Re: [Talk-GB] OSMF Special General Meeting

2014-11-26 Thread David Woolley

On 26/11/14 01:43, Dave F. wrote:


I'm pretty sure casting a vote via email isn't proxy.


The notice isn't a request to vote.  Requests for special meetings, and, 
I think any resolutions, from the members, are not binding unless there 
is support from a certain proportion of those with voting rights. What 
is being done here is attempting to demonstrate that level of support. 
The document mentioned is not a valid call for a meeting, it is rather a 
call for people to create a valid call for one.


At the stage at which the page was written, there was not even a 
requirement to notify all the members.


The 5% represents a compromise between avoiding a small clique causing 
disruption by continually calling meetings and the potential difficulty 
that a proposer would have in contacting all the members without help 
from the company, together with an allowance for the proportion of 
members who would vote an anything.


When the actual meeting notice is issued, it is a legal requirement that 
details of how to appoint a proxy are included in the meeting notice.


I am fairly sure the resolutions would affect current directors;  I 
think they would require an explicit clause to exclude them.


Although I am not a full member, so can't vote on the resolution, it 
seems to that the proponents should have provided some background 
information, e.g. details of other companies implementing similar rules, 
and the reasons they think they are necessary.


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Re: [Talk-GB] OSMF Special General Meeting

2014-11-26 Thread Andy Allan
On 26 November 2014 at 08:23, David Woolley for...@david-woolley.me.uk wrote:

 When the actual meeting notice is issued,

That notice has already been given - see
https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/osmf-talk/2014-November/003079.html

Thanks,
Andy

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Re: [Talk-GB] OSMF Special General Meeting

2014-11-26 Thread Dave F.
I propose an addendum to the resolution: We all go outside  do some 
mapping.


It appears that some people have lost sight of what OSM is for. This 
happens in many organisations when they get to a certain size  attract 
'organisers'; - people who are not interested in its primary objective 
but obsessed with the paraphernalia of instigating committees, meetings, 
agenda, minutes, points of order etc.


They're just members of the B ark.

As an example, watch this Channel 4 program from 1994, if you have the 
time: http://www.channel4.com/programmes/the-club/on-demand.
It's about a golf club's hierarchy where it turns out the chairman can't 
swing a club to save his life.


Dave F.



On 26/11/2014 08:23, David Woolley wrote:

On 26/11/14 01:43, Dave F. wrote:


I'm pretty sure casting a vote via email isn't proxy.


The notice isn't a request to vote.  Requests for special meetings, 
and, I think any resolutions, from the members, are not binding unless 
there is support from a certain proportion of those with voting 
rights. What is being done here is attempting to demonstrate that 
level of support. The document mentioned is not a valid call for a 
meeting, it is rather a call for people to create a valid call for one.


At the stage at which the page was written, there was not even a 
requirement to notify all the members.


The 5% represents a compromise between avoiding a small clique causing 
disruption by continually calling meetings and the potential 
difficulty that a proposer would have in contacting all the members 
without help from the company, together with an allowance for the 
proportion of members who would vote an anything.


When the actual meeting notice is issued, it is a legal requirement 
that details of how to appoint a proxy are included in the meeting 
notice.


I am fairly sure the resolutions would affect current directors; I 
think they would require an explicit clause to exclude them.


Although I am not a full member, so can't vote on the resolution, it 
seems to that the proponents should have provided some background 
information, e.g. details of other companies implementing similar 
rules, and the reasons they think they are necessary.


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[Talk-GB] OSMF Special General Meeting

2014-11-25 Thread Gervase Markham
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/OSMF_Members_Request_for_General_Meeting

It seems to me like this motion, if passed, would cause 3 members of the
board to have to resign (Henk, Oliver and Dermot), and mean that those
people plus Steve Coast and Mikel Maron could not stand again for at
least two years.

(Based on http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Foundation )

Is that about the size of it?

Is it a good thing?

Gerv


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