much wider question. I've always 
felt that we kind o f owe it to people who have bothered to alert us 
to errors via notes to fix them as quickly as we can ( and encourage 
them to enter more notes). However notes are undifferentiated as to 
what is major what is old etc which makes "patrolling" notes irksome. 
and so we fail to respond adequately I feel we need something a little 
more organised and the UK chapter has had a plan for a notes 
application  to 
help with this but just doesn't have the resources in terms of time to 
complete it. Any help appreciated from teh UK community. Other ideas 
might be to have a future Quarterly Project deveoted to clearing up 
notes, and to have designated  "patrol" areas where OSMers check for 
major errors and we have a an alert mechanism.

I'll contact  Amazon Logistics offlist to see if they can resolve this

Regards

Brian

On Sun, 10 Feb 2019 at 10:41, SK53 > wrote:


* A message on the forum points out that the roads immediately to
the east of Junction 36 have been substantially altered:
https://forum.openstreetmap.org/viewtopic.php?id=65350

* There is a note dating back over a year too:
https://www.openstreetmap.org/note/1221610#map=15/53.4976/-1.4580=N

Aerial imagery, GPS traces, and ImproveOSM do not seem to offer
any help. There are however traces on the Strava layers, but these
are no longer suitable for making edits directly.

I'm a bit surprised this hasn't been picked up the Amazon
Logistics editors as I would have thought this would be relevant
to them.

Jerry


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